PDA

View Full Version : Scaleless snakes


jaleely
05-02-12, 09:05 PM
I just started looking into them. I found this website that was pretty informative, without being too in-depth. Take a look, and let's start a discussion!

Scaleless Texas Ratsnakes - Notes and a photographic reference. (http://www.ratsnakezone.com/ratsnake-information/112.html)

What are your thoughts? I think they're pretty cool. It is kind of weird to see the snakes without scales, but I'd totally own one!

I was looking a little more and this website contradicts the first and says the scaleless snakes lack keratin.

Soft epidermis of a scaleless snake ... [Eur J Histochem. 2007 Apr-Jun] - PubMed - NCBI (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17664165)

Here are some interesting random photos of scaleless normally scaled animals:

SAReptiles • View topic - Scale less Bitis arietans! (http://www.sareptiles.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=18897)

Bearded Dragons and other Creatures - Dachiu's Ruby & Upcoming Leatherback / Silkback Project (scales, skin, care, husbandry and temperature information) (http://www.dachiu.com/beardeddragons/silkback.html)

http://www.australianaddiction.com/Spain_ScalelessRattler.jpg

Derma Ball? - CaptiveBred Reptile Forums, Reptile Classified, Forum (http://www.captivebredreptileforums.co.uk/ball-royal-pythons/19412-derma-ball.html)

BarelyBreathing
05-02-12, 09:10 PM
I'm pretty interested in them. I like the look.

jaleely
05-02-12, 10:43 PM
I do too : )

red ink
05-02-12, 10:49 PM
Not a fan... they look like they would feel like a pinky mouse.

Having said that the only scaleless reps we have here are Death Adders and I'm not so keen to have a feel and test my theory.

Trollbie
05-02-12, 10:50 PM
I like the ratsnake!

Strutter769
05-02-12, 11:03 PM
Mixed feelings really. I think it really pushes the limits of "genetic creativity," for lack of a better term. On the other hand, I like things outside the norm. (Not Norm66. Lol)

BarelyBreathing
05-02-12, 11:22 PM
Mixed feelings really. I think it really pushes the limits of "genetic creativity," for lack of a better term. On the other hand, I like things outside the norm. (Not Norm66. Lol)


Well I certainly hope you're not thinking INSIDE the Norm66. Anatomy is gross. :D

Strutter769
05-02-12, 11:27 PM
Anatomy is gross. :D

You've been looking at the wrong anatomies. :smug:

BarelyBreathing
05-02-12, 11:32 PM
You've been looking at the wrong anatomies. :smug:


I admit, my mind went straight to the digestive tract with that post, but seriously, the human body is SO GROSS! Think about it: Feet, finger nails, arm pits, elbows, ears....

Trollbie
05-02-12, 11:38 PM
I admit, my mind went straight to the digestive tract with that post, but seriously, the human body is SO GROSS! Think about it: Feet, finger nails, arm pits, elbows, ears....

You're concerned with those? I'll go straight to the real weird ones.

Butthole and genitals

Strutter769
05-02-12, 11:41 PM
Honestly, I am not a huge fan of feet, at all. But even they can be sexy on some women. I'm perfectly fine with all the other parts of a woman you mentioned (when groomed properly, lol) I may be French, but..... I draw the line at body hair. Lol

Strutter769
05-02-12, 11:44 PM
You're concerned with those? I'll go straight to the real weird ones.

Butthole and genitals

That's a whoooole 'nother thread! :D

Trollbie
05-02-12, 11:46 PM
Honestly, I am not a huge fan of feet, at all. But even they can be sexy on some women. I'm perfectly fine with all the other parts of a woman you mentioned (when groomed properly, lol) I may be French, but..... I draw the line at body hair. Lol

People who get grossed out by feet have told me I have pretty feet lol. I think mine are gross but only because I go barefoot or in flip flops so they're always dirty :D

Strutter769
05-03-12, 12:05 AM
People who get grossed out by feet have told me I have pretty feet :D

I believe every word of that. :smug:

Trollbie
05-03-12, 12:07 AM
I believe every word of that. :smug:

It's strange. lol

Norm66
05-03-12, 05:19 AM
How'd I get dragged into a thread about scaleless snakes? LOL.

I don't know much about them myself. They look neat but that's all I know.

Aaron_S
05-03-12, 08:06 AM
BHB breeds and I believe does or will be in the next year so scaleless cornsnakes. They look pretty cool.

Will0W783
05-03-12, 08:27 AM
Ick, feet are gross. I don't like feet at all....and they usually smell. LOL.


As for the scaleless snakes, I think the ratsnakes are cute, and the silkback beardies are awesome...but I don't really care for the scaleless rattler. One of the things that I love most about rattlesnakes are the heavily keeled scales and the supraocular ridge scale that makes them look like they are glaring at you.

alessia55
05-03-12, 08:30 AM
I always make it a point to touch the scaleless snakes at reptile expos if there are any. The feel of it is really, really strange.

Also, I have pretty feet too.

Will0W783
05-03-12, 08:35 AM
I held a scaleless Texas ratsnake once...it was bizarre but kind of soft and warm. It wasn't unpleasant...just weird. They are neat though. :)

jaleely
05-03-12, 10:02 PM
I want to feel one! I found it interesting they were found in the wild like this.

I have ugly feet, i think. they are also large! My cousin told me i had "sausage toes" lol
they look good in heels though...but what girl's doesn't? Wish they were comfortable.

Xanafein
05-03-12, 10:12 PM
I came into this thread to look at cool snakes, I came out of this thread thinking about work :|


Thanks for bringing up Feet >.>

alessia55
05-03-12, 10:29 PM
Some scaleless colubrids I saw an an expo a while ago:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v651/alessia55/IMG_8535.jpg

BarelyBreathing
05-03-12, 10:33 PM
I want the gray!

Trollbie
05-03-12, 10:36 PM
I want the white one!

alessia55
05-03-12, 10:52 PM
I want the orange one :D
If I remember correctly, these were all over $1,000 each

jaleely
05-04-12, 10:09 PM
The more i look them up, the more i like them. I think their little wrinkles are soo cute! Like, little old people snakes! hehe
I will probably never have one, and i disagree with the 6th layer of breeding lines they did to get some of them (jeez 6 interbreedings?) but they *are* hecka cute!