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DeesBalls
11-15-11, 06:11 PM
After a good 4-5 months of thinking of gettting a Black blood python, i have reluctantly decided to change my mind, and get a RTB instead... why?

because i don't feel comfortable enough of an owner to keep a black blood at this time... i know every snake is different, but i know a RTB will be a little more relaxed and not as nervous of a snake.. i will however get a black blood, just not at this time...

any way, i have been watching videos all day, and reading on RTB, did a few searches on here as well, i just wanted to know... how big to they get...

ive read, 5 ft max, ive seen 10ft, lol so i am just lost as can be...

ive also seen that a 5ftx2ft would be better instead of a 4x2??

starting him/her off in a 20g long tank with a plexiglass lid and prolly paper towel for substrate... OR- maybe a tub, depending on how big her / her is...

i also want to thank everyone for the help with the black blood info i needed, and i dont want people to think that i am just "impulse" buying or buying a snake just because.... i eventually was going to get both of these snakes, just decided to get RTB 1st, then black blood.... (albino BP for xmas)

thanks!

marvelfreak
11-15-11, 06:32 PM
i also want to thank everyone for the help with the black blood info i needed, and i dont want people to think that i am just "impulse" buying or buying a snake just because.... i eventually was going to get both of these snakes, just decided to get RTB 1st, then black blood.... (albino BP for xmas)

thanks!
We know your not. You been researching Black Bloods for months and decide that your not quite ready for one just yet. That shows your anything, but impulsive. Now your researching RTB. It just shows your being smart and not just rushing in. It's good to see your using your head to decided.

As far as size i use to have a 8.5 foot female and my buddy had a 10 foot
male. I have seen a 14 footer at the Indianapolis Zoo years ago.

snake man12
11-15-11, 06:52 PM
8 and a half is big for a female. 7 is more common for females.
As for males 7 feet is huge most are 6 feet some even 5 feet it depends a lot on how you feed them

lady_bug87
11-15-11, 08:13 PM
I have my female who is a June hatch in a 20gal and she is just fine lots of room she's about 2.5ft long and is currently on rat fuzzies she's a great little snake when I bought her I was told to expect her to get to a max 9ft so when I move I plan on building her a 6'x 3'x 18"

Even though 8 is more realistic I like the extra room

DeesBalls
11-15-11, 08:41 PM
We know your not. You been researching Black Bloods for months and decide that your not quite ready for one just yet. That shows your anything, but impulsive. Now your researching RTB. It just shows your being smart and not just rushing in. It's good to see your using your head to decided.

As far as size i use to have a 8.5 foot female and my buddy had a 10 foot
male. I have seen a 14 footer at the Indianapolis Zoo years ago.

Thanks Marvelfreak, that really makes me feel better :)

any way, i feel i can deal with a 10 foot rtb, but i just cant get past the bad a#$ look and sometimes the temper of a blood...

i will be looking for a male, since i have no need or reason for a female, i will not ever be breeding boas, maybe BP and corns, but never boas...

i just dont want to get him, and then her turns out to be a 15 foot Super boa and then i will need a bigger cage, since i am already going to be building a 4x2x2....

but if i need to go say 5x2x2 that will be fine, just ALOT harder to make lol... since the wood comes in 8x4 foot pieces...


any way, ill be getting a male, and keeping in a 20gal long... i will plan on building a 4x2x2 for now, but at the expo i will talk to the breeder and see how big he/she thinks she will get depending on the parents..

alessia55
11-15-11, 08:45 PM
Good luck with the RTB! Changing your mind after careful research can be a good thing. It means you're fully aware of the implications and the needs of the animal, and that you might be more ready at a different time. If anything I'd say it shows how responsible you are :)
Getting an albino bp for xmas to me sounds like the best part (but I'm biased towards bps ;) ) :D Can't wait to see pics of all your new incoming snakes. Good luck with everything!

CDN_Blood
11-15-11, 08:46 PM
Males don't get that big, generally, but females are a whole other story. Both sexes are *very* powerful constrictors, but females (like any other species of snake) are much larger. I've never had a female under 8 feet.

While most are really quite docile (depending on the subspecies), I wouldn't want to tangle with an angry Boa Constrictor - they're very strong and very dogmatic when they want to be, such as trying to stop them from getting into a tight spot once they've found one they want.

Might want to give some thought to a Rainbow Boa - they're excellent alternatives for those in areas where Boa Constrictors are prohibited, they're much more manageable than a large BC, and they still get a decent size at about 5 feet or more. I'm just thrown' it out there :)

DeesBalls
11-15-11, 08:51 PM
Good luck with the RTB! Changing your mind after careful research can be a good thing. It means you're fully aware of the implications and the needs of the animal, and that you might be more ready at a different time. If anything I'd say it shows how responsible you are :)
Getting an albino bp for xmas to me sounds like the best part (but I'm biased towards bps ;) ) :D Can't wait to see pics of all your new incoming snakes. Good luck with everything!

haha thanks!! an albino has been my dream snake since i got my ksb 5 yrs ago!!! well even before that... just going to finish up with that one (best for last) :)


Males don't get that big, generally, but females are a whole other story. Both sexes are *very* powerful constrictors, but females (like any other species of snake) are much larger. I've never had a female under 8 feet.

While most are really quite docile (depending on the subspecies), I wouldn't want to tangle with an angry Boa Constrictor - they're very strong and very dogmatic when they want to be, such as trying to stop them from getting into a tight spot once they've found one they want.

Might want to give some thought to a Rainbow Boa - they're excellent alternatives for those in areas where Boa Constrictors are prohibited, they're much more manageable than a large BC, and they still get a decent size at about 5 feet or more. I'm just thrown' it out there

Thanks for your input, however, i already have a BRB... and it has crossed my mind ALOT!!!!!!!!!!! to get another one, but i want a variety in my "collection". it is not out of the questions by far though to get another BRB but RTB has always caught my eye, (just like black bloods) and think i want to par take a RTB... i will for sure get a male, and all my snakes are very nice, but my BRB (long story) and my baby pastel BP, who is just a baby...

thanks again!!

lady_bug87
11-15-11, 08:52 PM
Albinos are awesome

alessia55
11-15-11, 08:53 PM
Also I think I've asked you this on a different thread but you never saw it... could you post pics of your albino cali king? pleeease? :yes: Please and Thanks!

snake man12
11-15-11, 08:56 PM
Common boa or BCC

millertime89
11-15-11, 09:09 PM
a 6x3 seems rather large, even for a 9 foot boa. I would think a 4x2 would be sufficient.

edit: directed at lady bug

DeesBalls
11-15-11, 09:18 PM
Also I think I've asked you this on a different thread but you never saw it... could you post pics of your albino cali king? pleeease? :yes: Please and Thanks!

ya, i will, tomorrow is cleaning day, i want to post pics of everybody!! ill post some for sure of Cordillia... *cali king*



Common boa or BCC
suppose i should go ahead and ask... what is the difference of these two?

shaunyboy
11-15-11, 11:45 PM
We know your not. You been researching Black Bloods for months and decide that your not quite ready for one just yet. That shows your anything, but impulsive. Now your researching RTB. It just shows your being smart and not just rushing in. It's good to see your using your head to decided.

as chuck said you did yourself proud mate

its ALWAYS better to change your mind BEFORE,rather than after you buy the snake in question

imo it shows you to be a responsible keeper

cheers shaun

DeesBalls
11-16-11, 12:27 AM
as chuck said you did yourself proud mate

its ALWAYS better to change your mind BEFORE,rather than after you buy the snake in question

imo it shows you to be a responsible keeper

cheers shaun

That really means alot to me, thanks!!

lady_bug87
11-16-11, 05:03 AM
a 6x3 seems rather large, even for a 9 foot boa. I would think a 4x2 would be sufficient.

edit: directed at lady bug

Really? Ok I was basing it on the fact that her mom and dad are heavier then I've seen so I figured the wiggle room would have been nice but yea works for me thanks Kyle

snake man12
11-16-11, 06:19 AM
Bcc means boa constrictor constrictor. A common boa is a colombian or costa rican boa scientific name is Boa constrictor imperator.

Jay
11-16-11, 07:11 AM
Bcc means boa constrictor constrictor. A common boa is a colombian or costa rican boa scientific name is Boa constrictor imperator.

There are bcc Colombians as well. Bcc's are true red tails, it's almost redundant to call your bci Colombia a Colombian red tail, it mainly just used to enduce sales in pet stores. What sounds nicer?

Jay
11-16-11, 07:12 AM
I wouldn't recommend a bcc as a first lg snake.

SnakeyJay
11-16-11, 07:20 AM
I wouldn't recommend a bcc as a first lg snake.

Why is that? Im not doubting you in any way, im just interested. :D

Jay
11-16-11, 07:36 AM
I'm was not stating that to be harsh to anyone. Bci's are more forgiving to slight temperature fluctuations, and minor husbandry issues. Bcc's become larger then the bci. Bcc's have to be fed same girth prey or smaller, they don't digest as fast as bci's and the prey will rot and cause a regurge, that also means limit The handeling. Don't get me wrong though they are so beautifulthey are also very rewarding to keep. Any one can do it with proper research.

lady_bug87
11-16-11, 08:47 AM
Which becomes complicated if you don't know what you got exactly.... So what would you suggest for preventative measures

Jay
11-16-11, 09:38 AM
Usually you won't just run into a PURE bcc, if you do you will reconize the differences. One of mine is about to pop out of a shed, I'll post a pic to persuade the op as well.

DeesBalls
11-16-11, 11:30 AM
Thanks for all the info, so i will try and pick up a bci... i hope the breeder at the expo will be there with the same one i was looking at, he said it was a "silver line" something he was working on, sure it may be made up to get newbs to buy it, but it worked... she looked awesome!! very bright silver/grey with a nice bold red tail... we will see though!

millertime89
11-16-11, 12:02 PM
Really? Ok I was basing it on the fact that her mom and dad are heavier then I've seen so I figured the wiggle room would have been nice but yea works for me thanks Kyle

Aye, unless she's really active its a bit overkill. A 5x2 would probably be about perfect. A 6x3 is typically what full grown female retics are kept in unless they're true monsters like Twinkie, Fluffy (RIP) or Harry's Medusa who are all over 20 feet long, heck they might be, I'm not sure what they're kept in, Stephen might know better than me. (typically is the key word there)

DeesBalls
11-16-11, 01:15 PM
so.... 4x2 .. too small?

millertime89
11-16-11, 02:05 PM
no, should be about perfect, 4x2 or 5x2 unless for some reason you get a genetic freak that's either massive of puny, or its REALLY active and pushes against the sides of the enclosure.

DeesBalls
11-16-11, 03:49 PM
no, should be about perfect, 4x2 or 5x2 unless for some reason you get a genetic freak that's either massive of puny, or its REALLY active and pushes against the sides of the enclosure.

okay, thanks, i will keep in mine of getting the 4x2 built, then if need to i can make a new one, and have a spare cage :)

lady_bug87
11-16-11, 07:11 PM
Thanks Kyle that makes sense. She seems really active now but who knows. Right now she's tiny so she's in a 2'x1 and she seems to fit nicely lots of room ro stretch she's probably little over 2ft herself just a baby but she is putting on weight

millertime89
11-17-11, 02:24 PM
you can always add or remove length as you need.

lady_bug87
11-17-11, 06:51 PM
Yea that's true

CDN_Blood
11-17-11, 09:14 PM
I dunno...4x2 sounds a little small on the 2 side, but then again, most boas don't really move a lot and they certainly do like to pack into tight spaces. As long as it gets out for routine exercise to keep any excess weight off, you should be okay.

My snakes are all in relatively small spaces, but they really only use them to eat, sleep and do their dirty work in. The rest of the time they're out in their room getting in each other's way, moving things around that aren't nailed down and generally staying fit and active. It's just a routine we have because I've got a safe room to do it in. They all seem awfully healthy and they're clearly very happy, but a Boa doesn't really spend as much time trucking around as your average Python does.

millertime89
11-17-11, 11:29 PM
but a Boa doesn't really spend as much time trucking around as your average Python does.

tell that to my 2... My brb is one active little guy when I let him out, the BP kinda chills wherever he's placed, gradually exploring when he feels like it.

millertime89
11-17-11, 11:30 PM
oh... and tight spaces you say?
http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/qq191/KKMpunkrock2011/retictubs.jpg
edit: lemme know if you guys can't see that, I doubt you'll be able to.
edit 2: I changed it, now everybody should be able to see it.

CDN_Blood
11-18-11, 06:15 AM
tell that to my 2... My brb is one active little guy when I let him out, the BP kinda chills wherever he's placed, gradually exploring when he feels like it.

Just to clarify, the thread is about Boa Constrictors, so that's what I was referring to so things would stay on-topic ;)

lady_bug87
11-18-11, 07:23 AM
when we get into our house my snakes will have a whole room to exercise and stretch out in my plan for my pets is to have full lean bodies