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beardeds4life
02-13-12, 09:10 AM
Ok so yesterday I bought crickets and superworms but the guy screwed up and gave me extra small crickts. That was a huge problem but I could do nothing about it. So yesterday I decided to feed him a bunch of superworms. This morning I saw her regurtitating undigested ones. Other than not feeding her any what should I do? Is she in danger of dieing? I thought she was big enough...

Valvaren
02-13-12, 09:57 AM
How big is your dragon first off? I wouldn't mind seeing a picture of her just to get an idea of her size. I haven't had to experience a dragon reguring so i'm not sure if its similar to snakes in the sense that it causes them a lot of issues.

I would say a vet visit myself just encase anything is wrong to cause her to be sick, a fecal would do even. Maybe wait a bit, bath her and try to get her to flush her system so anything else left in their wont continue to upset her.

I would direct you to someone I know that would be able to help you immensely on this but she isn't on this forum so I'll wait to see what others have shed.

For now think about the fecal, wait a day or two and then try feeding her small amounts of smaller food. Possibly just veggies for a bit to make sure she isn't going to regur them too.

youngster
02-13-12, 10:14 AM
I would ask this question on beardeddragon.org I think you'll get more answers than here.

Jay
02-13-12, 10:19 AM
^^ Hey now, did you disregard the perfect answer above you?

SpOoKy
02-13-12, 10:28 AM
Double check you temps and make sure she has a proper basking temp to digest, 105+ surface temp. Has anything changed around her? surroundings? have you changed anything else besides the diet? I would leave her alone for a day or too, make sure she is getting plenty of heat. Try to offer a little bit of water through a dropper (drop it on her nose and she should lick it up.

theapexgerman
02-13-12, 11:28 AM
I wish I can help but I got snakes only for now maybe the basking spot isn't hot enof like the previous post said

beardeds4life
02-13-12, 04:42 PM
Thank you so much I will take your advice and I can do a fecal exam myself (im a science junkie) but I will definitely make an account on beardeddragon.org and ask there.

Update-I just got home and there are a lot more everywhere and some half digested crickets from saturday.

Valvaren
02-13-12, 05:42 PM
Yeah I would deff talk to Tracie, and look into getting a fecal and as stated by Spooky look into your temps, could be that it might be too hot causing her to not want to bask, or not hot enough where she isn't getting enough heat to digest. Other then that it might be something upsetting her stomach on a more serious side.

beardeds4life
02-13-12, 11:48 PM
I have come to the conclusion that my husbandry is fine and a fecal is not necessary (though I still want to do one because like I said im a science junkie just have to find an extra 150 for a new microscope because i dont like the one I have...) but that 13 inches was to small for supers. I must have remembered 13 instead of 16 but whatever. Tomorrow she will go back on her regular diet and if she regurges that (she probably wont) then I will have a problem.

Valvaren
02-14-12, 09:06 AM
Wouldn't you rather have a second opinion encase you over looked something. I would think you would rather be absolutely sure everything is fine instead of letting your dragon have to experience that again in order to get the problem fixed.

SpOoKy
02-14-12, 09:09 AM
but that 13 inches was to small for supers. I must have remembered 13 instead of 16 but whatever. Tomorrow she will go back on her regular diet and if she regurges that (she probably wont) then I will have a problem.

I don't get the 13 inches, 16 inches?
I agree with Valvaren, how do you know you wont miss something?

Norm66
02-14-12, 09:15 AM
Not helpful, but when I read the title of the OP I think....

just put your finger down your throat.

Sorry.

youngster
02-14-12, 09:16 AM
I don't get the 13 inches, 16 inches?

Minimum size for supers is 16 inches. She was thinking 13 by accident so they were too big.

beardeds4life
02-14-12, 11:29 PM
Im a he :) and what do you mean by second opinion? There is a possibility I could miss something but that would mean th levels were so low it would not do any harm. Tracie also backs me up on this.

ladyjustice33
02-15-12, 09:49 PM
Im a he :) and what do you mean by second opinion? There is a possibility I could miss something but that would mean th levels were so low it would not do any harm. Tracie also backs me up on this.

Tracie is fantastic and so is Barbara!

SpOoKy
02-15-12, 09:54 PM
Im a he and what do you mean by second opinion? There is a possibility I could miss something but that would mean th levels were so low it would not do any harm. Tracie also backs me up on this.

|I just mean when checking the fecal. Not sure if there is more then one thing to look for. Honestly I don't know what they look for so even if I tried I wouldn't know what I was looking at.
Does that make sense??? It does in my head but doesn't seem to flow right.

How is your beardie doing since?

SpOoKy
02-15-12, 09:55 PM
Minimum size for supers is 16 inches. She was thinking 13 by accident so they were too big.

16 inches is really big, I don't think that is right. If so I want to get some of these nearly foot and a hlf worms. they would go much farther feeding :)

Valvaren
02-15-12, 10:11 PM
16 inchs for the dragon to safe be able to eat them is what Eli meant.

Dragons under 16 tend to have more complications when eating them then dragons over that size.

SpOoKy
02-16-12, 08:41 PM
16 inchs for the dragon to safe be able to eat them is what Eli meant.

Dragons under 16 tend to have more complications when eating them then dragons over that size.

Ohhh, I get it. I never heard that, good to know.

beardeds4life
02-17-12, 09:14 AM
|I just mean when checking the fecal. Not sure if there is more then one thing to look for. Honestly I don't know what they look for so even if I tried I wouldn't know what I was looking at.
Does that make sense??? It does in my head but doesn't seem to flow right.

How is your beardie doing since?

she is doing great and if I see anything out of the ordinary I will sent a sample in and that kind of makes sense

ladyjustice33
02-18-12, 02:45 PM
Hope your baby is doing good today!!!!

youngster
02-18-12, 03:03 PM
Whoops so sorry, I've always thought you were a girl for some reason :p

beardeds4life
02-18-12, 08:23 PM
Hope your baby is doing good today!!!!

she is doing great whenever i go in the room she is in it always shocks me how horrible there poop smells and i cant figure out how to get the whole room not smelling like animal :suspicious:

SpOoKy
02-18-12, 08:26 PM
she is doing great whenever i go in the room she is in it always shocks me how horrible there poop smells and i cant figure out how to get the whole room not smelling like animal

Daily spot cleaning, just remove the poop as quick as you can afterwards.
Glad she is doing better :)

Valvaren
02-18-12, 10:09 PM
I would really suggest getting a fecal, Thil's poo is never that bad to leave a whole room smelling and it was never gag worthy for me and I have trouble cleaning out the cats litter.

I once babysat a beardie who had had parasites while I had him and he really stunk up the room. Please take a sample to the vet just to confirm everything is 100% with her.

ladyjustice33
02-19-12, 12:32 AM
My males poo smelled really bad......my daughter and I walked in the door after being gone most of the day and the kid got it right when she said wow it smells worse than a petting zoo in here...lol! I wasn't able to get a fecal before their last vet check-up but my vet said to go ahead and worm them with panacur. Reptiles tolerate panacur very well and mine have displayed no side effects. We use it for our snakes and geckos as well. My husband worms all new snakes while they are in quarantine and we have never had a snake have a bad reaction to it. I will still be bringing a fecal in as soon as I am able to. A lot of people frown on worming without the fecal first but it has worked just fine for us and all my reptiles are healthy and my vet is fine with it.

beardeds4life
02-19-12, 09:55 AM
ya I was actually going to worm her with panacur but decided that i would get a lot of hate if I did it without doing the fecal first and that was a bit of an exaggeration and it stinks up the room because i am gone all day so when i get home it has been in there for a long time

beardeds4life
02-19-12, 10:11 AM
I would really suggest getting a fecal, Thil's poo is never that bad to leave a whole room smelling and it was never gag worthy for me and I have trouble cleaning out the cats litter.

I once babysat a beardie who had had parasites while I had him and he really stunk up the room. Please take a sample to the vet just to confirm everything is 100% with her.

I am doing a fecal myself and I might send one to a good friend who has been keeping dragons for 35 years and has always done fecals herself and never had a problem and she used to work for a vet and did the vets fecals.