Some more ATBs

[Mose]

Here are my planned pairs for the upcoming season.
First pair:
Female
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6125/5928945304_352283d471_z.jpg
Male
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6054/6360231757_ef28945dc8_z.jpg

Second pair:
Female
http://www.iherp.com/Gallery/91331/75503_174860_Large_MfFwpsEueQn.jpg
Male
http://www.iherp.com/Gallery/91331/79078_174866_Large_BA7SUA5a3NucjB.jpg

or possibly this male, I haven't decided yet.
http://www.iherp.com/Gallery/91331/64489_174916_Large_ApIyKUk8HG.jpg

[alessia55]

That first female and the second male make me go :eek: !!

[jdavy]

I like the second female best. Nice atb's!

[Mose]

I like the second female best. Nice atb's!

When she's wrapped around a branch completely like in the first photo of her, she looks predominantly yellow. But when she hangs off, you see that her color shifts from yellow along her spine, to orange on her sides, and then to red along her belly.
http://www.iherp.com/Gallery/91331/75503_164686_Large_H8vPzGSaxp2MZL.jpg
She was also deep in shed in this picture, which darkens her up quite a bit.

[snake man12]

I like the first one. Is it any specific morph?

[youngster]

I like the first one. Is it any specific morph?

I have no idea so someone correct me, but I think that's a garden :)

[Mose]

I like the first one. Is it any specific morph?

Not a morph, just a unique color. Green is one of the least common colors seen in ATBs. I've seen hundreds of pictures of ATBs, and I can count the number of green specimens I've seen on one hand. The green ones are usually some shade of olive green, not lime green like GTPs or ETBs. "Normal" Amazons are loosely divided into two groups based on their color: "Colored" = any combination of yellow, orange, and red, and "garden phase" = any color not yellow, orange or red, which mostly leaves any shade of brown or gray (earth tones). Olive green is usually considered an earthtone, so Youngster is right, she is considered a garden phase.

The only two morphs are tiger (stripes running from head to tail along spine) and leopard (spots that are round or oval). The tiger morph is dominant, and I believe the leopard morph is recessive.

[millertime89]

I love that olive, never seen one before. The female in that pairing almost looks olive too.

[jaleely]

Do you have any younger photos of the first female? I'd be interested in her color changes. I love the first male too...Actually that first pair is worth keeping an eye on ;)

[Mose]

@millertime89-the female is a really dark olive drab color, much like an anaconda. The male is more the color of an actual green olive, with some gray mixed in.

@jaleely-I got both of them as adults, so I don't have any baby pics of them. There's no way to tell what either of them looked like when they were younger. And there is no guarantee what any of their offspring would look like, because color inheritance is completely unpredictable in ATBs.

[lady_bug87]

I think thats the nice thing about ATBs is that you never know what you may get from any pairing or what they look like as adults..

I just have one question if a neonate starts off as a garden phase can it turn red or orange as it matures? (I am pretty unfamiliar with the species)

[Mose]

I think thats the nice thing about ATBs is that you never know what you may get from any pairing or what they look like as adults..
Agreed!

I just have one question if a neonate starts off as a garden phase can it turn red or orange as it matures? (I am pretty unfamiliar with the species)
It depends on the individual. Here is a little neonate I sold a while back. Most people would consider it a "garden", but it has enough orange in it that it might have grown to have a considerable amount of orange as an adult. It would NOT mature into a screaming, solid orange though. The change isn't that drastic.

http://www.iherp.com/Gallery/91331/68450_154269_Large_vcihEK4lRZtYm1a.jpg

A garden like this one, however, will never become orange.
http://www.iherp.com/Gallery/91331/64488_154280_Large_xp1iID8bx7GsBmB.jpg

[lady_bug87]

Ah ok I see still.. I think an atb will be the next arboreal snake I get I love how varied their pattens are... Maybe in the future lol like I said in a other post my "to get" list is very long

[ding ding]

stunning snakes ya have there mate. Cant wait til mine grow up...

[BurmeseGuy]

Awesome pictures...just WOW

[Norm66]

Beautiful. Thanks for sharing.

[BarelyBreathing]

Oh my gosh, I'm obsessing over the garden male. WOW!

[Trent]

Awesome pics!!

[Mose]

Oh my gosh, I'm obsessing over the garden male. WOW!
Here's another shot of him.http://www.iherp.com/Gallery/91331/68839_207233_VeryLarge_pTdsrieL8yW.jpg

And this is always encouraging to see...
http://www.iherp.com/Gallery/91331/75503_209033_VeryLarge_43chHnYXlIZgBFz.jpg

[Gungirl]

Amazingly beautiful!

[MoreliAddict]

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6125/5928945304_352283d471_z.jpg
that is so nice looking! like a tree-anaconda - too bad that's not genetic, right?

[Mose]

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6125/5928945304_352283d471_z.jpg
that is so nice looking! like a tree-anaconda - too bad that's not genetic, right?
ATBs have crazy genetics, so you never know. She could throw a litter that all look exactly like her, or they could all be bright red, or a mixture of who-knows-what. That's what makes them so interesting.

[millertime89]

man, your big greens are simple awesome.

[lady_bug87]

Very awesome when mine ges to size I ay consider finding him? A lover..

[BarelyBreathing]

Oh man, thanks. That snake is amazing.

[exwizard]

I agree. Those snakes ARE amazing. Even though I know Ill never have one, I can still enjoy them through these pics. :) Thank you.

[Mose]

Thank, all.

Very awesome when mine ges to size I ay consider finding him? A lover..
For sure.

I agree. Those snakes ARE amazing. Even though I know Ill never have one, I can still enjoy them through these pics. :) Thank you. Why won't you ever get one? Just curious.

[Mose]

Odie x Hulk litter, born 21Aug12. Five healthy babies.

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/546713_478657815486207_336634894_n.jpg

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/526148_478658235486165_1427468500_n.jpg

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/s720x720/551910_478657945486194_2001785076_n.jpg

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/296021_480220745329914_1943819061_n.jpg

[Gungirl]

Gorgeous! you are sending me 2 right? lol I love the look of the one in the 3rd pic..:yes:

[BarelyBreathing]

Are you selling the garden on the left?

[Mose]

Gorgeous! you are sending me 2 right? lol I love the look of the one in the 3rd pic..:yes:

Thanks! The dark one will most likely not keep those colors into adulthood. I have a two year old that looked almost identical to that one at birth, and I just took this picture of her today:
http://www.iherp.com/Gallery/91331/55208_245855_VeryLarge_ciHdy0YNfw.jpg

[Mose]

Are you selling the garden on the left?

I'll be holding all of them back for at least the first year to get a better idea of what they will look like as adults. I will add you to my list of people who have expressed interest in them though. I have to warn you though, that list is now about 30 people long. :sorry:

[Gungirl]

Thanks! The dark one will most likely not keep those colors into adulthood. I have a two year old that looked almost identical to that one at birth, and I just took this picture of her today:
http://www.iherp.com/Gallery/91331/55208_245855_VeryLarge_ciHdy0YNfw.jpg

Oh ok.. thanks for that info. She is still beautiful though.

[moshirimon]

those are all AMAZING snakes.

[millertime89]

I heard you found a few little escape artists Mark...

[Mose]

I heard you found a few little escape artists Mark...

Yeah. Odie is in a cage with double sliding doors. When she had her litter, 5 of the 8 babies got out before I knew they were there. :mad: I was finding babies all over the basement for the next two weeks. Won't make that mistake again...

[millertime89]

Ha ha, well hopefully you've found them all now and don't find anymore little surprises.

[h3h]

These snakes are awesome. I'm going to have to add an Arboreal to my collection some time in the future. So many choices Vine, ATB, GTP, ETB, all interest me. Self Christmas present maybe? Hmmm...

There isn't one snake that isn't gorgeous in this thread.

- h3