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TremTricolors
03-24-12, 06:42 PM
I will step away from posting some more milksnakes and post some of the most under - rated snakes in the genus of Lampropeltis.IMHO. Lampropeltis calligaster or most commonly known as the Prairie Kingsnake. These are some of the most docile snakes I have ever worked with. They don't come in a bunch of morphs so they certainly don't get the attention they should. Here's one of my hypomelanistic males and one of my amelanistic males. They won't sit still for anything so sorry for the pics. Almost forgot, in some of the most recent years some have hatched a striped phase but needs to be worked on to see if it is genetic or just a change in incubation temps.
http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee515/KcTrader/calligasterhypo2.jpg
http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee515/KcTrader/calligasterhypo1.jpg
http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee515/KcTrader/calligasteramel3.jpg
http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee515/KcTrader/calligasteramel2.jpg

theapexgerman
03-24-12, 06:45 PM
yea parire king exspecialy the albino one very cool just kinda hard to find around here and post some more milks lol close I'm going to get to one is your pics

alessia55
03-24-12, 06:45 PM
Wow they look awesome! They definitely deserve more attention :yes:

Trent
03-24-12, 07:24 PM
Nice pics!!!

TremTricolors
03-24-12, 07:43 PM
yea parire king exspecialy the albino one very cool just kinda hard to find around here and post some more milks lol close I'm going to get to one is your pics

Not sure I understand the last part, but will try and get better pics by weeks end and post some more milks.

Wow they look awesome! They definitely deserve more attention :yes:

Thanks!

Nice pics!!!

Thanks! I wish they will stay still long enough, I guess they will have to have a photo shoot on an overcast day to capture their true beauty though.

theapexgerman
03-24-12, 07:47 PM
Let me put it another way the pics of your milks that you post are my only way of getting close to those milks

TremTricolors
03-24-12, 07:57 PM
Let me put it another way the pics of your milks that you post are my only way of getting close to those milks

Ah I see! Thanks my brain just wasn't functioning. Like I said I will throw some pics hopefully together by weeks end. Some are shedding now so they should be nice in a few days.

TremTricolors
03-24-12, 07:59 PM
theapexgerman- Here's the tangerine gravid last year
http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee515/KcTrader/Easter2011012.jpg

TremTricolors
03-24-12, 07:59 PM
Ooops wrong one!http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee515/KcTrader/Easter2011013.jpg

theapexgerman
03-24-12, 08:01 PM
Now those are the pics I like wow so bright and can't wait to see the post shed pics to

TremTricolors
03-24-12, 08:01 PM
Here she is with her clutch
http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee515/KcTrader/Blog%20Album/hondo_clutch_6_14_11.jpg

theapexgerman
03-24-12, 08:03 PM
Wow she's doing a pretty good job at guarding them looks like I always wonder is it hard taking eggs from an female snake?

TremTricolors
03-24-12, 08:09 PM
No not really, most of the time female colubrids crawl right out of the nest box after they are done depositing their eggs. Usually within 24 -48 hours anyway. They are not like pythons and sit with them til they hatch. She was a little nippy last year but she had just got done and she was still pretty weak. But she ate that evening and wound up having another clutch later in the year.

theapexgerman
03-24-12, 08:13 PM
wow now that's cool imma going to start breeding next year my male albino nelson to an T-postive albino female nelson so trying to get all the info I can

TremTricolors
03-24-12, 08:18 PM
Do you have a t plus female?

theapexgerman
03-24-12, 08:21 PM
Yea the small petstore I've been going to for years were I got almost all of my snake from has an 4 year old female one he said he would let me use her sounds bad lol to breed to my nelson

TremTricolors
03-24-12, 08:31 PM
Really, that's cool considering the T plus gene hasn't been around all that long. The t negative has, since about 1996 or earlier I think. The T positive gene hit the hobby in 2007 I think, so it's still fairly new. The T positive was originally produced over the pond and imported into the states. How much are they asking for the T positive female?

theapexgerman
03-24-12, 08:36 PM
Its not for sale I try for a year almost to buy it its his pride and joy when I go to pick up more mice ill take pics of it if I breed the two what be the chances of the clutch having t positive babies

TremTricolors
03-24-12, 08:59 PM
Its not for sale I try for a year almost to buy it its his pride and joy when I go to pick up more mice ill take pics of it if I breed the two what be the chances of the clutch having t positive babies

I can see why, they are some of the nicest morphs in tricolors I have seen.

Considering the t plus gene is co-dominate to the amelanistic gene, if you breed a t negative to a t plus, 50% of the babies will be t plus and 50% of the babies will be T negative. Now I don't know if the T-negative's are carriers for the T plus gene or not. I don't know anyone that has done that breeding yet. I am sure it has been done I just don't know the outcome.

theapexgerman
03-24-12, 09:03 PM
Well we will see what happens next year lol hope I get one T+ babie out of the clutch I got an feeling tho it will all be babie albino nelson tho his female is just colorful

TremTricolors
03-24-12, 09:07 PM
You should get more than one, I think out of a six egg clutch last year, Shannon Brown produced 4 t plus and two normal albino's. So it is like playing the lottery or a game of percentages. Normal albino's sell for $30.00 and T plus sell for $400.00.

theapexgerman
03-24-12, 09:10 PM
Yea lol if I get more than one I may keep them exspecialy if one an female and a male and who know I could get an double clutch everytime I gamble I lose so I hope if not the same way with breeding