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lady_bug87
03-05-12, 01:55 PM
So here he is Mr. Crowley himself and I could not think of a better name for this grumpy strikey bitey thing. He is pretty though and has been moved to hoppers I believe he was hatched in the early part of 2011 and though I originally thought he was a red tiger I now believe him to be a bicolour (thanks BarelyBreathing!)

Enjoy.

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The moment when he said "Enough woman I will no longer tolerate this"

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BarelyBreathing
03-05-12, 01:57 PM
Oh my gosh, he is PHENOMINAL!

exwizard
03-05-12, 01:58 PM
Oh maan! What kind of snake is he again? He sure is a pretty "grumpy, bitey thing".

BarelyBreathing
03-05-12, 02:03 PM
Amazon tree boa. (Corallus hortulanus)

lady_bug87
03-05-12, 02:05 PM
^^ thanks he is an Amazon Tree Boa

exwizard
03-05-12, 02:09 PM
Ok cool. Very pretty. :)

lady_bug87
03-05-12, 02:11 PM
yea he's got an attitude on him. We tried to hook him once and he got on ok and then refused to get off and just decided it was time to start biting

exwizard
03-05-12, 02:14 PM
I dont have any experience with ATBs but so far every snake I got ahold of, I was able to tame down, even Macklot's which are some of the biteyest babies around. Not sure about him though but it would be fun trying. :)

BarelyBreathing
03-05-12, 02:24 PM
yea he's got an attitude on him. We tried to hook him once and he got on ok and then refused to get off and just decided it was time to start biting


Hahahaha, that's an Amazon, alright.

Exwizard, what's stopping you from getting one?

lady_bug87
03-05-12, 02:26 PM
haha its true he kept missing but I gave him an A+ for effort

CDN_Blood
03-05-12, 02:29 PM
He's a decent looking little dude. The attitude some of these things have is funny. The last one I handled looked me in the eye, looked at my arm, bit it and then looked back at my face as if to say 'Ha! How'dya like *that*' :)

Trent
03-05-12, 02:30 PM
Very nice!!

BarelyBreathing
03-05-12, 02:35 PM
He's a decent looking little dude. The attitude some of these things have is funny. The last one I handled looked me in the eye, looked at my arm, bit it and then looked back at my face as if to say 'Ha! How'dya like *that*' :)


Mine are all like that in one form or another.

I was holding one of my babies (not really babies anymore, but considering they're the youngest and smallest, I call them babies), and she kept getting closer and closer to my face as if to investigate. Then, almost in slow motion, she bit me on the nose, pulled back, and stared at me. I SWEAR she was saying "Ha! You know better than to let me get that close to your face! And I'll do it again, too!". I'm serious, I've never seen a snake look more proud of themselves.

lady_bug87
03-05-12, 02:37 PM
Its true.

He'll sometimes let himself slide through my hands and then suddenly he turns towards my arm as if to say "Looks squishy maybe I should bite it" then I usually steer his head elsewhere. I think they think biting is a game..

exwizard
03-05-12, 02:37 PM
Hahahaha, that's an Amazon, alright.

Exwizard, what's stopping you from getting one?

Two things...

#1 We have enough snakes so I dont plan on getting any more anytime soon.

#2 From what Ive read, Amazons are like Green Trees and Emeralds, mainly a display only snake. Even if I did plan on getting more snakes, I would not and will not get anything Im not supposed to handle.

lady_bug87
03-05-12, 02:39 PM
^ you can handle it... it will just bite

CK SandBoas
03-05-12, 02:40 PM
Mr. Crowley is looking mighty fine!

exwizard
03-05-12, 02:48 PM
^ you can handle it... it will just bite

From what I understand, handling them stresses them out and I dont want that. I dont mind the biting so much. Ive been tagged numerous times by my Macks when they were babies and even Ramón when I tried to help him shed. Snake bites dont really hurt. They startle more than anything. Oh yeah, and they bleed a lot but thats ok with me. I just dont want to stress the snake out and if theyre prone to that, then Im not going there.

BarelyBreathing
03-05-12, 02:50 PM
Two things...

#1 We have enough snakes so I dont plan on getting any more anytime soon.

#2 From what Ive read, Amazons are like Green Trees and Emeralds, mainly a display only snake. Even if I did plan on getting more snakes, I would not and will not get anything Im not supposed to handle.


Amazons are definitely more handleable than emeralds and green trees, but less so than the snakes that you keep. A good handling schedule would be once or twice a week, three times if you keep handling periods short.

exwizard
03-05-12, 02:55 PM
Another thing too. Dont they like to perch on branches? I know that sounds like an obvious question but it leads me to another thing. I have no arboreal vivs. Most of my snakes are in racks and I dont see an Amazon doing well without any branches to perch onto.

BarelyBreathing
03-05-12, 03:00 PM
Another thing too. Dont they like to perch on branches? I know that sounds like an obvious question but it leads me to another thing. I have no arboreal vivs. Most of my snakes are in racks and I dont see an Amazon doing well without any branches to perch onto.


Yes, they are arboreal. They would do very well in a nice display enclosure.

exwizard
03-05-12, 03:03 PM
Yes Im sure they would. :) and once again, Mr. Crowley is a very pretty one.

lady_bug87
03-05-12, 06:37 PM
well right now he is in an 18 x12x 12 (L X W X H) and he is doing great.

marvelfreak
03-05-12, 07:31 PM
Cool looking little guy. I love his color.

krystle
03-05-12, 08:00 PM
Wow cool little snake never seen one in person might have to check one out lol

lady_bug87
03-05-12, 08:26 PM
thanks he's really amazing ATBs are so unique no 2 ever look alike. They also change their patterns as they grow. They have a more curious disposition than GTPs but have the same bitey attitude

CDN_Blood
03-06-12, 10:20 AM
Amazons are definitely more handleable than emeralds and green trees, but less so than the snakes that you keep. A good handling schedule would be once or twice a week, three times if you keep handling periods short.

I have to agree. This is one instance in keeping snakes when a schedule would likely prove beneficial. A handling schedule.

While snakes aren't she most intelligent pets, they can certainly learn routines - something like Okay, it's cleaning time so you're coming out and staying with me while I do that whether you like it or not type idea. One is bound to take a few hits, but eventually they realize biting isn't having the desired effect of making their molester put them down and they often stop after they figure that out.

Of course, there's nothing saying it'll ever get over it's attitude, but it's good if it can learn the desired behaviour during the short times it's necessary to interact with it.

My brongs don't particularly like interaction, but they tolerate the short times they are out dirtying their tubs because they've learned the routine that goes with that particular event. When I want to take them out for no particular reason, I use a different approach so they have a chance at that point to let me know if they're up for it, as opposed to having to submit out of necessity. It's a delicate balance, but it can be done :)

lady_bug87
03-06-12, 12:19 PM
I laughed at molester....

I've started with touching, just with the tip of my fingers so he gets used to the contact as soon as you try and get him out he stresses. He IS getting more brazen though which is good hes not shying away

CDN_Blood
03-06-12, 12:21 PM
I laughed at molester....

Heh, his words, not mine :D

lady_bug87
03-06-12, 12:23 PM
I can imagine! He very much likes being left alone in his translucent slightly opaque tub.