View Full Version : A miracle hatchling... (my burm arrived)
Spaghetti
02-24-12, 06:16 PM
So, my baby burm arrived today. We had an unexpected snowstorm (this is Michigan, after all), and FedEx was over 5 hours past the deadline of 10:30am for priority overnight. I opened the box, the heat packs were only slightly warm, and I reached into the box and pulled out a limp, lifeless body. I even gave him a little shake. Nothing. I immediately took photos and sent them to the seller, and then went to the kitchen to cry a little and make myself a sundae (what can I say, I was PMSing, lol). I left the body on the dining room table (which incidentally is the warmest room in the house).
When I returned to dispose of the body, it wasn't there. At first I thought the cat had dragged it off, but then a few minutes ago I found him slithering across the living room floor. I happily scooped him up and took a bunch of photos (and I'm about to email the seller to tell them it was a false alarm, haha).
So, looks like his name will have to reflect the whole "coming back to life thing", haha. My guess is, he was just very hypothermic and appeared to be dead. My only worry now is whether this will have lingering consequences, I'm thinking about tissue death and brain damage. But for now, I'm just going to be happy that the little guy made it.
If you have any name ideas, I'd like to hear them! Can't promise that I'll pick from your suggestions, but I'd appreciate you guys helping me brainstorm.
youngster
02-24-12, 06:20 PM
How about Zombie for a name? :)
Jenn_06
02-24-12, 06:22 PM
he should be good just get him nice and warm, when i lived in MI fedex never brought my snakes on time.
oh and congrats on the burm, he is so cute. and i like the name Zombie lol
CK SandBoas
02-24-12, 06:23 PM
I would go with "Miracle" as a name, since it was a miracle the little guy survived the trip in the weather:)
alessia55
02-24-12, 06:23 PM
Wow, what a scare! I'm glad he made it!! :) Milagro is miracle in Spanish ;)
Can't way to see pics as he grows up!
exwizard
02-24-12, 06:25 PM
I would go with "Miracle" as a name, since it was a miracle the little guy survived the trip in the weather:) I like this name for this snake. Im also glad he made it. :)
millertime89
02-24-12, 07:04 PM
Miracle, or Pheonix, if you're a Harry Potter person you could name him Fawks.
I was really sad at the beginning of the story, I'm really glad he survived. Get him in a 80+% humidity environment with a 92F hotspot to try and fight off a potential RI. My girl arrived yesterday and was really cool as well, although not nearly as cold as yours it seems and this is what I was recommended to do by the breeder. Keep us posted.
Spaghetti
02-24-12, 07:07 PM
Will do! I felt terrible leaving everybody hanging like that, after my original thread and promising to post pics the moment he was in my possession...but I couldn't post updates if the snake hadn't arrived yet, lol :)
In fact, here's an update right now: The little guy is happily curled up in his hide, in his nice warm enclosure. I'll try to keep the humidity up, thanks for the tip, millertime89!
millertime89
02-24-12, 07:23 PM
Lasting damage? Hopefully not as long as there's no RI.
The reason he didn't move when you first picked him up has to do with the fact that he's cold blooded. If he's too cold his internal systems begin to shut down and he couldn't respond. As he warmed up he regained control and was able to further search out heat.
millertime89
02-24-12, 07:26 PM
Get a fresh bag of cyprus mulch, it holds humidity REALLY well. When I first put it in a tub on top of some heat it takes quite a while for it to dissipate the humidity. Just put it right in and let the heat and the humidity do their work.
Kayla90
02-24-12, 07:35 PM
Yaay, I'm glad he made it :D
Whew. Glad he's ok. How about Lazarus for a name?
KORBIN5895
02-24-12, 08:15 PM
Whew. Glad he's ok. How about Lazarus for a name?
That was my suggestion!
Goof luck!
That was my suggestion!
Goof luck!
Jinx. You owe me a Coke.
KORBIN5895
02-24-12, 08:45 PM
Jinx. You owe me a Coke.
Hmhmhmhmmhhmh!
DragonsEye
02-24-12, 08:53 PM
I could have told you there'd be a snow storm today. There's an orchid show on MSU's campus this weekend. Orchid show + Michigan = snow storm. heh
Cute little bugger.
Lazarus has my vote.
I agree, risk of RI seems like your only likely concern to me. He didn't literally freeze, so there shouldn't be any tissue damage. Brain damage shouldn't be a problem either. Other concerns might be secondary issues due to stress (but with correct husbandry you should be able to help him overcome the stress rather quickly).
Enjoy him:)!
Im surprised the seller shipped the snake at this time of the year o.O
Miracle is a little cliche, feels like every "rescue" or similar storied animal is named miracle.. zombie is an awesome name, so is Lazarus, imo!
i read a story somewhere where somebody received a "dead" snake, and he went to his car (he picked it up at a delta air location) and sat int he car holding it in his hands for 20 minutes and it started to "come back to life"
i wouldnt be surprised if a few "not quite dead" snakes have been given up for dead and put in the freezer before they should have been :(
anyway, amazing he made it! glad hes healthy! etc etc! :D
hes gorgeous btw ;)
jaleely
02-25-12, 12:34 AM
That's really weird. Did you check for air..like breathing? lol
Talk about too tough to quit... reminds me of Ralph's Platinum Ball... Burmese are crazy resilient, It's no wonder they survive being abandoned... Glad he's doing well(looks hungry) and survived the ordeal. He's a good looking burm too! Funny how he just up and left the table after he was feeling better lol. I'd call him 1up or something more positive along those lines. Though I don't know who Lazarus is... Cool name as well depending on the character. Good luck with him!
exwizard
02-25-12, 07:13 AM
Im surprised the seller shipped the snake at this time of the year o.O
Miracle is a little cliche, feels like every "rescue" or similar storied animal is named miracle.. zombie is an awesome name, so is Lazarus, imo!
Ok you convinced me. I like "Lazarus" as well.
Lazarus would be my choice lol
KORBIN5895
02-25-12, 10:24 AM
Talk about too tough to quit... reminds me of Ralph's Platinum Ball... Burmese are crazy resilient, It's no wonder they survive being abandoned... Glad he's doing well(looks hungry) and survived the ordeal. He's a good looking burm too! Funny how he just up and left the table after he was feeling better lol. I'd call him 1up or something more positive along those lines. Though I don't know who Lazarus is... Cool name as well depending on the character. Good luck with him!
Lazarus us a man that Jesus resurrected from the dead.
Lazarus is also the name of my favorite Heinlein character.
Spaghetti
02-25-12, 10:51 AM
You guys have some great suggestions...I'd like to steer away from names mentioned in religious texts, though, as a matter of personal preference...though Lazarus does sound pretty cool. I'm trying to think of names too...I even thought of calling him Shepard, who is a video game character who beats death (if you're into the mass effect series, hehe).
Lankyrob
02-25-12, 12:28 PM
How about something along the line of Phoenix - i knwo snakey didnt exactly rise from the flames but he did kinda come back to life :)
You guys have some great suggestions...I'd like to steer away from names mentioned in religious texts, though, as a matter of personal preference...though Lazarus does sound pretty cool. I'm trying to think of names too...I even thought of calling him Shepard, who is a video game character who beats death (if you're into the mass effect series, hehe).
im in the same boat there
i love the mass effect reference, you could also go with..
Chrono (from chrono trigger)
Goku (twice in the series)
Shelob (the spider in LOTR that made frodo look like he was dead, but he ended up coming back when he was saved, i figured its a cooler name than frodo!)
I can probably think of others. hm...
Kiljosh
02-25-12, 07:03 PM
Lol name him Goku, he IS currently Super Saiyan!
millertime89
02-25-12, 07:23 PM
Im surprised the seller shipped the snake at this time of the year o.O
Miracle is a little cliche, feels like every "rescue" or similar storied animal is named miracle.. zombie is an awesome name, so is Lazarus, imo!
I'm not, everyone thinks that you won't be able to ship these starting March 23rd. If the weather was supposed to be nice its not THAT big of a risk. I know the midwest has been getting decent weather the past few days, that's why I got my girl this week too.
Burmese are crazy resilient, It's no wonder they survive being abandoned.
Not so much... The everglades just happened to be the exact environment that they need to survive and thrive. The majority of the snakes there came from one population that escaped an import/breeding facility that was wiped out during Hurricane Andrew in 1992. The Indian python is the one that is hardy and can survive further north, not that the USFWS and the USGS could figure that one out.
Lol name him Goku, he IS currently Super Saiyan!
Lol, I like Goku too if you're a DBZ fan.
I like Goku too, but for that matter call him Shenron. As for the burms in the everglade's I wasn't referencing that at all actually, just the number of burms found alive as escaped or abandoned pets throughout Canada and the US. They won't survive the winter, but compared to other snakes that never seem to turn up, burms sure do seem to survive longer then most. They are stronger then you think. The Indian Python is another sad story all on it's own, I sure wish they weren't regulated as harshly as they are, they're going to be in trouble shortly... Personally I would love a pair of Indian pythons... Such amazing snakes.
millertime89
02-25-12, 11:35 PM
Are Indians regulated in Canada? They're generally not differentiated in the US and molurus and bivittatus are almost always just lumped together in laws down here.
I would venture you hear more about those two is because they're not dumped nearly as often as other snakes, and other snakes aren't nearly as visible due to the size difference.
I'm not, everyone thinks that you won't be able to ship these starting March 23rd. If the weather was supposed to be nice its not THAT big of a risk. I know the midwest has been getting decent weather the past few days, that's why I got my girl this week too.
Not so much... The everglades just happened to be the exact environment that they need to survive and thrive. The majority of the snakes there came from one population that escaped an import/breeding facility that was wiped out during Hurricane Andrew in 1992. The Indian python is the one that is hardy and can survive further north, not that the USFWS and the USGS could figure that one out.
Lol, I like Goku too if you're a DBZ fan.
Why march 23rd?
the weather around this time (i checked for the last week and around the shipping arrival time) have all been expected to be ~25-30 degrees at night, thats too low.
I believe in the system (and why im still waiting for my snake from him) that david from rainbows-r-us has, in that he wont ship until there will be a few days in a row with AT LEAST 40 degree low temperatures at night (that's the big one, not day time..) between where he is and any ground stops along the way (which you can look up) he also only ships to fedex pickup locations because then you wont end up with delivery delays, just drive to fedex any time after 8 am and go pick it up in a building w/ heating, not sitting in a truck, where drivers tend to be pretty rough w/ packages (ive worked where i received packages all the time and they usually throw boxes around to find what theyre trying to deliver whether its fragile or not, they dont look)
I personally think that shipping any time before its expected to be at least 40 at night, you risk something like this happening. And for what? Getting the snake a little earlier? Probably more the breeder not having to care for it for another month or two..
IMO it was irresponsible to ship the poor animal at this time, as it showing up almost dead showed.
Its been mid 30's at night on and off lately, and suddenly today it snowed a lot (most it has all year) and its 10 degrees out right now despite being 45 during the day.. I wouldnt risk shipping a snake to me right now even though its definitely warm enough during the day lately..
Are Indians regulated in Canada? They're generally not differentiated in the US and molurus and bivittatus are almost always just lumped together in laws down here.
I would venture you hear more about those two is because they're not dumped nearly as often as other snakes, and other snakes aren't nearly as visible due to the size difference.
I wish I could find someone working with Indian Pythons in Canada, all are burmese over here. Regardless we usually have a 3meter rule imposed provincially almost everywhere now. Harder to get away with the latin name confusion with that... even SD retics can't be kept or bred. If an Indian Python ever did pop up you can be sure I'd try my best to get it, or at least more info on it. But I have yet to see anything in Canada about them. Can't get them from the states either so I'm probably outta luck for them. Put them on the list with the oenpelli I guess.
millertime89
02-27-12, 01:10 PM
Why march 23rd?
that's 60 days after the US Department of the Interior announced it would be adding the species to the list of injurious species. However they're still not on that list, and will no longer be able to be shipped 60 days after they're officially added to the list.
I wish I could find someone working with Indian Pythons in Canada, all are burmese over here. Regardless we usually have a 3meter rule imposed provincially almost everywhere now. Harder to get away with the latin name confusion with that... even SD retics can't be kept or bred. If an Indian Python ever did pop up you can be sure I'd try my best to get it, or at least more info on it. But I have yet to see anything in Canada about them. Can't get them from the states either so I'm probably outta luck for them. Put them on the list with the oenpelli I guess.
Why no SD retics? They don't break 8 feet and can be scientifically verified as different from the mainland localities.
exwizard
02-27-12, 03:26 PM
Why no SD retics? They don't break 8 feet and can be scientifically verified as different from the mainland localities.
Its possible that its the way the law was written, banning certain species regardless of size. Iowa has that with Retics, even the SDs just simply because they are Retics.
millertime89
02-27-12, 05:11 PM
stupid laws.
Glad to hear that the little one made it through despite his ordeal. I like Phoenix and Lazarus, those were the first two that came to mind. But seeing as they were already posted, what about Rip Van Winkle (Rip for short), he didn't rise from the dead but he did sleep for a heck of a long time, lol. Or there was also Osiris from Egyptian Mythology. Good luck picking a name.
moshirimon
05-27-12, 02:51 PM
the undead python. happy he ended up being okay. maybe name him Lucky?
dave himself
06-05-12, 06:30 PM
It's good to see a happy ending he,s a lovely wee burm I wish you all the best of luck with him :D
Reptilegal
06-06-12, 05:28 AM
Lucky, revivesco (Latin for 'come back to life'), milagro (Spanish for 'miracle')
Fredricks
06-06-12, 07:10 AM
What a great story. I'm so glad he was ok
marvelfreak
06-06-12, 07:19 PM
I think we need some pictures.
THE GREATEST STORY THIS MONTH! im happy that he resurrected
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