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Terranaut
03-28-12, 07:47 AM
So my gravid(or so we are pretty sure) JCP is twisting herself into knots and letting out big exhales. Is the egg alignment behavior? Any carpet breeders see this a couple days before eggs? Strangest snake behavior I have seen yet ;)
lady_bug87
03-28-12, 07:59 AM
Shaun would know!
Terranaut
03-28-12, 08:13 AM
Well she looks to me like she is getting ready to drop eggs. My fingers are crossed!!
lady_bug87
03-28-12, 09:01 AM
That would be awesome what does all mighty google say?
shaunyboy
03-28-12, 09:21 AM
So my gravid(or so we are pretty sure) JCP is twisting herself into knots and letting out big exhales. Is the egg alignment behavior? Any carpet breeders see this a couple days before eggs? Strangest snake behavior I have seen yet ;)
twisting herself in knots is a good indication she's gravid mate
when did she last shed ? (pre lay shed)
egg deposition can be anything from 19 to 35 days after pre lay shed,average being 24.5 days (taken from a sample size of 30 clutches,barker and barker,pythons of the world volume 1 australia)
has she also been basking a lot more recently ?
cheers shaun
shaunyboy
03-28-12, 10:07 AM
forgot to say.....
re basking
if she has a branch near her basking spot,she will be hanging off it,in all sorts of wierd positions.
heating up certain parts of her body,1 bit at a time,or wrapped up in a tight knot,as close to the basking spot as she can get
i'll try and get some pic's of the female,from this years diamond jungle jaguar breeding project
dads a jungle jag,mum is a diamond jungle
heres them back in january 2012
http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq17/spilota01/Tarzan%20and%20unknown/P1010441.jpg
http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq17/spilota01/Tarzan%20and%20unknown/P1010435.jpg
http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq17/spilota01/Tarzan%20and%20unknown/P1010432.jpg
i'll do my best to get pictures,of her wierd basking positions for you mate
all the best shaun
Terranaut
03-28-12, 01:03 PM
She is dropping eggs now. Whooooottt!!
I have to go to work. I will pull them an put them in the incubator when I get home.
So excited!!
CK SandBoas
03-28-12, 01:04 PM
Congratulations!!!:D
Terranaut
03-28-12, 01:20 PM
Can I leave them to 10 hrs?? Or would I be best to skip work and move them when she is done??
Terranaut
03-28-12, 02:14 PM
So I decided to stay home from work cough cough.
She even ditched the slug. Lol. Not looking forward to pulling her off this clutch. Time to suit up in my hockey equipment I guess.
The kids just got home and lost their minds. Happy day.
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j9/terranaut0/photo-160.jpg
shaunyboy
03-28-12, 02:26 PM
congratulations mate
the eggs i can see her coiled on look healthy
the one outside her coil looks like it may be a slug though,with it not being attatched to the clutch,i'd still pop it into the incubator and keep a close eye on it.
are you incubating them ?
or is she doing a maternal incubation ?
you tend to get a higher hatch rate from sticking them into an incubator
i'm really chuffed for you mate:D
all the best shaun
MoreliAddict
03-28-12, 02:27 PM
@shaunyboy what came out of this pairing?:
http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq17/spilota01/Tarzan%20and%20unknown/P1010441.jpg
those are two great looking carpets!
shaunyboy
03-28-12, 02:31 PM
So I decided to stay home from work cough cough.
She even ditched the slug. Lol. Not looking forward to pulling her off this clutch. Time to suit up in my hockey equipment I guess.
The kids just got home and lost their minds. Happy day.
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j9/terranaut0/photo-160.jpg
just take a firm grip of her head,as you would while doing a mouth inspection,then get your wife to gentley unravel her off the eggs
pop her in a tub/tank while you get the eggs into the incubator
don't forget to mark the top of the eggs,so you know which way is up
looking forward to pic's of them in the incubator
cheers shaun
Terranaut
03-28-12, 02:32 PM
congratulations mate
the eggs i can see her coiled on look healthy
the one outside her coil looks like it may be a slug though,with it not being attatched to the clutch,i'd still pop it into the incubator and keep a close eye on it.
are you incubating them ?
or is she doing a maternal incubation ?
you tend to get a higher hatch rate from sticking them into an incubator
i'm really chuffed for you mate:D
all the best shaun
Thanks!! We are incubating them. I just need to make sure she is done first.
The one off to the side is a slug for sure.
What a cool experience watching this. Nature is awesome!!
shaunyboy
03-28-12, 02:34 PM
@shaunyboy what came out of this pairing?:
http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq17/spilota01/Tarzan%20and%20unknown/P1010441.jpg
those are two great looking carpets!
i'm still waiting on her pre lay shed mate
she dulled down and her white looked rather dirty a few days ago
she has since went back to her crisp clean white self
so i'm hoping for a shed any day now,followed with some nice white eggs
will keep you updated
i'm hoping a black and white diamond jungle jaguar will pop out an egg (i can dream:D)
cheers shaun
alessia55
03-28-12, 03:06 PM
Congrats Terranaut!!! Can't wait to hear how many are in there :D
youngster
03-28-12, 03:12 PM
Congrats!
Too bad you're in Canada, I would love a lil hatchling of yours.
Terranaut
03-28-12, 04:00 PM
Well. Bad news. No I did not get bit removing the eggs but it looks like only 5 are fertile. She laid 21. The 5 have red veins inside and the others are yellowish outside,1/2 the size and no veins :(. This is her first clutch and mine too. My temps were spot on so I have no idea what went wrong. Oh well. We will be having 5 I guess.
millertime89
03-28-12, 08:08 PM
could just be that she's a first time mom. Incubate them all just in case. Congrats on the first clutch! Can't wait to see babies in 2 months!
Terranaut
03-28-12, 08:46 PM
Yup I put them all in there just the same.
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