Decision's, Decision's, Decision's

[GarterPython]

I have been trying to find out what type of snake I want to get next and I was starting to lean toward another corn snake. Then I thought how about we bump it up and try a ball python. Then I started to wonder and wonder, I think I ahve been on this forum and have learned enough about snakes to bump it up more than that. Now I am thinking a Green Tree Python. They look awesome and don't get to big (not entirely sure on there size so if someone could tell me how long a male Green Tree Python is that would be good) You guys have known me all throughout my time here and you know how I take care of my animals. Do you think I am ready to move from a corn snake all the way to a Green Tree Python. I really like challenges and I want to take this one. Just wanted to know what your peoples thoughts were?

[snake man12]

At most a male green tree could get 5 or 6 feet

[GarterPython]

Ok thanks that is a perfect size

[Aaron_S]

If it's what you want then you'll take better care of it then if it's just a "stepping stone" animal.

Green trees are kind of expensive and I'd recommend a seriously well started one to a first timer. Probably 6+ months old as then it's well established and search out good breeders. I don't really know of any in Canada. I'm sure there's some.

Lastly, I'd just fully take the time to consider that it can die fairly quickly and you're hard earned money went down the drain.

For a teen, I'd consider something with less care requirements purely based on I was a teen and know how life CAN go, not necessarily the way it WILL go.

[alessia55]

Here's my thinking... you only got your corn snake, five weeks ago I think? So you might want to wait a little longer before getting another snake. GTPs are beautiful- no doubt about it. But in general, GTPs aren't good for handling. They are more the type of snake you enjoy from a distance... what we call "display snakes"... that you take care of, but don't really handle. Another corn snake or a ball python would be great if you want to be able to take out and hold your snake; or even a king snake... California king snakes are beautiful and come in so many patterns. It also depends on your budget; depending on how much you can spend, a GTP might not be the best option. If I remember correctly, you owe your parents some $$ from Houdini's enclosure. Another snake will need another enclosure, another heat source, more hides, and another thermostat. A GTP will need a tall enclosure for perching. Corns, kings, and balls will be fine in an enclosure similar to Houdini's. It's tempting, since GTPs are really beautiful, but there's a lot to consider :)

[GarterPython]

That is my one problem, money. I am willing to spend the money but if it does end up dieing that is alot of money. If you have any other suggestions of more difficult snakes that are not as much money than that would be great. I am totally willing to ssave up for another snake and that is why I am trying to figure out how much money and stuff I will need. I still won't be getting it for a while but I like to think ahead.

[alessia55]

What's your size limit? and what's your budget?

[Aaron_S]

I won't make any suggestions. I always found just browsing forums and seeing pictures of cool snakes I'd find something that caught my eye to research and see if it was for me.

I was also lucky and worked in pet stores so I got my hands on lots to see what I liked.

[GarterPython]

My budget is probably about 200$ max for just the snake. For size limit my parents would like it to stay from 3-5 foot range. (mabye 6 feet)

[alessia55]

My budget is probably about 200$ max for just the snake. For size limit my parents would like it to stay from 3-5 foot range. (mabye 6 feet)

Hmm... here are a few suggestions then:
another corn snake
king snake (california, brooks, goini, etc)
ball python
rosy boa
hog island boa
milk snake
bull snake

[Snakefood]

besides, have you seen the FANGS on GTP's??????

Yikes, that changed my mind to Emerald Tree Boa's REALLY QUICKLY!!

My suggestion is to stay with Cornsnakes (or other colubrid) or BP's for now.

[Aaron_S]

besides, have you seen the FANGS on GTP's??????

Yikes, that changed my mind to Emerald Tree Boa's REALLY QUICKLY!!

My suggestion is to stay with Cornsnakes (or other colubrid) or BP's for now.

You think Emmy's DON'T have similar teeth? Have you SEEN the size of an Emmy's head or hell their overall weight compared to a gtp? You'll have more damage from the emmy by pure power and weight behind their bite and the same size teeth as the gtp.

[Terranaut]

Do you know anything about motorcycles? A corn is a 250 a carpet or boa is a 650 r a gtp is getting into r1 territory as far as care and experience is concerned. Undetstand?

[Snakefood]

Aaron

I have only seen pictures of both, and the fangs on the GTP looks far more evil than those on the Emerald!!

But having never seen either in person, I can't say for sure, all I know, is when I saw the fangs on the GTP, I thought to myself, "well I sure don't want THAT to miss at feeding time!!"

Keep in mind that although I have tackled Emu's for vaccinations and tagging, have had my hand ripped open by an injured dog, my arm rent to pieces by an injured and peed off cat, and a Macaw who decided he DID not want me to trim his wings, I still cringe at snakes with actual fangs......call me crazy!!

[GarterPython]

Its to much money for me. I think I am going to go back to my original thinking, a Irian Jaya Carpet Python.

[Snakefood]

Ask the experts, but if I remember correctly, one of the types of carpets have a head wobble like a stargazer corn or spider ball

[bushsnake]

besides, have you seen the FANGS on GTP's??????

Yikes, that changed my mind to Emerald Tree Boa's REALLY QUICKLY!!

My suggestion is to stay with Cornsnakes (or other colubrid) or BP's for now.
you kidding? emerald tree boas are named after their teeth...

[Snakefood]

really??? EMERALD TREE BOA...... I see NOTHING about teeth in that name!!!

[Ivalynfyre]

Emerald tree boa - Corallus caninus

[Snakefood]

Ah...see I did not Know that!! Good info Ivalynfyre!!

The fangs still don't look as long in the pics as the GTP's did!!

[Ivalynfyre]

I try to pop in and -attempt- to be smart every so often...

To me the teeth on the emerald's are a lot bigger.. I'd rather be bitten by the GTP.

[red ink]

My budget is probably about 200$ max for just the snake. For size limit my parents would like it to stay from 3-5 foot range. (mabye 6 feet)

Antaresias... cant go wrong with them.

[Snakefood]

I try to pop in and -attempt- to be smart every so often...

To me the teeth on the emerald's are a lot bigger.. I'd rather be bitten by the GTP.

LOL, after my vet tech years, and how many times I've been bitten, scratched, punctured and kicked, I would rather not be bitten at all.....other than from my corns, that's like getting an itty bitty paper cut!!

[Terranaut]

Ask the experts, but if I remember correctly, one of the types of carpets have a head wobble like a stargazer corn or spider ball

A small percentage of carpets with the jag gene have head wobble. Not all of any one kind. Not by a long shot.


To the op. get the carpet. You will not be sorry. Best snakes for pets imho.

[snake man12]

Dumerils boa all the way:]

[exwizard]

Its to much money for me. I think I am going to go back to my original thinking, a Irian Jaya Carpet Python.

I think that is your best best IMO.

[exwizard]

Dumerils boa all the way:]I like Dums as well but they have the potential of getting bigger than IJs.

[snake man12]

I like Dums as well but they have the potential of getting bigger than IJs.

Especially a female

[exwizard]

Don't I know it!

[snake man12]

Don't I know it!

LOL I guess so:)

[exwizard]

Yeah ok a "Black Betty" scenario is rare but that potential still exists with Dums. I repeat what I said before and I do own both species. In your case, GarterPython, an IJ Carpet is probably the best choice.

[UwabamiReptiles]

My first snake was a male IJ carpet, I would recommend a carpet all day everyday. As long as you have the space. They are great snakes.

[Snakefood]

My first snake was a male IJ carpet, I would recommend a carpet all day everyday. As long as you have the space. They are great snakes.

That beautiful red tailed green rat you have as an avatar would be a great second snake for garter too!!

[GarterPython]

Yea I will stick to a carpet.

[Terranaut]

You will be happy. I love how many carpet owners we have here.

[exwizard]

You will be happy. I love how many carpet owners we have here.I second this.

[GarterPython]

I am still trying to think and think and think. I did want a Carpet Python at first and I still kind of want one. I am still gong to be watching reptiles canada because if a really cheap green tree python comes up I might have to snatch it. Anyway I was thinking that I also really like rat snakes and kings snakes. The one animal that I have liked for a long time is a chameleon also. I know some people say they are hard to keep but a while back I did my research and as long as you have all the supplies they are actually not that hard to maintain. Lastly and this is where the advice comes in. I love boa's. The only thing is they can't be any longer than mabye 5 and half feet, 6 feet. Also I would really like it if they weren't really heavily bodied. I know one option is a BRB but that would be really hard to maintain the humidity here in Alberta. Any suggestion's would be nice. If there is litterly no resonably priced boas that are within what I said just tell me because I need to know. Thanks for the help everybody. The reason I try and figure this stuff out early is because I like to do A LOT of research. I am not one of those people who do research for one week and then go out and buy it. Even though I do admit that if a good deal came up on say a GTP (because I resently fell in love with them) I would defitly jump on it. Not all of this is for sure yet either because my parents have a say in it but I know that now that I have a corn snake and they figured out that snakes aren't evil then they will be ok. And to alessia I don't owe that money to my parents anymore. I am now saving up.

[GarterPython]

Anybody got any ideas? I'm trying to think of a boa but they all seem to be really heavily bodied. If it is impossible in my price range to get one just tell me because I would like to figure this stuff out.

[alessia55]

How about a rosy boa?

[GarterPython]

I do like rosy boas but I think they are pretty hard to find in Canada. Plus I kind of want something with the more classic boa look. Rosy boa definitily is another choice.

[Hillsberry]

What about a Kenyan sand boa? My first python was my Jungle carpet python. She is my best snakes. You can never go wrong with a carpet python. :) Carpet Pythons will help you get ready for a Green Tree Python later on.

[red ink]

Resistance is futile....

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn214/Red-Ink-Buldogs/bug/P1020043.jpg

[marvelfreak]

A male BRB would work as they don't get over 5 to 6 feet. As for the humidity it's not as hard as some make it sound to keep up. As babies just keep it in a tote and it's super easy to keep the humidity up.

[Terranaut]

Seriously get a carpet. Its everything your looking for in a snake. Great looking, docile, not thick and not expensive.
Not sure if you have seen this?? Its my adult male. Almost 6' but not huge.
Can you see yourself with one of these?
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[GarterPython]

I really like both. Terranaut is that an Irian Jay because if I get a carpet I would want an Irian Jaya. Also what about a Vera Cruz Boa. I saw them on another thread. They seem to stay small but I don't know how hard it is to find one in Canada and how much they are? Still got lots of time to think about it. My 2 main choices right now are either a Irian Jaya Carpet Python or some type of boa (if I can find one that is small enough and that is easy enough to find in Canada)

[snake man12]

Dumerils boa, if you get a male they will probably only get 5 and a half feet and their beautiful.

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[Terranaut]

I really like both. Terranaut is that an Irian Jay because if I get a carpet I would want an Irian Jaya. Also what about a Vera Cruz Boa. I saw them on another thread. They seem to stay small but I don't know how hard it is to find one in Canada and how much they are? Still got lots of time to think about it. My 2 main choices right now are either a Irian Jaya Carpet Python or some type of boa (if I can find one that is small enough and that is easy enough to find in Canada)

He is a jungle not an IJ. Resistance is futile. Get the carpet!!

[snake man12]

Or you could pick up a hog island boa. They are a kind of dwarf boa

[GarterPython]

I know it is narrowed down to either a Hog Island Boa, Irian Jaya Carpet Python or a Chameleon.

[snake man12]

If I were you I would pick the hog just because I like them better. But pick what you want and you will be happy , good luck=]=]=]=]

[marvelfreak]

I know it is narrowed down to either a Hog Island Boa, Irian Jaya Carpet Python or a Chameleon.
You could just do like i would do and get one of each.

[GarterPython]

^haha so funny. I probably will one day but it is a matter of what I want to get now. I don't have the money to buy all 3. I know you are probably kidding but I would love too just don't have the money to get all three right now.

[marvelfreak]

^haha so funny. I probably will one day but it is a matter of what I want to get now. I don't have the money to buy all 3. I know you are probably kidding but I would love too just don't have the money to get all three right now.
Yeah i was just joking.:)

[GarterPython]

I am on here too much. I know you all to well.

[snake man12]

Well tell us when you have made up your mind

[GarterPython]

That will probably be still quite a bit. I take a long time to make up my mind. I think that hog islands are kind of eliminated because of how big they are girth wise. Some my 2 (mabye 3 options) are a chameleon or a Irian Jaya Carpet Python (or a milk snake/king snake or something. I know the care for all of the animals except for the Carpet. I will have to start doing some research. And if anyone is woundering when I will be getting this animal the answer is, when I get the money and when I get the approval from my parents. My dad already said that I could get another one if I take good care of this one and I have the money to get another one.

[exwizard]

That will probably be still quite a bit. I take a long time to make up my mind. I think that hog islands are kind of eliminated because of how big they are girth wise. Some my 2 (mabye 3 options) are a chameleon or a Irian Jaya Carpet Python (or a milk snake/king snake or something. I know the care for all of the animals except for the Carpet. Whatever you decide, you will be happy with just because you put so much thought into it. I will have to start doing some research. And if anyone is woundering when I will be getting this animal the answer is, when I get the money and when I get the approval from my parents. My dad already said that I could get another one if I take good care of this one and I have the money to get another one. This will happen soon enough, judging from the way you approached all of this all along. I have total confidence in whatever choice you make because of previously stated reasons and I know you will be happy with this choice. :)

[GarterPython]

^Thank you. I made some bad choices with animals before and I don't want to do it again.