put down payment on some snakes

[theapexgerman]

I'm so excited I just got done sending my down payment for 1.1 etreme hypo/ultra-light hypo tangerines hondurans from doug he owns serpentine ill be getting them in september some time once they hatch now comes the hard part waiting for so many months

[Jlassiter]

Doug has some nice ones.....I didn't know he took money before snakes were hatched.....LOL

[theapexgerman]

10 percent down payment so I payed 84 bucks I never spent more than 200 bucks on an snake now I'm spending 400 and something with shipping pretty pricy but worth it

[Skumbo]

pics! I need to get some tangerines eventually.. :P

[theapexgerman]

pics! I need to get some tangerines eventually.. :P
These arnt regular tangerines these are bad*** tangerines here's his website so you can look at the pics Home - Serpentine Specialties (http://serpentinespecialties.webs.com/)

[Jlassiter]

LOL...I was just messin with you...I know Doug Mong......Good guy!

[theapexgerman]

Oh lol he seems pretty good and from what others told me he produces some stunning tangerines and from what I saw pretty good ones to but I have to wait such an long time

[Jlassiter]

His Extreme Hypos are the best.....Or Megas or whatever they call them now.....lol

[theapexgerman]

Extreme I belive but I've seen pics of other and dougs are so much more shine to them but it be in september before I can own them that's the sad part

[Jlassiter]

Yea...they gotta hatch, shed and feed first....LOL

[theapexgerman]

Yea but he said it be mid september when hell start sending out orders guess lot of peoples put money down lol

[Jlassiter]

Or.....you are getting some from the second clutches laid typically in June or July.....
Plus September is better weather to ship in than in mid Summer in Phoenix.....LOL

[theapexgerman]

Yea in mid summer it can get up 2 119 degrees(f) and sometimes even more and even in september it get 101 normaly lol so anytime after march to october is always going to bad

[Jlassiter]

I live were it reaches 100F all the time but we have 80% or more all the time too....LOL
Much hotter it seems than Arizona.....I worked out there and it was 110 with 20% humidity and wasn't as bad as home.....LOL

But hot is hot regardless.......hahahahahahahahah

[theapexgerman]

I'm use to the heat last year it got 129f you could fry an egg on the street who needs an skillet lol

[Trollbie]

Good luck man... I couldn't do it. 2-3 weeks is bad enough for me. I've been dreaming about my baby BRB every freaking night... *facepalm*

But congrats! You're finally gonna have one!

[theapexgerman]

I got 6 months lol but be worth it did you check out the website look at some of the hondurans he gots there crazy

[Trollbie]

I got 6 months lol but be worth it did you check out the website look at some of the hondurans he gots there crazy

I did. But no more snakes for me!

[theapexgerman]

Lol I wish I could get them sooner but oh well most I ever spent on 2 snakes lol

[Trollbie]

you gonna breed them?

[theapexgerman]

Maybe but take a few years for them to get mature enough I'm am breeding my albino male nelson to and T+ female albino nelson babies go for like 400 bucks lol

[Trollbie]

Maybe but take a few years for them to get mature enough I'm am breeding my albino male nelson to and T+ female albino nelson babies go for like 400 bucks lol

weeeeeee! I'm excited for you

[theapexgerman]

Thanks but it be next year tho but I may get only 2 or 3 t+ babies and rest regular albino nelson that I can sell for like 40 bucks

[Trollbie]

Thanks but it be next year tho but I may get only 2 or 3 t+ babies and rest regular albino nelson that I can sell for like 40 bucks

Maybe I'll get one then :P

[theapexgerman]

Sure atleast shipping won't be that much since your only an state away from me lol

[Caylan]

That Ultra is really something, right on! How'd you end up with a T+ and where are the pic's?!

[theapexgerman]

The pet shop I've been going to for years has one it his baby and ill get pics this weekend when I go and pick up my feeders sje like 4 or 5 years old so I decided to to breed it whith my male albino nelson he said I could use her lol

[Trollbie]

Sure atleast shipping won't be that much since your only an state away from me lol

I'll come and get it. I've never been to Phoenix outside the airport lol

[theapexgerman]

Lol yea atleast you will get tp pick out of the ones I get cept the T+ if you want to pay 400 bucks lol

[Trollbie]

No discount for a friend? :(

[theapexgerman]

Lol if I get a few T+ I would but I will most likely get 2 or 3 imma going to keep and male and a female for my self so I can breed them that's even if I don't mess up incubating the eggs

[Trollbie]

I have faith in you!

[theapexgerman]

Yea imma going to try and find another male t+ albino nelson some were maybe before next year so I will have 2 T+ and all babies will be T+

[theapexgerman]

I have faith in you!
Why thank ya I hope I do good

[a153fish]

Hey congrats on your soon to be Milk snakes! I know Doug, and his extremes are very sweet! Well, worth the wait. I raed you are gonna mate a male albino Nelson to a T-positive female? Is that correct? Unless your male is het for T-positive, I believe you will get all normal looking babies, which would then be double hets for T-pos, and normal amel albino as well.

[theapexgerman]

T+ is co domant as I told so it will show in babies I got a chance one or two will be an t+ so well will see I want me some t+ they cost so damm much

[a153fish]

T+ is co domant as I told so it will show in babies I got a chance one or two will be an t+ so well will see I want me some t+ they cost so damm much

Cool! I didn't know it was co=dominant? Those are still fairly new to the hobby so, they very well, could be. I know most T-pos are not co dominant with the T-negs in other snakes. I think I do remember shannon Brown saying that they were doing some strange things when he bred them? Good luck, that would be cool!

[theapexgerman]

I'm haveing doug give me a lot of help shannon got 3 out of her clutch and she breeding the same as what I am so maybe ill get 3 or more I want an female and male to keep back for my self

[Jlassiter]

Yep...the T+ is allelic with an amel (t-)...... but not co dominant with normals....so I would not callnthe gene co dominant.....

[theapexgerman]

I was just using what I was told I'm new to this gentic stuff quite confusing but I've been told I will get some T+ so I'm hoping I get and male and a female cause I really don't want to spend 400 bucks for one

[Jlassiter]

Yes you will get some T+ if you only if you breed T+ x T- or T+ x T+........but if you breed a T+ x normal you will get normal hets.....

[theapexgerman]

Ok so my male albino nelson breed to an T+ female would produce some T+ right

[5starserpents]

We have a pair of the extremes (one of the few if not the only pair in Canada) they should be big enough to go next year and I can't wait! There's already a HUGE waiting list of people that want to be on "the list" when babies do come. They are GORGEOUS, you will absolutely love them!

[theapexgerman]

Wow nice post pics lol I can't wait till mine hatch lol

[TremTricolors]

Congrats man! You will not be disappointed with Doug's snakes. Glad you could get some from him. Those extreme hondo's kick a** too.

[theapexgerman]

Congrats man! You will not be disappointed with Doug's snakes. Glad you could get some from him. Those extreme hondo's kick a** too.
Thanks but sad thing is I got to wait 6 months or so but there so pretty I couldn't afford now to get one or in this case two lol

[Trollbie]

I got my moneyz today!!!! That means that I'll have baby BRB on Monday the latest :D

The wait is almost over for me :P

[theapexgerman]

Wow nice glad ya getting your BRB POST LOTS OF PICS

[Trollbie]

Yessir!!!!!!

[theapexgerman]

Lol I can't stop thinking bout the snakes I put my downpayment down on I want them so bad

[Trollbie]

Lol I can't stop thinking bout the snakes I put my downpayment down on I want them so bad

They're not even born yet, right?

[theapexgerman]

Nope not til september lol and then I have to wait a few weeks after there born before ill get them its really hard to wait even for me

[Trollbie]

Nope not til september lol and then I have to wait a few weeks after there born before ill get them its really hard to wait even for me

I couldn't wait that long. I'm terrible.

[theapexgerman]

I have patience but 6 months is kinda pushing it lol

[Trollbie]

I have patience but 6 months is kinda pushing it lol

I'll make sure to make it seem even longer :P

[theapexgerman]

Eh but atleast ill be only one in town that has one from doug he said not to many orders are comming from arizona

[Trollbie]

How big do they get?

[theapexgerman]

Hondurans I've seen 6 foot 4-6 foot is bout right they get really huge and are one of the meanist milks you can get they are born bitters lol but if you hold them most calm down when there older

[Trollbie]

Hondurans I've seen 6 foot 4-6 foot is bout right they get really huge and are one of the meanist milks you can get they are born bitters lol but if you hold them most calm down when there older

How about girth?

[theapexgerman]

A little bigger than most a little bigger than my nelson

[Trollbie]

A little bigger than most a little bigger than my nelson

How big is your nelson lol

[theapexgerman]

There pics of him on here lol I don't know I never measure his girth