Garter snake.

[RandyRhoads]

Found this little fella yesterday. I was beginning to think they had all disappeared completely. Can anyone give me the scientific name?

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d86/randy666rhoads/DSCN1041.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d86/randy666rhoads/DSCN1042.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d86/randy666rhoads/DSCN1043.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d86/randy666rhoads/DSCN1048.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d86/randy666rhoads/DSCN1049.jpg

[reptile65]

Nice looking garter! I'm not 100% sure, but it kinda looks like a Northwestern garter (Thamnophis ordinoides) to me.

[infernalis]

Nice looking garter! I'm not 100% sure, but it kinda looks like a Northwestern garter (Thamnophis ordinoides) to me.

You are absolutely correct.:D

[bushsnake]

im afraid not...its Thamnophis atratus hydrophilus


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[marvelfreak]

Cool Garter.

[RandyRhoads]

Gonna go with Wayne and reptile65...

[bushsnake]

thats hydrophilus buddy, trust me i know what im talking about....look at a field guide

[Dehlida]

Wrongo sir. It's a N.W.

[infernalis]

thats hydrophilus buddy, trust me i know what im talking about....look at a field guide


After studying photos of NW (Ordinoides) & T. Atratus Hydrophilus closely, the facial structure of the example photos indicate that Joe (Bushsnake) is correct here.

[Dehlida]

It's still looking N.W. to me, even vagrans looking, maybe an intergrade of some sort, more than hydrophilus. What are you 2 seeing here that I'm not?

[bushsnake]

ive had alot of ordinoides...maybe the pictures will help

[Pareeeee]

Nice garter! They are declining here - places I used to find them have been abandoned...not sure if it's territory destruction or pollution... :(

PS: Anyone know if it's legal to keep wild caught garters in Ontario, Canada? Or do you need to get a licence of some kind?