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Sno-x Snakes
04-20-12, 04:29 PM
Hi, new here. I looked through for a bit and couldn't find an answer, so hopefully I'm not bugging people.

I just got my first Carpet, a pure coastal jag sibling. Has anyone heard of the jag siblings having the neuro issues the jags do? Not that I'm seeing anything, just wondering about possible breeding later on down the line. Would breeding her to a jag have any more chances of the neuro issues in the clutch than normal?

She's only 8 months, and wasn't really bought as a breeder to be, but just wondering.

Here a picture from the breeder, just got her yesterday and haven't taken any of my own yet, she's too much of a wiggle worm, not nippy at all, just fast.

Lankyrob
04-20-12, 04:32 PM
From memory jag siblings seem to be ok, am sure someone more knowledgable will be along soon to confirm or discredit this tho :)

marvelfreak
04-20-12, 04:47 PM
I just got my first Carpet, a pure coastal jag sibling. Has anyone heard of the jag siblings having the neuro issues the jags do?

Would breeding her to a jag have any more chances of the neuro issues in the clutch than normal?


Siblings don't have the Nero issues that Jags do.

No the odds don't increase.

Sno-x Snakes
04-20-12, 04:52 PM
Thanks, good to know.

nicks75
04-20-12, 05:29 PM
Good looking coastal, looks you got it from Anthoney Capanetto, definitely a top notch animal coming from him.

Sno-x Snakes
04-20-12, 06:04 PM
Yep, glad to hear I picked good. She's a sweetheart so far, makes it real hard not to let her settle in before we really start handling her.

red ink
04-20-12, 06:27 PM
If she came from a "pure" coastal jag to coastal breeding. You don't have to call her a sibling as there's no other Morelia in the mix, therefore it makes her a pure coastal.

She's a nice looking snake and no, neuro is not present in non Jag gene carrying specimens.

Sno-x Snakes
04-20-12, 08:30 PM
This is her lineage as far as I know - "Sire- Pure Coastal Jaguar - Kerry King Line
Dam- Pure Coastal - VPI Line. These Jaguars and their non-Jaguar siblings were produced by a male coastal Jaguar produced by Kerry King in 2008, and a female VPI line coastal produced in 2006"

Sire and dam are both very white and black, the jag hatchlings are very light and black, the jag siblings are more her coloring. It will be interesting to see her color changes with each shed, other snakes I've had/have(Burm, Ball, and corn) pretty much stayed the same.

shaunyboy
04-20-12, 10:02 PM
If she came from a "pure" coastal jag to coastal breeding. You don't have to call her a sibling as there's no other Morelia in the mix, therefore it makes her a pure coastal.

She's a nice looking snake and no, neuro is not present in non Jag gene carrying specimens.

^^^^^
i agree with this 100%



she is a very nice looking coastal

i really like her pattern

breeding her to a jag,will NOT increase the chance of neurological issues in the hatchlings

i personally would NOT get too hung up on the neuro issues in jags,imo its only a SMALL percentage of jags, that show signs of neuro issues

over on a world wide,very respected,morelia dedicated forum,a thread was made by a well respected keeper,asking forum members.....

of all the jags they had produced,owned,seen in the flesh,etc,how many of the jags showed neuro issues

the morelia keepers who took part in the thread,came to the conclusion that.....

it was only a small percentage of the jags that they had personal contact with, that showed signs of neuro issues ,the percentage being roughly, 5% to 10%

imo,its worth asking about and looking for,any neurological issues when buying a jaguar

that said,i would NOT worry about a snake that is showing NO signs of issues,as plenty jaguars from the early days of the morph,are still showing NO signs of neuro issues

re breeding
there seems to be NO set pattern,as to which hatchlings have neuro issues,and which don't

1.you can take a jag with " NO " neuro issues and it can produce hatchlings " WITH" mild to severe neuro issues

2.you can take a jag " WITH " neuro issues and it can produce hatchlings with "NO " issues

there has been little if any,scientific research done,as to the cause of this problem,with the jaguar mutation

it is said amongst morelia keepers,that it may be a birth defect,where part of the brain is missing/undeveloped,the part which controls balance,cordination,etc

imo the jaguar,pattern and colour mutation,has done wonders for carpet python genetics,and is also responsible for bringing a lot of new carpet keepers to the hobby

not to mention it has aided in,producing some of the best looking snakes out there,theres NOT much imo that beats a top class,diamond jungle jaguar for looks...!!

great looking coastal mate,i look forward to updates

cheers shaun

Trent
04-20-12, 11:54 PM
Nice carpet!

MoreliAddict
04-21-12, 11:57 AM
Good-looking coastal!