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DeesBalls
02-27-12, 09:41 AM
what is a good ration of males to females, i should have? and how can i decide on what morph to get as what sex?

does it matter if i have a

male mojave x female pastel
or
female mojave x male pastel?

will i get the same outcome even though different mom and dad?



spider
mojave
pastel
black pastel
pinstripe
lesser

those are what im looking to get i will get 1 male, and probably 2 females of each morph i get.

let me know what a good ratio would be, and if it matters what morph is male or female.

Jenn_06
02-27-12, 09:56 AM
Its not going to matter what morph the male and female are you are going to get the same out come.

its all about what you want to make like: if you want to make bees and Pastave i would be getting a pastel male the get a spider and mojave females so you can breed the male to both females.

DeesBalls
02-27-12, 10:15 AM
i see. that makes sense, i know for sure ill probably get another male pastel, (they make some cool stuff) and then just base what else i want to produce on what male or females to get.

thanks!

Maclyal
02-27-12, 11:15 AM
are you planning on getting these small & raising them or getting adults?
getting females as almost breeding size & male as first year sub adults or babies means you could breed next season.

if all babies, I would get your females this year & your males next.
that way they are both ready to breed at the same time.

females 1.5 to 2 yrs old & min. 1500 grams
males 7 months to 1 yr. min. 700 grams

I try to add a little age & size to those figures myself, but that's a good starting figure.

I use 1 male to 2 or 3 females.

DeesBalls
02-27-12, 11:18 AM
are you planning on getting these small & raising them or getting adults?
getting females as almost breeding size & male as first year sub adults or babies means you could breed next season.

if all babies, I would get your females this year & your males next.
that way they are both ready to breed at the same time.

females 1.5 to 2 yrs old & min. 1500 grams
males 7 months to 1 yr. min. 700 grams

I try to add a little age & size to those figures myself, but that's a good starting figure.

this is a good idea, i dont need to get them all right now... i want to get them as babies, and raise them up and breed them.. like i said, this is going to be for fun, and maybe make a little money on the side, just looking to get into breeding for fun.

so ill plan on getting 8 females this year, then some males next. unless i find awesome deals on males, then ill grab them :)

Maclyal
02-27-12, 11:23 AM
this is a good idea, i dont need to get them all right now... i want to get them as babies, and raise them up and breed them.. like i said, this is going to be for fun, and maybe make a little money on the side, just looking to get into breeding for fun.

so ill plan on getting 8 females this year, then some males next. unless i find awesome deals on males, then ill grab them :)

just remember, the more you have, the more it costs in time & money to take care of them.
try to start small so you can spend as much time with each one to make them tame & trusting.
then build as you get used to how much it takes for good care.

I have 27 breeders & 8 eggs to hatch on March 14.
those 8 will be sold as soon as they are ready, because 27 takes a lot of time.

DeesBalls
02-27-12, 11:36 AM
just remember, the more you have, the more it costs in time & money to take care of them.
try to start small so you can spend as much time with each one to make them tame & trusting.
then build as you get used to how much it takes for good care.

I have 27 breeders & 8 eggs to hatch on March 14.
those 8 will be sold as soon as they are ready, because 27 takes a lot of time.

i understand what you are saying. i will start small, but i sort of what to make some good morphs, other than albinos, or pieds, (if my hets prove out) i really like fireflys, and pastaves... so i want to produce "cheaper" morphs i guess so i will just get basic morphs, like spider, pastel, lesser, and maybe a cinnamon. to start.

Maclyal
02-27-12, 11:57 AM
good way to start.
then you can breed back your combo baby boys to the females & make even more genetic combos the next season.

DeesBalls
02-27-12, 12:18 PM
good way to start.
then you can breed back your combo baby boys to the females & make even more genetic combos the next season.

Im actually looking at a male pastave now, breed him to me female normal and i can make some pastels, mojaves and normals :) really excited to get the pastave!!

Maclyal
02-27-12, 01:13 PM
Im actually looking at a male pastave now, breed him to me female normal and i can make some pastels, mojaves and normals :) really excited to get the pastave!!

or breed him to a cinnamon & get
Savannah
pewter
pastel
mojave
cinnamon
pastave
savannah mojave
normal

DeesBalls
02-27-12, 01:19 PM
or breed him to a cinnamon & get
Savannah
pewter
pastel
mojave
cinnamon
pastave
savannah mojave
normal

oh wow... lol maybe ill get a cinny at the expo sunday :)