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Rainbowsrus
07-10-12, 10:04 AM
Wilma is dropping her litter right now, My earliest litter ever!!! Details later.

MrBD1980
07-10-12, 12:26 PM
Great! Congrats and fingers crossed all goes exactly as it should....people speak very highly of you guys!!!

Brian

Snakesitter
07-10-12, 08:15 PM
Awesome news and congrats, Dave! That year off for Wilma -- unplanned as it was because you thought you were going to sell her -- must have helped!!! :-)

alessia55
07-10-12, 08:16 PM
Congrats!! Is the litter still within "normal" arrival date range? Just wondering if it'll have any effect on the babies. Can't wait to see photos!!! :D

Rainbowsrus
07-12-12, 01:09 AM
14 babies and 7 slugs, here are some pics I took but just now uploaded....

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b237/rainbows-r-us/BRB/2012%20Babies/Wilma%20x%20Fred/WI_FR_20120710a.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b237/rainbows-r-us/BRB/2012%20Babies/Wilma%20x%20Fred/WI_FR_20120710b.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b237/rainbows-r-us/BRB/2012%20Babies/Wilma%20x%20Fred/WI_FR_20120710c.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b237/rainbows-r-us/BRB/2012%20Babies/Wilma%20x%20Fred/WI_FR_20120710d.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b237/rainbows-r-us/BRB/2012%20Babies/Wilma%20x%20Fred/WI_FR_20120710e.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b237/rainbows-r-us/BRB/2012%20Babies/Wilma%20x%20Fred/WI_FR_20120710f.jpg

Rainbowsrus
07-12-12, 01:10 AM
Congrats!! Is the litter still within "normal" arrival date range? Just wondering if it'll have any effect on the babies. Can't wait to see photos!!! :D


Plus or minus a week, even ten days is totally normal. This was a full term litter, no yolks.

marvelfreak
07-13-12, 06:24 PM
Congrats on all the cute babies. I think we need more pictures.

Wildside
07-13-12, 08:15 PM
Plus or minus a week, even ten days is totally normal. This was a full term litter, no yolks.

So yolks are a sign of a premature litter?

Rainbowsrus
07-13-12, 09:27 PM
So yolks are a sign of a premature litter?

Yes, babies born with little to no yolk left are considered full term, ones with larger yolks would be premature. Just like most living things, a little premature is survivable, a lot is not.

Wildside
07-14-12, 09:25 AM
Yes, babies born with little to no yolk left are considered full term, ones with larger yolks would be premature. Just like most living things, a little premature is survivable, a lot is not.

I am so glad I decided to join this site. I have learned so much in just the past week. I had a litter that was premature once, but I wasn't sure what happened to them. Can you or anybody tell me some of the factors that might cause a litter not to go full-term?

Rainbowsrus
07-14-12, 04:48 PM
Honestly I don't know for sure. Often premmie litters are slug heavy so that is clearly a factor but not always.

Austin
07-14-12, 06:13 PM
congrats man!!!!! I want I want I want!!!! haha.

Wildside
07-15-12, 03:29 PM
Honestly I don't know for sure. Often premmie litters are slug heavy so that is clearly a factor but not always.

The litter was extremely slug heavy, like as in 20 slugs and 30 live. Many of which had a very large yolk still attached. I knew there was something seriously wrong when they wouldn't slither out of their own membranes :( They had no muscle tone and were like picking up a piece of wet toilet paper. It was so very sad to watch each of them fight to try and live.

Drgnfly2265
07-15-12, 04:06 PM
That is awsome! The little ones are so cute.

Snakesitter
07-16-12, 05:00 PM
As Dave said, the odds are stacked heavily against really premature babies.

Causes are unknown, but can include a sick or stressed mother (I had one drop a litter early last year as she fought to save her own life [warning graphic pictures] http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/epicrates/88117-dark-side.html and http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/epicrates/88117-dark-side.html).

If it does happen, care opinions vary, but the best advice seems to be keep them warm and moist, with little to no handling and see what happens. After a few days many tie off the remaining yoke.

Wildside
07-16-12, 05:33 PM
As Dave said, the odds are stacked heavily against really premature babies.

Causes are unknown, but can include a sick or stressed mother (I had one drop a litter early last year as she fought to save her own life [warning graphic pictures] http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/epicrates/88117-dark-side.html and http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/epicrates/88117-dark-side.html).

If it does happen, care opinions vary, but the best advice seems to be keep them warm and moist, with little to no handling and see what happens. After a few days many tie off the remaining yoke.

I believe what happened with the litter had something to do with a power outage during a winter storm. It was very early on in gestation so I started to think everything would be ok as her belly grew. As for my female, she was fine, seemed to be in perfect condition throughout and afterwards. I allowed her to rest last year and look forward to trying again this year.

Strutter769
07-16-12, 07:45 PM
Congrats Dave! That little guy in the 2nd pic, judging by his pale color, will probably be a holdback, or a payment plan! :-)

Rainbowsrus
07-17-12, 07:36 AM
Congrats Dave! That little guy in the 2nd pic, judging by his pale color, will probably be a holdback, or a payment plan! :-)

I see you're getting the "eye" Those with paler color quite often color up a lot at first shed. The paler color being an indicator of reduced overall melanin.

BTW, still had not shed as of last night.....

Snakesitter
07-18-12, 02:50 PM
Good of you to give her a year off! And best of luck with the pairing...