irian jaya

[shaunyboy]

specific line bred high yellow reduced pattern F2 irian jaya 2010
male
http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq17/spilota01/new%20pictures/P1000698.jpg
http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq17/spilota01/new%20pictures/P1000723.jpg
female
http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq17/spilota01/diamond%20tank/P1000252.jpg
http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq17/spilota01/diamond%20tank/P1000243.jpg

cheers shaun

[Lankyrob]

Beautiful as always mate!! That female just glows!!

[spots]

Wow Shaun you have some of the most beautiful snakes my eyes have ever seen.

[whoaxmary]

Veery pretty Shaun. :)

[Norm66]

Awesome snake Shaun. :)

[Nismo89]

Beautiful snake you have there. What does the F2 stand for?

[marvelfreak]

Wow with the reduce pattern at first glance she almost look like a Jag. That is one super sweet looking Irain Jaya.

[shaunyboy]

Beautiful snake you have there. What does the F2 stand for?

theres 2 different snakes pictured,male and female;)

re F2
when you breed 2 UNRELATED snakes,the hatchlings are called F1's

when you breed 2 x F1's ,brother and sister

you get F2'S

in my case these F2's,will be bred again to produce F3's

in a specific line breeding project you take the best examples of each clutch/generation and breed them back to each other

this strengthens the trait you are line breeding for

in my case its their high yellow and reduced patterns

i'm hoping by F3 or F4 the hatchlings will be a very high quality yellow,with good looking reduced patterns

in short
F1 = first generation
F2 = 2nd generation
F3 = 3rd generation

and so on,carpets imo can be bred to F4,F5 with no birth abnormalitys or any other type of problems

cheers shaun

[Coffee Black]

Great animals !

[Norm66]

That's interesting about the generational lingo. With fish F2 means generations removed from wild caught but I knew it had to be something different with Aussie snakes. Thanks for the info.

[shaunyboy]

That's interesting about the generational lingo. With fish F2 means generations removed from wild caught but I knew it had to be something different with Aussie snakes. Thanks for the info.


the F1,F2,F3,etc applys to all snakes norm,not just the ozzy ones ;)

snake wise,using wild caught or unrelated captive bred parents and its the same as your fish mate:D

cheers shaun

[Caylan]

That male is really cool, love the reduced pattern with still a nice irian jaya influence! They really are almost jags lol. ~Caylan.S.~

[shaunyboy]

the sir and dam,that started this specific line breeding project,belong to Ron Winkler of holland.

i had the F2's brought over directly from Ron in 2010

many thanks for all your kind comments folks

cheers shaun

[Jay]

Nice I just picked up an ij, not nearly as nice a yours though.

[Terranaut]

Very nice. Next gen is gonna be awsome stunning.

[Norm66]

I meant that no more Aussie snakes are w/c and imported. ;)

[shaunyboy]

I meant that no more Aussie snakes are w/c and imported. ;)

unless your from germany and know the right people;)

after lengthy paperwork there are now rough scaled carpet pythons (morelia carinata) in europe

once they're old enough to put out hatchlings,just wait and see how many illegal roughies hit the european market norm ;)

terry philps of the reptile gardens in the usa,has already bred these,after the ozzy government gave him a breeding pair a few years back

germany seems to be able to get ANYTHING they want from oz mate,they've had albino carpets for years for example:D

the likes of you and i norm,have been banned from exporting from oz,since 1982

theres a very reveered old GENTLMEN here in the uk,that has some wonderfull ozzy stuff,even a pair of PURE darwin carpet pythons.all his australian stuff has the highest provinance backing it up.

as always,its down to who you know mate (sadly i don't know them,lol)

cheers shaun

[millertime89]

terry philps of the reptile gardens in the usa,has already bred these,after the ozzy government gave him a breeding pair a few years back

really?! I'm gonna be up there in a few months, I'm gonna have to get in touch with him.

edit: well what do ya know, he's got a picture of one on the site, gonna have to email him.
Non Venomous Snakes | Snake Facts | Reptile Gardens (http://www.reptilegardens.com/reptiles/snakes/non-venomous.php)
and its Terry Phillip
Terry Phillip | Venomous Snake Expert | Reptile Gardens (http://www.reptilegardens.com/about-us/team/terry.php)

[Terranaut]

really?! I'm gonna be up there in a few months, I'm gonna have to get in touch with him.

edit: well what do ya know, he's got a picture of one on the site, gonna have to email him.
Non Venomous Snakes | Snake Facts | Reptile Gardens (http://www.reptilegardens.com/reptiles/snakes/non-venomous.php)
and its Terry Phillip
Terry Phillip | Venomous Snake Expert | Reptile Gardens (http://www.reptilegardens.com/about-us/team/terry.php)
Same picture but huge
http://www.reptilegardens.com/gallery/plog-content/images/reptiles/snakes/python-roughscale-mouth.jpg

[shaunyboy]

really?! I'm gonna be up there in a few months, I'm gonna have to get in touch with him.

edit: well what do ya know, he's got a picture of one on the site, gonna have to email him.
Non Venomous Snakes | Snake Facts | Reptile Gardens (http://www.reptilegardens.com/reptiles/snakes/non-venomous.php)
and its Terry Phillip
Terry Phillip | Venomous Snake Expert | Reptile Gardens (http://www.reptilegardens.com/about-us/team/terry.php)


terry's a really decent guy mate

i e mailed him and he took the time to send me back all the details of his work with roughies

terrys site
Home | Black Hills Pythons | Rapid City, South Dakota (http://www.blackhillspythons.com/)

i'd be grabbing a pair if you can mate ;)

theyre easy to keep and breed and a very unusual piece of morelia

cheers shaun

[shaunyboy]

Same picture but huge
http://www.reptilegardens.com/gallery/plog-content/images/reptiles/snakes/python-roughscale-mouth.jpg

i'm pretty sure thats only a hatchling in that picture mate

their teeth are awsome :shocked:

cheers shaun

[millertime89]

fantastic picture there Terranaut, I'm emailing him now. Thanks for the link Shaun.

[shaunyboy]

fantastic picture there Terranaut, I'm emailing him now. Thanks for the link Shaun.

please let me know how it goes mate

fingers crossed you end up with a pair of roughies;)

cheers shaun

[millertime89]

please let me know how it goes mate

fingers crossed you end up with a pair of roughies;)

cheers shaun

Oh yeah, we'll see what happens. Still haven't gotten a response

[exwizard]

Wow this pair looks a lot like my own! Awesome!

[shaunyboy]

Wow this pair looks a lot like my own! Awesome!

can you please post some pictures mate ?

i've found irians patterns differ so much,especially some of the wild caught irians i've seen

cheers shaun

[exwizard]

can you please post some pictures mate ?

i've found irians patterns differ so much,especially some of the wild caught irians i've seen

cheers shaun Ok I only have a few but here goes. The first 2 pics are of Mick and the second 2 are of Sheila. Sorry I dont have more or better pics but I need to wait until the weather warms up before taking them outside again.

[shaunyboy]

i love the way the natural sunlight really brings the colours out in that last picture mate

look forward to more pic's once the weathers better;)

cheers shaun

[exwizard]

Ty more pics are planned. Right now its 15F (abt -9C) outside so thats not possible yet but it is coming.

[millertime89]

hey Shaun, I got a response, as long as I give him a few weeks notice he'll be able to set something up so I can see them up close. We'll see just how close :D

[alessia55]

Same picture but huge
http://www.reptilegardens.com/gallery/plog-content/images/reptiles/snakes/python-roughscale-mouth.jpg

this photo is AMAZING! :shocked: