what's up with the "grams" thing??

[Ikester1981]

How come all snake weight reference is in grams. I could understand baby snakes/lizards. but after they reach 1lb in weight they should be referred to as such. I.e. my snake weighs 5lbs 7oz this gives me such a BETTER idea of the size of the snake. not that gram non sense 893 grams??? wtf is that?? 3lbs 12oz. OH I totally understand now!!:hmm:

[theapexgerman]

I really don't get it either but I would like to know how many grams my snake ways see if he's over weight

[Terranaut]

Because its way more accurate. Metric is way better in every way. Not sure why anyone would still be using imperial to be honnest.

[Caylan]

Time should be converted to metric I always though, Imperial is ********!!

[millertime89]

Because its way more accurate. Metric is way better in every way. Not sure why anyone would still be using imperial to be honnest.

Time should be converted to metric I always though, Imperial is ********!!

werd... but its what we're stuck with here in the States. I use metric as often as I can, but there's plenty of times where I wish I could, but simply can't.

edit: if you do it enough you can convert things over pretty easily in your head if you're decent with math. 1000g = 1 kg = 2.2 lbs. So an 800g snake is roughly 1.75lb. My phone says 1.76. Throw me a number and I bet I can get close enough for most people's purposes.

[CDN_Blood]

I think the U.S. is the last country in the world using Imperial measurement. I've never understood Imperial - it's just so random that it's confusing.

Metric is so easy and so sensible as everything is based on units of 10. Maybe one fine day the States will get up to speed with the rest of the world, which by the way will be measured in Kilometres :)

[Norm66]

Maybe one fine day the States will get up to speed with the rest of the world, which by the way will be measured in Kilometres :)

Actually speed will be measured in kph or kilometers per hour. A lilometer is a measurement of distance. ;)

When I was a kid we learned both Imperial and metric because, at the time, the US was supposedly getting ready to go metric. Somehow it never happened and I'm not sure. I'm more comfortable with Imperial just from it being everywhere but I agree that metric makes more sense.

[shaunyboy]

I think the U.S. is the last country in the world using Imperial measurement. I've never understood Imperial - it's just so random that it's confusing.

Metric is so easy and so sensible as everything is based on units of 10. Maybe one fine day the States will get up to speed with the rest of the world, which by the way will be measured in Kilometres :)


over here you buy a litre of milk or a pint of beer

go figure

we use both systems,split randomly depending on what the item is

cheers shaun

[Norm66]

^^^ kilometer, not lilometer. LOL


Shaun, that's weird but I bet you don't really even notice it. A litre of beer just wouldn't sound right.

[Lankyrob]

I much prefer imperial measurements, my dad was a craftsman and taught me as a kid so all my education was in imperial and then i went to school and we were taught metric!! I transfer most metric measurements back to imperial in my head to make it make sense to me :)

[KORBIN5895]

Imperial FTW!

[alessia55]

I am much better at calculating distance in meters or kilometers than in feet and yards. And it makes way more sense to have 1000g = 1kg than to have 16oz = 1lb. I use grams to weigh my snakes and I can tell people roughly what it is in pounds/ounces if they ask (like Kyle does).

[Bradyloach]

Oh Canada our ways are better than the us! We have free drugs and all the health care we need! Lalalala

[SpOoKy]

We have free drugs and all the health care we need! Lalalala

How do you figure???

[Bradyloach]

Haha well I'm under my dads work insurance still so I get free everything! Well I have to pay 10% of it. :(

[jarich]

Ha! Too funny Brady.

The UK system is really weird, youre right Shaun. Sometimes its imperial, sometimes metric, sometimes just plain old and odd. I had the hardest time with stones, what the hell is a stone?! 14.5 pounds, huh? I kept waiting for someone to come up with a cubit for measurements!

[KORBIN5895]

Haha well I'm under my dads work insurance still so I get free everything! Well I have to pay 10% of it. :(

That's called health benefits. It is also available in the states.

[Bradyloach]

Yah but Canada's are better!!! We have poutines!

[SpOoKy]

Yah but Canada's are better!!! We have poutines!

I made a sweet potato poutine at work this weekend... It kicked some serious butt!

[Bradyloach]

Wow! Bring some up to Sudbury :) your not that far! Come up I'll show you my sav :) and don't forget the poutine!

[Skumbo]

How come all snake weight reference is in grams. I could understand baby snakes/lizards. but after they reach 1lb in weight they should be referred to as such. I.e. my snake weighs 5lbs 7oz this gives me such a BETTER idea of the size of the snake. not that gram non sense 893 grams??? wtf is that?? 3lbs 12oz. OH I totally understand now!!:hmm:

Fine. 0.893 KG

Better?

Also, most people are measuring these snakes with gram scales which you know.. measure in grams.

1 lb = 453.59237 grams. Doesn't convert well does it?

the beauty of metric is you dont have to remember conversions.. 1000g = 1 kg. Kilo = thousand, gram = gram. Kilogram "thousandgram"

Maybe its the science major in me, but I cant stand imperial. That said, i use it every day for weights in the gym because everyone else doesnt get kilograms..

"Hey guys i squatted 150 kilos today!"

"oh thats nice"

"thats 330 lbs"

"WHAT?!"

[lady_bug87]

over here you buy a litre of milk or a pint of beer

go figure

we use both systems,split randomly depending on what the item is

cheers shaun

same here.. I never thought of it like that before

[KORBIN5895]

Yah but Canada's are better!!! We have poutines!

But we have chicken and dumplings. We also have pistols. So Canada loses.

[SpOoKy]

But we have chicken and dumplings. We also have pistols. So Canada loses.

yeah but we have Timmies so :p

[Bradyloach]

BAM! Have you ever had a timmies coffee, it's like Jesus came down and is serving you a beverage :)

[lady_bug87]

But we have chicken and dumplings. We also have pistols. So Canada loses.

Pfft I live here... instant win.

[Gungirl]

Now now children.. both places fail. We both have ridiculous laws and to many morons.

[SpOoKy]

Now now children.. both places fail. We both have ridiculous laws and to many morons.

LOL, well put Kat :) and oh how very true.

[CK SandBoas]

Now now children.. both places fail. We both have ridiculous laws and to many morons.

Could not have said it better myself!:)

[KORBIN5895]

BAM! Have you ever had a timmies coffee, it's like Jesus came down and is serving you a beverage :)

Whoa. So Jesus himself comes downs and serves you that crap? Timmy's coffee is terrible. I drink it because of convenience but MC Donald's is way better. I really like coffee so I am a pretty good judge.

Pfft I live here... instant win.

Canada also has me so that nulifies your argument.

Now now children.. both places fail. We both have ridiculous laws and to many morons.

But we can kill our morons in the states. States is back on top. Not to mention Canada totally brown noses because they need our protection if things ever go south.

[lady_bug87]

haha 'Our"

you live here Kevin :p you need it too!!!

[Snakefood]

Haha well I'm under my dads work insurance still so I get free everything! Well I have to pay 10% of it. :(

Hence, not free!! We pay $110 in basic medical for a family of 3, and an additional $120/mo in extended heath care benefits!!

our medical system is not free. The difference between our health system ans that of the USA is that it is madatory by law that every Canadaian be covered by at least basic heath care, so you'll never be turned away from a hospital or DR, but eventually the gov't will catch up with the ammount they believe you owe!!

[Snakefood]

Whoa. So Jesus himself comes downs and serves you that crap? Timmy's coffee is terrible. I drink it because of convenience but MC Donald's is way better. I really like coffee so I am a pretty good judge.



Canada also has me so that nulifies your argument.



But we can kill our morons in the states. States is back on top. Not to mention Canada totally brown noses because they need our protection if things ever go south.

watch your mouth there buddy!! we don't brown nose, we are freindly, courtious and respectfull. Which is why the whole world loves CANADA

But I do agree with you on the Timmy's thing, good samdwiches, good soup, awful coffee!!

[theapexgerman]

I really don't like metric to much I perfer imperial if I'm building something

[shaunyboy]

^^^ kilometer, not lilometer. LOL


Shaun, that's weird but I bet you don't really even notice it. A litre of beer just wouldn't sound right.

i buy my petrol or diesel for my car,by the litre at the garage

but my car engine oil,i buy in gallons

at 45 years old the meshing of the 2 systems still fry my brain norm

i only know the parts of each system i require to live

i do not know the complete imperial or metric system

just bits of both

crazy stuff my friend:yes:

cheers shaun

[shaunyboy]

watch your mouth there buddy!! we don't brown nose, we are freindly, courtious and respectfull. Which is why the whole world loves CANADA

But I do agree with you on the Timmy's thing, good samdwiches, good soup, awful coffee!!

is that justin bieber dude not canadian ;):laugh:

he's a nippy little **** (nippy = does your head in,nips your nut) nut = head

cheers shaun:D

[SpOoKy]

is that justin bieber dude not canadian

he's a nippy little **** (nippy = does your head in,nips your nut) nut = head

we take no responsibility for Bieber.

[shaunyboy]

we take no responsibility for Bieber.


someone bloody well should :laugh:

if he was scottish,we'd have imprisoned him at the very least by now

thats if he just didn't somehow,mysteriously dissapear:shocked::D

cheers shaun

[SpOoKy]

Pfft, we just gave him to America :p

[millertime89]

Pfft, we just gave him to America :p

thanks for that...

[hellosugaree]

How come all snake weight reference is in grams. I could understand baby snakes/lizards. but after they reach 1lb in weight they should be referred to as such. I.e. my snake weighs 5lbs 7oz this gives me such a BETTER idea of the size of the snake. not that gram non sense 893 grams??? wtf is that?? 3lbs 12oz. OH I totally understand now!!:hmm:

Welcome to the world dude. The metric system makes sense, and pretty much the entire world uses it. What makes more sense? 1000 milligrams per gram, 1000 grams per kilogram. If something weighs 548 grams, it weights about .548 kilograms, or just over half a kilogram. With metric measurements, all you have to do is move the decimal around to do calculations. It makes way more sense and pretty much the entire world except the US uses it.

Oh, another fun thing. You can convert liquid volume to weight in the metric system too without a calculator. 1 milliliter (0.001 liters) of water weighs 1 gram. 1 liter of water weighs 1 kg. How much does a quarter cup of water weigh? What about 3.68 cups of water plus 2 tablespoons.. how much does that weigh? 3.628 liters of water weighs 3.628 kilograms, or 3628 grams, or 3628000 milligrams.

Let me not even get into measurements of length... Ok maybe I will. Which makes more sense to you? 1.26 or 63/50? Without doing any math, you can easily see 1.26 is about 1 and a quarter. Why do we have 12 inches in a foot? How many inches in 6.748 feet? Can you do it without a calculator? What about metric? How many centimeters in 6.748 meters? 674.8... what about millimeters? 6748 mm in 6.748 meters. Ever see "standard" measurements in the store on that are like 7/153 inch. What the heck does that mean? Can you put a mental image on what that looks like? 0.84 is a lot easier to picture. Sure you can use decimals instead of fractions to represent inches and feet, but you can't easily convert those between the two.

Go pick up a liter of water (approx 1 quart) and feel how much it weighs... That's 1000 grams, or 1 kilogram. Use that as a point of reference and life will be easier. 1000 grams (1 kilogram) is about 2.2 pounds if you insist on thinking in pounds. By the way, how many ounces is 2.2 pounds?

Maybe we should start measuring things in lengths of my finger, or weight of the apple I ate this morning. My snake weighs 1 apple and 3 figs, and is about 3 middle fingers and half of a pinky finger long. This is essentially what inches and feet are. Makes a whole lot more sense does it?

[Snakefood]

we take no responsibility for Bieber.

I second that!!

And who should take responsibility for him being what and who he is, hmmmmm, how about his parents and himself (remember self-accauntability??, ahh, the good old days)

[SpOoKy]

No problem :)

[millertime89]

Welcome to the world dude. The metric system makes sense, and pretty much the entire world uses it. What makes more sense? 1000 milligrams per gram, 1000 grams per kilogram. If something weighs 548 grams, it weights about .548 kilograms, or just over half a kilogram. With metric measurements, all you have to do is move the decimal around to do calculations. It makes way more sense and pretty much the entire world except the US uses it.

Oh, another fun thing. You can convert liquid volume to weight in the metric system too without a calculator. 1 milliliter (0.001 liters) of water weighs 1 gram. 1 liter of water weighs 1 kg. How much does a quarter cup of water weigh? What about 3.68 cups of water plus 2 tablespoons.. how much does that weigh? 3.628 liters of water weighs 3.628 kilograms, or 3628 grams, or 3628000 milligrams.

Let me not even get into measurements of length... Ok maybe I will. Which makes more sense to you? 1.26 or 63/50? Without doing any math, you can easily see 1.26 is about 1 and a quarter. Why do we have 12 inches in a foot? How many inches in 6.748 feet? Can you do it without a calculator? What about metric? How many centimeters in 6.748 meters? 674.8... what about millimeters? 6748 mm in 6.748 meters. Ever see "standard" measurements in the store on that are like 7/153 inch. What the heck does that mean? Can you put a mental image on what that looks like? 0.84 is a lot easier to picture. Sure you can use decimals instead of fractions to represent inches and feet, but you can't easily convert those between the two.

Go pick up a liter of water (approx 1 quart) and feel how much it weighs... That's 1000 grams, or 1 kilogram. Use that as a point of reference and life will be easier. 1000 grams (1 kilogram) is about 2.2 pounds if you insist on thinking in pounds. By the way, how many ounces is 2.2 pounds?

Maybe we should start measuring things in lengths of my finger, or weight of the apple I ate this morning. My snake weighs 1 apple and 3 figs, and is about 3 middle fingers and half of a pinky finger long. This is essentially what inches and feet are. Makes a whole lot more sense does it?

6.748 ft = roughly 81 inches
2.2 lbs = roughly 35.2 ounces

Ok, that's not fair, I've been doing the conversions in my head for years.

[exwizard]

yeah well we were forced to use grams to measure our rats weight since thats all snake people use for this purpose, nvm the fact that since we use the rodentpro standard and thats how they measure them, well... enough said.

[millertime89]

How I got the exact answer for 2.2 is easy. (2x16) + (2x1.6) = 32 + 3.2 = 35.2. That one was really too easy. 6.748 ft was a bit harder, but its close enough to 6.75 I did (6x12) + (.75x12) = 72 + 9 = 81. In reality its something like 80.9...

[KORBIN5895]

I would like to point out that a liter of liquid mercury weighs slightly more than a liter of water. Which then throws the whole stupid idea that all one liter containers of liquid weighs one kilo.

[millertime89]

I would like to point out that a liter of liquid mercury weighs slightly more than a liter of water. Which then throws the whole stupid idea that all one liter containers of liquid weighs one kilo.

I must've missed this part... Liquid density plays a huge part in the weight of the liter.

[exwizard]

I would like to point out that a liter of liquid mercury weighs slightly more than a liter of water. Which then throws the whole stupid idea that all one liter containers of liquid weighs one kilo.

Thats funny :)

Frankly I like the American style of measurement better. Metric may be easier for the rest of the world but our system is what Im used to and that makes it easier for me and at 49 yrs old Im not in any mood to change. For me school zones will always be 25 mph and freeway speed limits will always be 65 and 70 mph (unless your in Des Moines, then its 55 and 60 mph). Anyway, 5' 11" and 165 lbs makes much more sense to me than 152 cm and 75 kg but hey thats just me.

[millertime89]

don't get me wrong there's a degree of comfort and familiarity with standard units, but if the country as a whole were to make the switch to metric I would have no problem with doing so. But I'm perfectly happy with the established system.

[exwizard]

don't get me wrong there's a degree of comfort and familiarity with standard units, but if the country as a whole were to make the switch to metric I would have no problem with doing so. But I'm perfectly happy with the established system.

I dont see us ever doing that. To too many people, its a national sovereignty thing, just one more thing that slips us further into worldwide socialism.

[theapexgerman]

Same here metric would just take some time to get use to

[hellosugaree]

I would like to point out that a liter of liquid mercury weighs slightly more than a liter of water. Which then throws the whole stupid idea that all one liter containers of liquid weighs one kilo.

This is for water, and approximated for things close to water. I did at first say liquid when I should have explicitly stated water, although I did when I started talking about it. Obviously with mercury this is not the case. When was the last time you needed to measure mercury anyway?

FYI, a gram was originally defined as the mass of 1 cubic centimeter (1 milliliter) of water at 4 degrees (Celsius). It is by definition, not by coincidence that a liter of water weighs 1kg.

[hellosugaree]

How I got the exact answer for 2.2 is easy. (2x16) + (2x1.6) = 32 + 3.2 = 35.2. That one was really too easy. 6.748 ft was a bit harder, but its close enough to 6.75 I did (6x12) + (.75x12) = 72 + 9 = 81. In reality its something like 80.9...

You still had to do math though. You would be surprised how many people can't even add numbers without a calculator. :(

[exwizard]

You dont have to do any math at all if the main system is what youve used all the time. 1 lb = 1 lb, 1' = 1' and 1 mi = 1 mi. ;)

[Skumbo]

*tempted to show his chemistry exam study guide for friday*

No?

Vapor equations anyone?

Advanced stoichiometry?

Heh? Heh?!

[hellosugaree]

You dont have to do any math at all if the main system is what youve used all the time. 1 lb = 1 lb, 1' = 1' and 1 mi = 1 mi. ;)

OK, Great. Then without doing any math you can tell me exactly how many cubic inches are in 7.473728 cubic feet, right?

I can tell you how many cubic millimeters are in 7.473728 cubic meters by moving the decimal place.

Don't need any math because you're used to it right. So go ahead. I'm waiting for your exact numeric value without any math. :)

[exwizard]

Idk and Idc :).

[theapexgerman]

Idk and Idc :).
Lol you made my day I'm getting a good laugh

[exwizard]

See I dont go with what the majority opinion is on anything for the sake of following that majority opinion. I go with what seems right to me and it doesnt matter what other people think about anything so arguing what is easier or better falls on deaf ears. Call it stubborn or even stupid, Idc. Thats just the way I am.

[red ink]

I use the metric system as I prefer it to the imperial... Being in OZ the whole country uses it anyway lol.

Scientific equations are also based on the metric system which makes it easier SI units of measurements..

As to the question why snakes are refered to in grams... simple the rest of the world uses it and being the interweb, we are all from different places. Metric being the predominant unit of measurements in the world, snakes = metric.

[exwizard]

I use the metric system as I prefer it to the imperial... Being in OZ the whole country uses it anyway lol.

Scientific equations are also based on the metric system which makes it easier SI units of measurements..

Im sure you do and I think thats great

As to the question why snakes are refered to in grams... simple the rest of the world uses it and being the interweb, we are all from different places. Metric being the predominant unit of measurements in the world, snakes = metric.

Ok I can see that however Black Betty is still 26 lbs or should I say 12,000 grams? ;)

[KORBIN5895]

OK, Great. Then without doing any math you can tell me exactly how many cubic inches are in 7.473728 cubic feet, right?

I can tell you how many cubic millimeters are in 7.473728 cubic meters by moving the decimal place.

Don't need any math because you're used to it right. So go ahead. I'm waiting for your exact numeric value without any math. :)

So you came up with. 417457.11 mm by moving the decimal point? Your amazing!

[theapexgerman]

So you came up with. 417457.11 mm by moving the decimal point? Your amazing!
All I got to say is lol

[hellosugaree]

Im sure you do and I think thats great



Ok I can see that however Black Betty is still 26 lbs or should I say 12,000 grams? ;)

12 kg or kilograms is 12000 grams. With numbers over 1000grams or sometimes less you would just say in kg. 500 grams is 0.5kg. 1000grams 1kg. By the way, no matter how you say it, 26lbs or 12kg, we can all understand that you have one BIG snake--that is a concept that transcends measurement systems. :) pictures?

[hellosugaree]

See I dont go with what the majority opinion is on anything for the sake of following that majority opinion. I go with what seems right to me and it doesnt matter what other people think about anything so arguing what is easier or better falls on deaf ears. Call it stubborn or even stupid, Idc. Thats just the way I am.

That's perfectly acceptable. Rock on!

[red ink]

I would like to point out that a liter of liquid mercury weighs slightly more than a liter of water. Which then throws the whole stupid idea that all one liter containers of liquid weighs one kilo.


Mercury as an element is technically a metal... a litre of molten gold or lead would definitely weigh more than a kilo as well.

[millertime89]

Mercury as an element is technically a metal... a litre of molten gold or lead would definitely weigh more than a kilo as well.

and would go a long way to funding my snake addiction!

[KORBIN5895]

Mercury as an element is technically a metal... a litre of molten gold or lead would definitely weigh more than a kilo as well.

The difference between liquid mercury and molten gold is mercury is a liquid at room temp iirc while gold is not.

So back to our American friend trlling us how easy the metric system is...... Please explain to me how you got the answer to the sq mm question by just moving the decimal? This is twice you have given an example that is very fishy. Do you have any actual experience with metric?

[hellosugaree]

So you came up with. 417457.11 mm by moving the decimal point? Your amazing!

It's not 417457.11 Where did you come up with that? It's 7473728000. Might want to check your math next time :) If you can count, you'll notice the decimal moved 9 places to the right.

[hellosugaree]

All I got to say is lol

Me too, because his math is wrong :)

[KORBIN5895]

It's not 417457.11 Where did you come up with that? It's 7473728000. Might want to check your math next time :) If you can count, you'll notice the decimal moved 9 places to the right.

Lol. I will give you that one. I was figuring out how many mm were in 7.473728 meters cubed not how many cubic mm were in 7.473728 cu m.

So the score stands 1-1. Your mother must be so proud! Your tied with the village idiot! ;)

[Gungirl]

..... 2+2=4

[exwizard]

12 kg or kilograms is 12000 grams. With numbers over 1000grams or sometimes less you would just say in kg. 500 grams is 0.5kg. 1000grams 1kg. By the way, no matter how you say it, 26lbs or 12kg, we can all understand that you have one BIG snake--that is a concept that transcends measurement systems. :) pictures?

Ask and you shall receive. :)

Keep in mind, shes a Dum and theyre not supposed to be this big but here she is.

[hellosugaree]

..... 2+2=4

Brilliant!

[hellosugaree]

Ask and you shall receive. :)

Keep in mind, shes a Dum and theyre not supposed to be this big but here she is.

Impressive snake. She's really pretty.

[Gungirl]

Brilliant!

Thanks.. I figured someone would get a chuckle out of it :)

[Skumbo]

OK, Great. Then without doing any math you can tell me exactly how many cubic inches are in 7.473728 cubic feet, right?

I can tell you how many cubic millimeters are in 7.473728 cubic meters by moving the decimal place.

Don't need any math because you're used to it right. So go ahead. I'm waiting for your exact numeric value without any math. :)

There's a reason why all science is done in metric. Cause it's easily understandable like this compared to imperial. If you're doing anything horribly complicated the last thing you need is to be converting in ways that you cant eyeball and go "wait that looks wrong"

[red ink]

The difference between liquid mercury and molten gold is mercury is a liquid at room temp iirc while gold is not.



All that means is that mercury as a metal has a very low melting point hence it stays in a predominant liquid state. If the room temp happens to be -39C then in that room mercury is in it's solid form (metal). This is why I made the comparison with other metals in a "liquid" form.

[hellosugaree]

*tempted to show his chemistry exam study guide for friday*

No?

Vapor equations anyone?

Advanced stoichiometry?

Heh? Heh?!

So I take it you're beyond PV = nRT now :)

[Skumbo]

So I take it you're beyond PV = nRT now :)

Uhh yeah.. more like..

(LOL! The forum wont accept some of the formatting like the sum symbol lol)

we're also doing lattice energies, from the born-lande equations

which look like this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/math/e/4/e/e4e1219b20a6dffdd490de8fe82c9f08.png

which comes from electrostatic potential:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/math/f/1/0/f1080e312ccddf66870df3471842e671.png
repulsive term:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/math/7/d/7/7d7b82674112df481c91692b3ee6b49b.png

then we have to find total energy:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/math/f/7/5/f7535fc8d2f5cecf226edc1bd3f86e15.png
from unknown B:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/math/f/8/b/f8bcb29a156c760fa615b2cd484aaa2f.png

so you find it by substitution B in terms of Ro, which gives:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/math/6/1/d/61db041a9263a27ceee50f4f64f9ab43.png

And i need this for being a personal trainer... why?


(images from wikipedia, couldnt find it layed out anywhere that would format, luckily it was in images!)

[MoreliAddict]

my mom is a person trainer, no we she learned all that lol

[hellosugaree]

Uhh yeah.. more like..


so you find it by substitution B in terms of Ro, which gives:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/math/6/1/d/61db041a9263a27ceee50f4f64f9ab43.png

And i need this for being a personal trainer... why?


(images from wikipedia, couldnt find it layed out anywhere that would format, luckily it was in images!)


Essentially you're just plugging numbers into the last equation though, yes? Nothing too crazy. And yes, you will use that every day as a personal trainer. These exact equations. That's why you have to learn them, right? Haha. It's all part of the process. They just want to make sure you are dedicated enough to put up with the BS before they turn you loose. I spent 4 years in college and now starting another 5+ in grad school. All this emphasis on training your brain when in reality, 99% of what I actually do involves my hands.

[shaunyboy]

..... 2+2=4

^^^^^
thats about my limit to pal:yes:

cheers shaun:D

[Skumbo]

Essentially you're just plugging numbers into the last equation though, yes? Nothing too crazy. And yes, you will use that every day as a personal trainer. These exact equations. That's why you have to learn them, right? Haha. It's all part of the process. They just want to make sure you are dedicated enough to put up with the BS before they turn you loose. I spent 4 years in college and now starting another 5+ in grad school. All this emphasis on training your brain when in reality, 99% of what I actually do involves my hands.

Yeah i know, i actually worked as a PT for a year before ever going to college. learned more in that year than i have in 4 at college. Oh well. going to make way more $ with a degree.

[hellosugaree]

Yeah i know, i actually worked as a PT for a year before ever going to college. learned more in that year than i have in 4 at college. Oh well. going to make way more $ with a degree.

Sounds like a better system. I made more money with a bachelors than I do as a graduate student. Then, once I get a PhD, I'll start making the same amount as I made in my first job after I got my bachelors degree. Maybe I should've been a PT instead of a scientist :(

[Skumbo]

Sounds like a better system. I made more money with a bachelors than I do as a graduate student. Then, once I get a PhD, I'll start making the same amount as I made in my first job after I got my bachelors degree. Maybe I should've been a PT instead of a scientist :(

Hah! yeah..

I made $35/hr working at a gym (granted, ~20 hours a week) but going in w/ accredidations (ACSM, NASM, etc etc all of which ive taken and just need to renew) and a bachelors in ex phys, I'm "all set"

I called for a required (for graduation) internship this summer, i'll be done w/ classes but need to do my 2nd internship to get my degree, explained the situation, etc. I'm getting $12/hr for interning at this place, and they said I could apply as a "head trainer" if i have all those accreditations when im done, sine 98% of PT's dont bother going to college, many PT's are athletes who use PT as a "backup" plan, and just grab one accredidatoin and apply for a planet fitness job at $18/hr and never progress.

(Master trainers at the club im doing the internship make $89/session (hour session) + sales (packages, group classes, etc.) as a starting salary, the gym gives you 15 sessions a week, and you have to fill in the rest of your clients through your own marketing. Plus you make $12/hr on the floor even if you aren't training. the $129/hr in per session, $12/hr is per hour. So i'd make $12/hr * 40 + sessions per week
I made $9/hr + $35/session before college working at a Golds gym), its a pretty sweet deal if you love training people, which I do!


I saved up about $35,000 before college (full year of PT living at my parents place w/ no bills other than gas = win), used most of it by now for rent, gas, my car, etc etc the last 4 years, now I have about $2K left to my name, but its way better than most college students.. hah!

[Gungirl]

I wish I had a gym near me That I could afford and I could get a personal trainer! I need someone to boot my arse in gear. I love to work out but I fail at getting motivated. I used to work out a lot and I felt awesome but now I am a bum.. I really really want to join a gym again. :(

[Skumbo]

You dont need a gym, I've never worked out at a gym for any significant time. I work out at home (granted ive invested some $$ into proper equipment) but if you just want basic fitness goals all you need is a body and motivation.

Its all about motivation. Most people dont have it, many are willing to pay for it (my job, haha). The thing with being healthy is you have to commit to it, you cant do it for a few weeks then feel good about yourself and go back to old habits, its a way of life not something you do on the side, sadly. And many of the people who put the time and effort in make mistakes that really contradict what they're trying to do. it really does take up a lot of time, more than most realize.

[millertime89]

I wish I had a gym near me That I could afford and I could get a personal trainer! I need someone to boot my arse in gear. I love to work out but I fail at getting motivated. I used to work out a lot and I felt awesome but now I am a bum.. I really really want to join a gym again. :(

Find someone you know with p90x and borrow it.

[Gungirl]

I don't have the self disciplined needed to do it on my own. I need someone to kick my butt. I also fail at working out at home because every time I get into working out I see something I need to clean or an animal that could use some time.

[Skumbo]

Find someone you know with p90x and borrow it.

Eh. For someone who has a hard time being motivated at home, p90x might burn you out.

there are *many* issues with p90x that dont belong in this thread.

[millertime89]

Eh. For someone who has a hard time being motivated at home, p90x might burn you out.

there are *many* issues with p90x that dont belong in this thread.

I've probably heard them all, I worked at a rec center for 4 years.

[Skumbo]

I've probably heard them all, I worked at a rec center for 4 years.

Yup, and I've been studying exercise physiology for the same amount of time