Ontario Kijiji Free Boa

[Raan]

This is not my ad, but I found it and I always like to share a good ad find. I dont have any friends interested so I thought I would post on here. I would probably act quick anything free im sure goes quick. Its been posted for 7 hours so plenty of time to act on it.

Adult Redtail Bowa - Ontario Pets For Sale - Kijiji Ontario Canada. (http://ontario.kijiji.ca/c-pets-other-pets-for-sale-Adult-Redtail-Bowa-W0QQAdIdZ380723760)

[CDN_Blood]

The thing with this is that they're illegal...

[youngster]

Haha, bowa ;)

[CDN_Blood]

That spelling is being used because local by-law officials create alerts for keywords to crack-down on offenders keeping illegal animals. If they posted 'boa', dudes in uniforms would be knocking at their door and they wouldn't be smiling ;)

[youngster]

Haha no way! That's awesome.

[CDN_Blood]

They don't all do it, but it does happen. Keeping illegals and being smart about it is one thing, but if you're going to advertise that you have them and provide your address and contact info like that, well, you kinda deserve what comes next. Unfortunately it impacts the sensible and responsible keepers out there too, so use your head, people ;)

[Raan]

Really just depends on where you live if they are illegal

[Terranaut]

Legal in Kitchener. Wish I could do it but no more room :(

[Jay]

Legal in Kitchener. Wish I could do it but no more room :(

I thought they were restricted... Snakes over 6.5' that is.
I don't have time to look up the bylaws. If you could link it to me that would be great. I have a friend in Kitchener who just lost his collection of Bcc's

[Raan]

408.2.9 Kitchener bylaws for prohibited animals

http://code.municipalworld.com/kitchener/408.pdf

really only counts if you are right downtown or in suburbs.

because for where I live they have prohibited all farm animals but everyone around the town has farm animals, and it only matters if you let your neighbours know


waterloo looks a bit different, anything over 3m is prohibited so 9.84 ft

http://www.city.waterloo.on.ca/Portals/57ad7180-c5e7-49f5-b282-c6475cdb7ee7/LIBRARY_BYLAWS_documents/Animal_Control_By-law_No_09_047.pdf

[Terranaut]

Not prohibited here. Sold at all the local pet stores too. The above link is all you need.
Hope your friend can get it.

[CDN_Blood]

Well, they're not *specifically* prohibited as in mentioned by name, but the catch is that they will be considered to attain an adult length of over 2 metres, so you can count them out, really.

On that same note, I wouldn't sit out where anyone can see you with a Carpet python, either because they'll also fall under that category :(

[Jay]

Not prohibited here. Sold at all the local pet stores too. The above link is all you need.
Hope your friend can get it.

I thought you would have an updated link that's the same one they shoved in his face. He exact defense was he bought it at a pet store, that didn't fly. For some reason they are able to sell them?

[CDN_Blood]

Yeah, that "I bought it in a pet shop" will never work. It'll get the owners of the shop in hot water, but it won't save the buyer's butt.

There are some really funky by-laws out there. For instance, here in Fat City you can't own or sell anything over 2M, but you can display them. Now, logic would dictate that if an 8 foot boa was on display somewhere, that it's gotta be owned by somebody. If by-law asks who owns it and nobody pipes-up to claim that it's theirs, they take it away and they won't be looking for a home for it; it'll be euthanized.

I think the most tricky laws in Canada can be found in Québec. They don't specifically name very many animals at all as being prohibited, but instead leave it up to the attending officer's discretion as to whether or not the animals in question is 'dangerous' or not. If they're having a bad day or they don't know anything about a 5 foot snake, you can be quite sure it'll be deemed dangerous and that gives that officer the authority to destroy the animal on the spot. It's a case of absolute unquestionable authority, yet for some reason the vast majority of folks living in QC think what they have is legal because it's not specifically listed in the Prohibited Animals section of their legislature and didn't bother to keep reading the rest of the by-law provisions.

The moral here is *always* read your city/town's *full* ordinances regarding Pets & Animals. Leave no stone unturned and don't consider yourself in the know until you've read the entire thing. Also of note is that these laws can change without so much as a notice, so it's a wise thing to check back regularly to make sure you're up to date :)

[Terranaut]

I thought you would have an updated link that's the same one they shoved in his face. He exact defense was he bought it at a pet store, that didn't fly. For some reason they are able to sell them?

So your friends snakes were siezed ?
Gonna have to call my local humain society and ask some qustions.

[CDN_Blood]

So your friends snakes were siezed ?
Gonna have to call my local humain society and ask some qustions.

Do that from a pay phone, hunh! It's City Hall you need to talk to :)

[Jay]

It's was his landlord who called in the complaint. They dad no choice to fallow up.

[Terranaut]

I just spent 10 min on the phone with the Humane Society who is both the people you have to register your snakes with and who enforces the related bylaws. If you register your snakes before any complaints are made they will not remove your snake. But a complaint for a non registered snake = seizure. The woman I spoke with was very snake savy and knew the answers to my questions right away. In Kitchener you can legaly own a registered boa were her exact words. She advised you even register corn snakes to avoid any legal issues of any kind. Which I thought was funny.

[Terranaut]

Do that from a pay phone, hunh! It's City Hall you need to talk to :)

I called from my cell and asked about purchasing a boa from a local store that sells them. She seemed quite safe telling me to buy it then register it with her.
She even went so far as to tell me if its registered and they change the law we would be grandfathered in and could even sell iur snake localy with the registration if we wanted. She almost sounded like a herper her self.

[Jay]

That is awesome info, thanks.

[CDN_Blood]

Good job on that call, and I'm glad you got someone who actually knew her stuff ;)

When I registered mine years ago, I registered them all (yes, even my Corn Snake, lol). To be honest, I actually registered a few I didn't have yet while I was at it because I did have designs on them in the future, so when you do register yours, it might be wise to add a fictitious mate for the odd snake you have now, just in case. Oh, and don't forget...you did *not* hear that from me <polishes halo> :D

[Rogue628]

Interesting laws. I still think one of the most messed up ones are in Louisiana. Any (non venomous) snake that will reach 10' or more (although all boa constrictors are listed), you must have a permit for each animal plus you can always be inspected to make sure you have proper housing required by the state. However, you don't have to get a permit until the animal reaches the mandatory length. It does nothing to stop someone from getting a snake that can reach and exceed 10' and letting it go before reaching the mandatory length. IMHO, if you have to get permits for your animals, you should be able to before or right after purchasing one...not wait until it gets to a possible uncontrollable length for someone who has no experience with bigger animals.