Another n00b!

[Trollbie]

Hello,

Yesterday I went to buy fish food yesterday, and came home with a snake... So I'm very much a noob to snakes but I want to do everything right and I'm hoping this forum will help me do that!


My new baby is a Milk snake and her name is Penelope :)

[infernalis]

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[KORBIN5895]

Welcome. It's a jungle in here!

Good luck with your milk.

[Swany]

Hi and welcome to the madhouse ;-)

[CK SandBoas]

Hi there, welcome to the forums!:D

[UwabamiReptiles]

Welcome to the forum!

[marvelfreak]

Hello and welcome to our zoo. Any question you have feel free to ask. So how big and old is your Milk Snake?

[alessia55]

Welcome to the forum :)
Please post pics of Penelope. And feel free to ask us any questions you have about your new pet :)

[MoreliAddict]

hi & welcome!

[theapexgerman]

Congrats on your new milk it will make a good pet and welcome to the forums

[StuDude]

Get REPTILES FOR DUMMIES. its good.

[Trent]

Hi and welcome!!

[Trollbie]

Thank you everyone!

Penelope is somehwere between 50-70cm I think. I haven't measured her yet but she's for sure less than a meter. They said she won't get much longer. Is that true? I'm not sure what subspecies she is either :/. And they told me she's probably 2-3 years old max, but they're not sure about that either. If anyone of you might be able to guesstimate, that'd be awesome!

Here she is!
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll256/Czechish/c8a67693.jpg

And here's the part that worries me! Haha
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll256/Czechish/4e6eff3e.jpg

[CK SandBoas]

There are clips you can buy that will keep the screen lid secure, i use them on the tanks i keep a few of my Kenyan Sand Boas in. They can be a pain to clip on, but it's better than having to look for an escaped pet :)

[theapexgerman]

Looks to be full grown its kinda looks like a red milk either that or maybe a coastal plains than it looks likes a lousiana milk if its that a pretty big one there one of the smaller sub species. But yours look pretty

[alessia55]

get these security clips... it'll hold the cover firmly in place

http://s.petco.com/assets/product_images/8/800443078440C.jpg

[Trollbie]

Looks to be full grown its kinda looks like a red milk either that or maybe a coastal plains than it looks likes a lousiana milk if its that a pretty big one there one of the smaller sub species. But yours look pretty

She's still young though, right?

[theapexgerman]

I couldn't tell you that only way that would help is how often he/she sheds if he sheds often its younger if he sheds not so often he's older but that's just a rough way to tell and make for sure you get thoses clips to milks are the best at escaping lol the clips around me cost like a few bucks for 2 of them can you take a pic of his belly?

[Trollbie]

I couldn't tell you that only way that would help is how often he/she sheds if he sheds often its younger if he sheds not so often he's older but that's just a rough way to tell and make for sure you get thoses clips to milks are the best at escaping lol the clips around me cost like a few bucks for 2 of them can you take a pic of his belly?

They said she sheds every 4-6 weeks? I could be way off! I'm going back there today so I'll ask again to make sure.

And I'll take a belly pic when I get home and for sure I'm getting those clips or something.

Can you guys show me pics of your tanks/cages? I want to decorate, but I only know how to decorate a hermit crab habitat and a fishtank lol.

[theapexgerman]

Well your in lock today is cleaning day for my cages ill take pic of my albino nelson milk set up well the basic set up and as for shed its not a old one but not a young one if that makes any sense

[Trollbie]

Looks to be full grown its kinda looks like a red milk either that or maybe a coastal plains than it looks likes a lousiana milk if its that a pretty big one there one of the smaller sub species. But yours look pretty

Well your in lock today is cleaning day for my cages ill take pic of my albino nelson milk set up well the basic set up and as for shed its not a old one but not a young one if that makes any sense

Sweet!

How often do old ones shed? I'm fine with her not being young but I'd like to have her for some time :) I do know that she just shed very recently.

So do they bellies indicate something?

[Trollbie]

Oops didn't mean to quote both posts

[theapexgerman]

Mines almost 5 years old or so and sheds only a few time a year but mines pretty much big as he's going to get and as for the belly It could help to eleimate one or two of the subspecies I'm uploading the pics at the moment

[Trollbie]

Mines almost 5 years old or so and sheds only a few time a year but mines pretty much big as he's going to get and as for the belly It could help to eleimate one or two of the subspecies I'm uploading the pics at the moment

Ooh okay. Could she be a Mexican? That's kinda what I thought when I was looking at all the subspecies last night.

[Trollbie]

But like I said, I'm a super n00b so I should probably let someone else guess haha

[theapexgerman]

Yup could be its hard to tell a lot of the subspecies there's a few different subspecies of my arizona mountain king the only way to tell them apart is by there bands or by the belly.ok so here is the tank I put my nelson in when I clean his cage its a temp cage just till I'm done cleaning his permant cage but he has 1 hide log and one water bowl in his permant cage he has 2 hide logs a water bowl and a tmep and humidity gauges but you can use this temp cage as a demo here it is
http://s19.postimage.org/43tr5cjrz/IMG100.jpg (http://postimage.org/image/43tr5cjrz/)

http://s19.postimage.org/dpnblnaxr/IMG101.jpg (http://postimage.org/image/dpnblnaxr/)

http://s19.postimage.org/sa4egh5wf/IMG102.jpg (http://postimage.org/image/sa4egh5wf/)

http://s19.postimage.org/9vtvchtlr/IMG103.jpg (http://postimage.org/image/9vtvchtlr/)

[Trollbie]

Ok so basic and simple is all they need? I still have to get her a hide or 2. I just don't like the plasticky ones and I was told that a log is gonna mold and stuff. Do you have that problem? Also what bedding is that? I just have aspen in there but yours looks cooler! Would she appreciate some plastic plants or branches to climb on? Or is that just asking for her to find a way to escape. Lol

[theapexgerman]

yea I have a waterfall in his permant cage so add some plastic plants if you want it won't huet and as for the log molding I never had a problem and I use repti-bark aspen perfectly fine but I love reptibark you can even reuse the stuff but get a temp gauge and a humidity gauge and that's bout it milks are hardy snakes just like corns and kings lol

[Trollbie]

Cool.

How big is your permanent cage? I think I have a turtle waterfall type thingy that might work! I'll have to look for it and see what it actually is haha. I like having tanks that don't look boring but aren't overdone either, so I'll play around lol. And I'd much rather have a log than some ugly fake looking thing. Since the humidity is already high, I probably don't even need to mist her much, right? That would also help with the log not molding. Is there a good website for cheaper supplies? I only have a petsmart here and a couple small stores so the either selection sucks or the prices are way too high.

[theapexgerman]

Um I Use bigappleherp a lot they got ok prices and good customer services my permant cage is ! 60 gallon you don't need one that big even the temp cage is a 5p gallong tank and as for misting I don't mist my milk or king the water bowls is good enough and if you want get this stuff called corkbark pretty pricy but I locve the stuff

[Trollbie]

Um I Use bigappleherp a lot they got ok prices and good customer services my permant cage is ! 60 gallon you don't need one that big even the temp cage is a 5p gallong tank and as for misting I don't mist my milk or king the water bowls is good enough and if you want get this stuff called corkbark pretty pricy but I locve the stuff

Yeah I'm not planning on going bigger gallon wise. But eventually, especially of she gets bigger still, I'll get a 20g long instead of tall. Or I'll trade with my parents lol. They're a little too crazy with their fish hobby lol. I could easily get a 55g tank that they're getting rid of, but I'm about to graduate college so I'll probably be moving quite a bit in the near future so a 30g fish tank and a 20g snake tank are probably already too much to be moving around haha.

But if anyone needs a bigger tank, it's my fish D: so Penelope is gonna have to enjoy what she's got now haha

[theapexgerman]

A 20gallon long is fine my tanks stay in place for most part so I go way big milks are my fav snakes only other snake that beats them is my dumeril boa

[Trollbie]

Once I'm in a stable living situation I'll definitely c

[Trollbie]

Onsider a bigger tank and maybe even more snakes...

[theapexgerman]

yup hope you enjoy your new milk

[Trollbie]

I am! I'm at work now and then I have class but all I wanna do is go home and hold her haha.

Somebody is going to have to hold my hand when feeding time comes though... D:

[theapexgerman]

Feeding is fun up to you if you want to do live or frozen thawed f/t is safer but I never had a problem with live but if you do feed live just watch the feeding since your not use to feeding I would go towards F/T more so than live

[Trollbie]

She's been fed fresh pre killed up to now so that works for me haha.

[theapexgerman]

Sounds good when was the last time she eat?

[Trollbie]

Like 5-6 days ago. I think I'll feed her on Thursday to make sure she's all settled in. And because my Tuesdays and Wednesdays are the days I'm at work and school from 7am till like 9-10pm non stop so I won't have a chance to get the mouse. I'm pretty sure my housemates will kill me if I put a dead mouse in the freezer :/

[theapexgerman]

Yea my girlfriend would kill me if I put a dead rodent in the freezer even in a zip lock bagy one of the reason I don't feed f/t lol

[Trollbie]

Yea my girlfriend would kill me if I put a dead rodent in the freezer even in a zip lock bagy one of the reason I don't feed f/t lol

Women... Rofl

[theapexgerman]

yup reason why I didn't want to get a house together lol so many rules like living at my miother house

[Trollbie]

yup reason why I didn't want to get a house together lol so many rules like living at my miother house

There's exceptions lol.

When my ex fiancé and I were going to pre marital counseling, we found out that I have characteristics of a typical man and he had characteristics of a typical woman haha.

[theapexgerman]

Atleast she likes reptiles so that's the good thing so hard typing on a phone wile having my dum out and on me hope you have a fun time with your new pet

[Trollbie]

Thanks for all the advice! I'll probably have a thousand more questions later lol

[theapexgerman]

ask away lol and if you ever want another snake down the road get a dumeril boa lol best snake I have so far

[Trollbie]

ask away lol and if you ever want another snake down the road get a dumeril boa lol best snake I have so far

Don't they get huge?

[theapexgerman]

Males don't to big female ball pythons get as big or bigger than a male dum your looking at a 5 foot to 6 foot but they do get bigger girth than balls but very mellow and easy to care for not bad price either and dums are lap snakes I got mine out at the moment he's been out of his tub for over 1 hour and he doesn't want to go back in

[Trollbie]

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll256/Czechish/cb7eebd2.jpg

[Trollbie]

Males don't to big female ball pythons get as big or bigger than a male dum your looking at a 5 foot to 6 foot but they do get bigger girth than balls but very mellow and easy to care for not bad price either and dums are lap snakes I got mine out at the moment he's been out of his tub for over 1 hour and he doesn't want to go back in

Lap snake! Lmao

[theapexgerman]

The belly pic is a good one well its not a costal plains milk and my dum is very lazy once he's on my lap or chest he won't move

[Trollbie]

So then what could she be?

[theapexgerman]

I'm going towards a regular red milk or maybe a pueblan but to hard to tell by pics

[Trollbie]

OH EM GEE! I love her!!!!!! How am I gonna make myself study for finals now... lol

[theapexgerman]

Glad you do or you can get an albino tangerine honduran instead of a dum very pretty I always wanted one but price is kinda high tho but very pretty and make your self study

[Trollbie]

so it looks like that Red Milk Snakes have a red blotch on their head. Penelope has a black one

[theapexgerman]

It can be red or black I've seen both colors but pueblans also have a black blotch so its either or do you know were it came from

[Trollbie]

Nope. But I'll ask!

[theapexgerman]

Yea if its either or there really good for handleing but if its a red milk it will get bigger

[Trollbie]

OMG someone is selling a rainbow boa for $75 in my area. With tank and everything...

[Bradyloach]

it may be cheap, but dont let your buys be impulse :D its hard to take care of more than 1 snake! well the people on here some are crazy and have 50+ haha im kidding everyone! loves you all! what im saying is, buys that are impulse are almost thought of trying to get out of it. i hate to say it but when i was learning about the proper care for my sav... i wanted to bring her back, but i couldnt let her end up dead. so shes now my baby and i LOVE savs :D

[theapexgerman]

Get it lol there like 200 bucks were I go they make good snakes but something wrong for that price

[theapexgerman]

it may be cheap, but dont let your buys be impulse :D its hard to take care of more than 1 snake! well the people on here some are crazy and have 50+ haha im kidding everyone! loves you all! what im saying is, buys that are impulse are almost thought of trying to get out of it. i hate to say it but when i was learning about the proper care for my sav... i wanted to bring her back, but i couldnt let her end up dead. so shes now my baby and i LOVE savs :D
I bought a few snakes on impulse befor but I knew how to take care of them but I would want the BRB for 75 bucks

[Trollbie]

He says he doesn't have the time anymore but that he won't give it to just anyone. He'd rather keep her if it won't be better off. I want to at least see it lol.

Penelope was a super impulsive buy! Haha

[Trollbie]

I'll buy it and you can come pick it up lol

[theapexgerman]

Lol wish you was closer to me damm nothing happens like that around here

[Trollbie]

where do you live?

[theapexgerman]

Phoenix az

[Trollbie]

I go to LA and San Diego area often. That's closer :P

[theapexgerman]

Yea LA isn't to far away but not worth the gas lol

[Trollbie]

Ok so she's a Red, but they're not sure locality-wise.

[theapexgerman]

Aww lol the other day my breeder got one in but its like 250 bucks lol

[Trollbie]

Ok so she's a Red, but they're not sure locality-wise.


Wait I'm talking about my snake lol. But I texted the person with the Rainbow boa. Omg Omg Omg... WHAT AM I DOING!?!

Haha

[theapexgerman]

I'm drinking with old buddys and playing street fighter half drunk

[Trollbie]

I'm drinking with old buddys and playing street fighter half drunk


Nice!

So what's with people's siggies and putting 1.0 this and 0.2 that and such?

[theapexgerman]

Ill try to explain while I'm half drunk 0.0.0 first spot is its a male second spot is if its a juvinials and last spot is female

[Trollbie]

Ill try to explain while I'm half drunk 0.0.0 first spot is its a male second spot is if its a juvinials and last spot is female

Oooooooooh!

[theapexgerman]

Yea took me awhile to learn my self I'm loseing on street fighter getting whoop by a asian dude

[Trollbie]

I'm researching rainbow boas... o.O

[theapexgerman]

yea BRB are some good lookers and pretty easy to care for and such so pretty I. Want one but imma going to get a albino tangerine honduran milk

[reptile65]

Ill try to explain while I'm half drunk 0.0.0 first spot is its a male second spot is if its a juvinials and last spot is female

Actually the first spot is male, second is female, and third is unsexed.

[theapexgerman]

Hmmm learn something new


Edit I found this on another forum
The first number is the amount of males - 1.0.0 = 1 male The second number is females - 1.2.0 - 1 male and 2 females The third number is juvenile/unknown sex - 1.2.1 - 1 male, 2 female, 1 unknown

[Gungirl]

Nice!

So what's with people's siggies and putting 1.0 this and 0.2 that and such?

http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/general-discussion/85699-herp-lingo.html

Reading through this will help you understand all the basic herp lingo we use.

[millertime89]

I'm pretty sure my housemates will kill me if I put a dead mouse in the freezer :/

Mine don't know there's a dead 150 gram rat in ours... :D

edit: oh, and welcome

[theapexgerman]

Lol just wait till he/she starst looking in the freezer and finds it it be a funny site to see

[Trollbie]

Well, there's a dead mouse in the freezer now because I didn't know what else to do with it since Penelope spat it out. So I guess I might as well start buying frozen mice lol

[theapexgerman]

Lol well the mouse still good just give it a rinse if you try and feed the mouse again to get all the gunk off of it

[Aaron_S]

I'm researching rainbow boas... o.O

Slow down.

You haven't even got your first snake to eat yet and you've got the idea of a potential new one in your head.

About what kind of milksnake you own, look up the taxonomy of the various subspecies you think she is. That should give you pics of what size and how many scales are in and around the head area. That is the better way than just guessing based off looks.

Lastly, to get your snake to eat. Don't handle it as much. Attempt to feed her again in 5 days and see how it goes.

[Trollbie]

Slow down.

You haven't even got your first snake to eat yet and you've got the idea of a potential new one in your head.

About what kind of milksnake you own, look up the taxonomy of the various subspecies you think she is. That should give you pics of what size and how many scales are in and around the head area. That is the better way than just guessing based off looks.

Lastly, to get your snake to eat. Don't handle it as much. Attempt to feed her again in 5 days and see how it goes.

Already gave up on that boa. I'm gonna get a python or a boa eventually but not yet. She is a Red. If handling was the problem, why would she get almost all of the mouse in and then spit it out? I didn't handle her before feeding.

[Lankyrob]

Already gave up on that boa. I'm gonna get a python or a boa eventually but not yet. She is a Red. If handling was the problem, why would she get almost all of the mouse in and then spit it out? I didn't handle her before feeding.


Just a thought, and i may be wrong so please dont take offence, when you fed her were you hanging around her viv watching her?

My BP is a shy feeder, if i let him strike the rat and then walk away he will eat fine, if i hang around his viv or try to get pics he will most often leave the prey and come back to it overnight - its just a thought :)

[theapexgerman]

Oh yea good point my dumeril was a shy eater I had to leave the room for the first month or to now he let's me watch try leaving the room I had to turn off the lights

[Trollbie]

I was around, but from what I've been told, she's not a shy eater at all. Next time I'll jut leave though.

[KORBIN5895]

Oh yea good point my dumeril was a shy eater I had to leave the room for the first month or to now he let's me watch try leaving the room I had to turn off the lights

Dude! You haven't had that dum two months already have you?

[theapexgerman]

Its now going on the 3rd month I had him I can't seemed to find the stub that shows I bought him