triple het

[wildcat]

I'm breeding two triple hets together, and I seem to get conflicting answers using the calculator and the punnet square.
I'm breeding a triple het male moonglow...salmon, anery and albino with a triple het sunglow jungle female...salmon, albino and jungle.
The possibilities seem endless, could someone give me a straight answer pls.
Thanks

[Caylan]

I did that one night for fun, punnet squares get ridiculous! Just sub in any morphs really, odds end up being out of 64 obviously. Hope this helps...(and doesn't make me look nuts..):wacky::wacky::wacky:
http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/ww355/Inugohan/Misc/Genetics301.jpg

Edit: Instead of anery's you would get jungles het anery...

[CDN_Blood]

Man, it's a good thing I don't feel compelled to breed anything 'cause tthhaatt hhuurrttss mmyy eeyyeess :)

[KORBIN5895]

First of a snake can't be het jungle as jungle is a dominant gene. You will get all salmons, 50% jungle and 25% albino. So you will end up with roughly 25% sunglow and 75% salmon. Half of your snakes will inherit the jungle pattern. I believe the salmons will be 66% het albino( not sure on that percentage).

[Caylan]

Jungle is actually codom, but the super proving infertile. Regardless half the litter theoretically would present the jungle gene like you said, half wouldn't. All the babies would be 50%het anery, so half are hets, half aren't, you just can't tell... the het albinos are 66% het so around 2/3's of the litter would be het albino but the remaining third with no albino gene.

[UwabamiReptiles]

That sounds like it would be a fun litter to try to sort through.

[KORBIN5895]

Jungle is actually codom, but the super proving infertile. Regardless half the litter theoretically would present the jungle gene like you said, half wouldn't. All the babies would be 50%het anery, so half are hets, half aren't, you just can't tell... the het albinos are 66% het so around 2/3's of the litter would be het albino but the remaining third with no albino gene.

How can they prove it to be codom if the super can't reproduce?

Whoops. I missed the het anery part.

Also the male and female are both het albino so 25% should be visual albino which is a sunglow when the hypo gene is also present.

[KORBIN5895]

Where in Canada are you from wildcat?

[Caylan]

It's a visual super called the Raptor boa proven by Pete Kahl. Though infertile, it's no jungle. Plus, how many jungles are infertile?? That alone would say there is something different. Come on I'm not even a boa guy :D

I'll write it all out now to make it easier though:
You will get,
Normals 66%het albino, 50% het anery.
Salmons 66%het albino, 50%het anery
Jungles 66%het albino, 50%het anery
Salmon Jungles 66%het albino, 50%het anery
Super Salmons 66%het albino, 50%het anery
Super Salmon Jungles, 66%het albino, 50%het anery
Albinos 50%het anery
Sunglows 50%het anery
Super Salmon Sunglows 50%het anery
Albino Jungles 50%het anery
Sunglow Jungles 50%het anery
Super Salmon Sunglow Jungles 50%het anery

I don't think I missed any... Straight enough answer?

[KORBIN5895]

It's a visual super called the Raptor boa proven by Pete Kahl. Though infertile, it's no jungle. Plus, how many jungles are infertile?? That alone would say there is something different. Come on I'm not even a boa guy :D


I have not even heard of the raptor. Hmmmm. I haven't heard of jungles being infertile either. All I know is that it is a dom gene ( again I haven't heard of it being proven super). I see several people selling possible super jungles but they all look like normal jungles to me. I myself am not too keen on pattern morphs. I have some research to do.

[wildcat]

I want to thank all of you for your input,
My head was starting to hurt trying to figure it out.
That's one hell of a punnet square bud.
We live in southern bc.
Can't wait to get this project started, going to be quite the creation.

[wildcat]

Duplicate post...sorry.

[MoreliAddict]

Man, it's a good thing I don't feel compelled to breed anything 'cause tthhaatt hhuurrttss mmyy eeyyeess :)
same thoughts herehttp://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd364/CBLsDad/oblivious.png

[Caylan]

Well I screwed up big time.... The raptor boa is a completely separate morph, but the super jungle does still exist, and in Pete Kahls collection no less. Apparently its a genetically inferior morph that does not survive well, but has been outbred to produce living specimens. They are visually different then the jungle, and have problems with mortality rate for some reason(similar to super motley I suppose) so they wouldn't be hard to differentiate from heterozygous jungles. Not sure how I screwed them up with the raptor boa though.... Regardless, the list is still accurate as far as I'm concerned, and the punnet square was just because I was bored and curious lol. Took Almost an hour :wacky: