Carpet Python Breeding Questions...

[Xanafein]

I am Very Curious, About the Steps Taken To Successfully Breed Carpet Pythons, When to do it,the best methods, natural vs artificial incubation, and most importantly Appropriate Size and weight for Females


I Have a Female Who i Believe is getting Close to the right Size

She is Approx 51.5 Inches Long, and at her widest the same diameter as a Kennedy half Dollar, I am going to be purchasing a scale soon to attempt to get more accurate weight readings, She Is According to the store i got her from a few months passed two years of age

I Intened To Cross her with a Chondro, A certain Biak Male, I know hybrids are not for everyone, and are also not easy to breed, but I love the look of the Biak Jungle Crosses I have Seen, and hope to produce a few spectacular specimens of my own

The Male Is approx 42 Inches, Weight unknown, Age Approximated at 2.5 years

I will Be uploading some images soon of the carpet, taken with things like my laptop and a door for size reference

My biggest concern is her health and Safety, As she Is my First and most beautiful Carpet and also kinda my favorite (Shhhhhh Dont tell my retic ;) )

a Diamond Jungle Intergrade of unknown Origin

[youngster]

I think with carpets you have to wait longer to breed.

I *think* 4 years old is the safe zone.

[Xanafein]

Ive heard two is youngest, but it depends on weight, and that three is the norm, but the information available if not the best, Im hoping shaun or someone else with more experience than me can help out :D

[shaunyboy]

I am Very Curious, About the Steps Taken To Successfully Breed Carpet Pythons, When to do it,the best methods, natural vs artificial incubation, and most importantly Appropriate Size and weight for Females


I Have a Female Who i Believe is getting Close to the right Size

She is Approx 51.5 Inches Long, and at her widest the same diameter as a Kennedy half Dollar, I am going to be purchasing a scale soon to attempt to get more accurate weight readings, She Is According to the store i got her from a few months passed two years of age

I Intened To Cross her with a Chondro, A certain Biak Male, I know hybrids are not for everyone, and are also not easy to breed, but I love the look of the Biak Jungle Crosses I have Seen, and hope to produce a few spectacular specimens of my own

The Male Is approx 42 Inches, Weight unknown, Age Approximated at 2.5 years

I will Be uploading some images soon of the carpet, taken with things like my laptop and a door for size reference

My biggest concern is her health and Safety, As she Is my First and most beautiful Carpet and also kinda my favorite (Shhhhhh Dont tell my retic ;) )

a Diamond Jungle Intergrade of unknown Origin

just over 2 years old is too young to breed a female carpet mate

can you take a picture next to a sky tv remote control as that will give us an idea of her size

if a females large enough you can try her at 3 years of age but.....

that said i personally wait until they are 4 years old

i judge mine by sight as i have never wieghed any of my carpets

a male carpet will sexually mature a lot quicker and can be used in breeding a lot younger

the male does not have the hassle of carrying/laying eggs,so age is not really an issue.at worst he will not be sexually mature and contain no viable sperm

i am in the uk so have no idea of the size of a kennedy dollar mate

but 51 inch is not very long for a carpet,it sounds like she's about 2 years old (way too young to breed)

re incubation
imo,you will have more success with an incubator than you would maternal incubation

re chondro x carpet
i have seen some really stunning looking capondro's,that said theres a good few ugly drab,dirty dull looking ones about

iv'e seen some amazing looking jagpondro's as well

i have no problem with folk creating them

cheers shaun

[Xanafein]

Well, She Is aproximately 2 years 1-2 months of age, uncertain as she was a lucky petshop find

i will find a remoate to place her next to, but probs not a sky xD

[shaunyboy]

Ive heard two is youngest, but it depends on weight, and that three is the norm, but the information available if not the best, Im hoping shaun or someone else with more experience than me can help out :D

imo,you might get a male to successfully breed at 2 years old,but NOT a female mate

a big female can be bred at 3 years old,but these are the exceptions rather than the rule

i breed mine at 4 years and older

that said if i had a particulary large 3 year old female i may consider it.to date thats never happened though

imo,if a females too small they tend to produce very small clutches or slug out.

worse case scenario they become egg bound,which can lead to all sorts of trouble,even death

cheers shaun

[shaunyboy]

Well, She Is aproximately 2 years 1-2 months of age, uncertain as she was a lucky petshop find

i will find a remoate to place her next to, but probs not a sky xD

look forward to your pictures mate

shes too young to breed though

unless shes a particularly large female,then imo your looking at brumating (cooling cycle) her the end of 2013,with a view to breeding january 2014

cheers shaun

[Xanafein]

Well it is diffucult to get good pictures of her but i did my best

Door, remote, and a 12"x10" lap top

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-8M4FYUh6HuM/Ty146L6sPII/AAAAAAAAABk/mGt9lGLX8ZU/w409-h545-k/2012-02-04
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-FrGZYKRnGzE/Ty1427xtyJI/AAAAAAAAABQ/W8wrqNhdiyg/s512/2012-02-04

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-wX0JoeAt__s/Ty14w7iiLQI/AAAAAAAAAA8/OfbarWprUh0/s512/2012-02-04

She isnt the most cooperative snake but that is her

Also, I have heard that as green trees are much smaller than carpets, the female carpet can be bred smaller safely, but i have no way to back that up

Regardless, from what you are telling me its lookin like 2013 it is

Also, the thick bit of the door there is 1 inch exactly

[shaunyboy]

Well it is diffucult to get good pictures of her but i did my best

Door, remote, and a 12"x10" lap top

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-8M4FYUh6HuM/Ty146L6sPII/AAAAAAAAABk/mGt9lGLX8ZU/w409-h545-k/2012-02-04
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-FrGZYKRnGzE/Ty1427xtyJI/AAAAAAAAABQ/W8wrqNhdiyg/s512/2012-02-04

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-wX0JoeAt__s/Ty14w7iiLQI/AAAAAAAAAA8/OfbarWprUh0/s512/2012-02-04

She isnt the most cooperative snake but that is her

Also, I have heard that as green trees are much smaller than carpets, the female carpet can be bred smaller safely, but i have no way to back that up

Regardless, from what you are telling me its lookin like 2013 it is

Also, the thick bit of the door there is 1 inch exactly


she's a nice healthy looking carpet mate,but no where near breeding size

imo it won't make any difference if its a small male chondro you use,as she will produce carpet sized eggs

small females when bred tend to produce very small clutches or slug out

you also run the risk of her getting egg bound

cheers shaun

[Xanafein]

Alrighty Shaun, Thank You Soooooo Much for the Advice, Ill Get her and the rest of my Morelia updated profiles soon, from what you've told me i think waiting about a year and a half should do the trick

And i didnt mean in respect to the male size, I meant that i had heard that carpondro Eggs tend to be smaller than true blood carpet eggs where

Regardless ill go tell sweetheart she can't date for a year or two

[Terranaut]

Yup. Good idea to wait. She isn't near big enough yet. But that gives you a year and change to get your information together ;)

[millertime89]

too young, too small, and don't take this the wrong way, but there are so many average looking carpets around, people shouldn't be breeding more unless they're willing to sell them for a low price. And although you may love your girl, she looks like an average Diamond Jungle Jag.

[Xanafein]

To be clear, those photos are awfull, she looks far better than that, her colors are washed out, and the images are blurry because of her movement Her Blacks are velvet, And her yellows while they could be brighter are nothin to be snuffed at :P but i can see why you would think shes not that bright since i took the pictures with an old flip phone

also

She has no jag in her at all and im not sure where you got that from

and i have yet to see a below average diamond jungle

Plus im not breeding her with a carpet, Im Breeding her with a Biak Green Tree python

and i agree that carpets should only be bred for beauty wich is why i try to accumulate stunning specimens

[marvelfreak]

I think you should get some really sweet babies out of that pairing. I say wait a year and see how big she is then decided if she big enough. Right now she to small.

[Xanafein]

That is what i have decided, I will Be getting a new camera soon Enough, then she will really shine


Ive gotta try and get pictures of my retic to....


so many things to do...

[UwabamiReptiles]

That should be a good project, just try to get some more size to her this year and take it from there. Can't wait to see better pics.

[shaunyboy]

too young, too small, and don't take this the wrong way, but there are so many average looking carpets around, people shouldn't be breeding more unless they're willing to sell them for a low price. And although you may love your girl, she looks like an average Diamond Jungle Jag.

she may be a diamond intergrade as said by the op,but shes NOT a jag,she doesn't have the pattern mutation

she could be a diamond jungle jag sib,so does not carry the jag co dom gene

cheers shaun

[millertime89]

yeah, I thought I read Diamond Jag integrade way up top, my bad, def get better pictures.

[Slitherinsnake6]

can anyone tell me what the ideal conditions are for incubation of jungle carpet eggs? or ideal conditions for the female to incubate herself. my enclosure is typically around 77 to 83 degrees f. i believe my female is gravid and would really like to try to get a good clutch but i am very new to this. never owned this type of snake until just recently and could use all the help i can get.

[shaunyboy]

can anyone tell me what the ideal conditions are for incubation of jungle carpet eggs? or ideal conditions for the female to incubate herself. my enclosure is typically around 77 to 83 degrees f. i believe my female is gravid and would really like to try to get a good clutch but i am very new to this. never owned this type of snake until just recently and could use all the help i can get.

jungle incubation temperatures

maternal incubation the enclosure sould be around 30c

incubator temperature 31.5c

moniter the temps with a probe in the actual egg containers

cheers shaun

[Slitherinsnake6]

thanks my friend. appreciate the info