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exwizard
01-27-12, 05:14 PM
Its been 7 months since Carl passed away but reading certain threads here made him come to mind again.

A little history...

February 14, about the same time I bought the 4 shelf 37 qt AP rack, I also bought Carl. He was a deep, bright Bloodred Stripe Corn and I only paid $25 for him. I didnt even know what I had or how rare he was until after I got him. Another Corn breeder after seeing the attached pic, he was like "A Bloodred Stripe?!?!?! Where did you get that beast?!" In that conversation, he convinced me to breed him. Thats why I bought Schatzi. The idea was to produce triple het normals. Then after a few years breed 2 of the offspring together to a produce in one clutch a Christmas assortment of morphs to ultimately end up with a Fire Stripe which is triple homozygous for Amelanistic, Bloodred and Stripe. After a few months we noticed him losing weight so shortly after originally acquiring Schatzi I took him to the vet who told me to increase his feeding to every week instead of every other week. I did exactly that but it did no good. He did not make it and on June 27, he passed away. On another forum, the same day, I posted an obit type of thread and this is what I said there...

"Carl my bloodred stripe corn passed away today suddenly and for unknown reasons. He had been underweight so I took him to the vet for a checkup to see what I would need to do to get his weight up in time for breeding season next year. The vet said his feeding needed to be every week instead of every other week and that is what I did since. Last week he did not eat so we waited until this week in which I gave him a pinky. Today the pinky was still in there but Carl had already died. Im still stunned by it all but I thought Id post this and say Im sorry Tony. Not sure what happened but I will make good on my breeding promise to you somehow."

I sold Schatzi a few months after that to pay for the pair of IJs I now have but when I got her back, I was thrilled. Somehow, some way, sometime, I will follow through with these breeding plans, just with another male but it must be with a male thats at least on par with Carl.

alessia55
01-27-12, 05:18 PM
That's a sad story... Wish there'd been something you could've done. He sure was gorgeous though!! You should post more pics of him if you have any

exwizard
01-27-12, 05:19 PM
Thank you for your reply. Thats the only pic I have of him. I wish I had more.

Swany
01-27-12, 05:37 PM
Lovely loooking snake Wizard. Sorry things panned out the way they did.

exwizard
01-27-12, 05:42 PM
Thank you. You know whats funny? I never even liked Corns or Colubrids in general until I bought Carl. He has definitely had his influence on me.

Trent
01-27-12, 05:49 PM
Very nice snake and sorry for your loss.

Norm66
01-27-12, 06:23 PM
Very sad. My very late condolences.

exwizard
01-27-12, 06:26 PM
Thank you both. I was so glad to get Schatzi back even though Carl was gone. Even though my breeding plans are on hold with her, I can still enjoy her as a pet as well.

DragonsEye
01-27-12, 06:38 PM
He was absolutely gorgeous. I would love to have a corn with his coloring but have little doubt it would be far beyond my means ($25 was a sweet deal). My condolences on your loss. I take it the cause of death was never determined?

kernel
01-28-12, 08:41 AM
Sorry to hear that. Bloodred stripes are one of the most beautiful morphs and aren't cheap either.

marvelfreak
01-28-12, 08:45 AM
So sorry for your lose. At least he live on in your heart and memories.

CK SandBoas
01-28-12, 08:48 AM
Carl was absolutely gorgeous, i am so sorry you lost him:(

Shmoges
01-28-12, 08:54 AM
Pretty snake I am sorry you lost him. I have a question for you. If the snake would be ready for breeding season next year why did you only offer a pinky? Rat pink or mouse thats to small for an adult corn, unless you were just trying to get something easy and small down his mouth? I have a motley bloodred male I could stud out for you if you are interested? Its the same gene as stripe I am told and I believe he is het anery after breeding him to our snow and anery and we got normals and aneries from both cluthes.

http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af309/Shmoges/Corns/IMG_0731.jpg

http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af309/Shmoges/Corns/IMG_0021-4.jpg

http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af309/Shmoges/Corns/Photo0155.jpg

http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af309/Shmoges/Corns/Photo0156.jpg

exwizard
01-28-12, 09:46 AM
Thank you all for your responses. It was hard having these memories come fresh in my mind yesterday so I had to put it in words.

Pretty snake I am sorry you lost him. I have a question for you. If the snake would be ready for breeding season next year why did you only offer a pinky? Rat pink or mouse thats to small for an adult corn, unless you were just trying to get something easy and small down his mouth? I have a motley bloodred male I could stud out for you if you are interested? Its the same gene as stripe I am told and I believe he is het anery after breeding him to our snow and anery and we got normals and aneries from both cluthes.

http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af309/Shmoges/Corns/IMG_0731.jpg

http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af309/Shmoges/Corns/IMG_0021-4.jpg

http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af309/Shmoges/Corns/Photo0155.jpg

http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af309/Shmoges/Corns/Photo0156.jpg

Yeah I would love to breed Schatzi to your motley. That would be awesome. Im just not sure about the logistics of it all considering you are in Colorado Springs and I am in Des Moines. We can discuss details on all that if you like. Im not ruling it out and I appreciate the offer.

As far as why the pinkie (and it was a rat pinkie since I prefer to feed my snakes rats. There is just more to them than mice), Carl had been on weaner rats and when he regurged I reduced his feed size to rat pups (20-29g). He was ok with that until the week before he passed away when he refused his meal. The week later when I offered the pinkie, it was because I wanted to see if he would actually take this considering the prior week, plus the pinkie was injured from a mom fight and it needed to get fed off.

Shmoges
01-28-12, 09:54 AM
Yeah I was just checking, I was like naw hes not feeding an adult corn only pinkies but I couldn't resist asking. We feed ours weaned rats as well. Pm me and we can talk details.

DragonsEye
01-28-12, 11:13 AM
Beautiful snake there Shmoges!

kernel
01-28-12, 11:39 AM
Pretty snake I am sorry you lost him. I have a question for you. If the snake would be ready for breeding season next year why did you only offer a pinky? Rat pink or mouse thats to small for an adult corn, unless you were just trying to get something easy and small down his mouth? I have a motley bloodred male I could stud out for you if you are interested? Its the same gene as stripe I am told and I believe he is het anery after breeding him to our snow and anery and we got normals and aneries from both cluthes.

http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af309/Shmoges/Corns/IMG_0731.jpg

http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af309/Shmoges/Corns/IMG_0021-4.jpg

http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af309/Shmoges/Corns/Photo0155.jpg

http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af309/Shmoges/Corns/Photo0156.jpg




That is a beautiful snake! That snake has the best of both worlds, bloodred (my favorite color morph) and motley (my favorite pattern morph)

exwizard
01-28-12, 11:40 AM
Yeah I was just checking, I was like naw hes not feeding an adult corn only pinkies but I couldn't resist asking. We feed ours weaned rats as well. Pm me and we can talk details.

Ok will do. Thnx.

exwizard
01-28-12, 11:44 AM
He was absolutely gorgeous. I would love to have a corn with his coloring but have little doubt it would be far beyond my means ($25 was a sweet deal). My condolences on your loss. I take it the cause of death was never determined?

Youre right. By the time I discovered him dead, he was already starting to smell so he went into the freezer right away. Of course the downside to that is that he was frozen, I couldnt get a necropsy done so I still dont know why he got sick or just what it was that made him sick.

DragonsEye
01-28-12, 01:16 PM
Youre right. By the time I discovered him dead, he was already starting to smell so he went into the freezer right away. Of course the downside to that is that he was frozen, I couldnt get a necropsy done so I still dont know why he got sick or just what it was that made him sick.

IMO, THAT is probably the most frustrating situation. At least when you can determine the cause of death you can tell yourself "Well I know now not to do this or that".

exwizard
01-28-12, 02:24 PM
Yes I agree, but my guess is that he was already sick when I got him. I dont know his history since he had already changed hands 3 or 4 times before I got him. Yet another reason none of my snakes are going anywhere. This isnt the only time Ive seen snakes deteriorate healthwise when they get passed around.