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beardeds4life
11-13-11, 05:04 PM
Hi so I want to breed leopard geckos and I want to find a good morph calculator. I understand all the things about co-dom and dom and recessive but all the ones I have looked at you have to put in the different morphs that make them (I think thats how it works) but I will be dealing with composite morphs and I do not know what makes them up. Thanks.;)
youngster
11-13-11, 05:52 PM
Learn punnett squares (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punnett_square).
Made it a lot easier for me so I don't use a calculator anymore.
candyraver69
11-13-11, 06:22 PM
I don't know the first thing about gecko genetics but maybe this page has the information you are looking for about which morphs make up the compound morphs: The Definitive Guide to Leopard Gecko Morphs - Ians Vivarium (http://iansvivarium.com/morphs/species/eublepharis_macularius/)
Learn punnett squares (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punnett_square).
Made it a lot easier for me so I don't use a calculator anymore.
That is the most confusing thing I have read in a long time!!! but educational :)
candyraver69
11-13-11, 09:35 PM
That is the most confusing thing I have read in a long time!!! but educational :)
It can be overwhelming at first, but if you do it enough before long you will be doing it in your head like 2+2.
beardeds4life
11-14-11, 06:35 PM
I have been doing punnett squares since I was 8 so it is already like 2 +2 but I do not know the genetic makeup of geckos.
beardeds4life
11-14-11, 06:38 PM
I don't know the first thing about gecko genetics but maybe this page has the information you are looking for about which morphs make up the compound morphs: The Definitive Guide to Leopard Gecko Morphs - Ians Vivarium (http://iansvivarium.com/morphs/species/eublepharis_macularius/)
this site is amazing!!!!!!
candyraver69
11-15-11, 06:01 AM
Awesome glad it worked for you. It's helped me a lot for learning corns and balls. I wish that there were more pictures, but at least it tells what morphs make up the complex ones and you can always look up pics on google if there is some morph you don't know and want to see what it looks like. :)
beardeds4life
11-16-11, 04:00 PM
yes but i still dont get the punnett squares
candyraver69
11-18-11, 05:13 AM
Oh I thought you did? Just figure out what pattern each morph follows by using that site. If it takes three recessive to make the morph you want for example then you just plug those three in to different squares and divide out the results.
So lets say morph aa+bb+cc is what you want but you can't get that and need to start from an aa, bb and cc.
aa would be aaBB and bb would be AAbb because they have the dominant normal genes where they don't have the morphs. So aaBB x AAbb would give you %100 AaBb because if you made punnett's for each a's and b's each result is Aa and Bb respectively. But then the next generation AaBb x AaBb you would get %25 AA, %50Aa, %25 aa, same with B's. So dividing the %25 AA into AABB, %25 of %25 is %6.25 AABB. %50 of %25 is %12.5 AABb, so forth and so on with each counterpart. It sounds ridiculously confusing, and I am not the best at explaining things in simple terms, but it's really not hard once you understand how it works the way it does.
Maybe try to understand it in terms that for each individual morph a single punnet square will tell you what your odds are of the babies having that particular morph. Then in combining more than one, you are just defining the chance that two or more line up on the same animal by basically setting a single portion of one morph aside to deal with and dividing that by each other morphs percent, and doing that until you have covered each and every part.
It's really just simple probability. There are 4 possible genes to inherit at each loci, and it has to inherit one from each parent, and Punnet squares seem to be the easiest way to plug in the information and get the data.
My head hurts trying to explain it, I'm sure I make even less sense trying to understand but I gave it a go.
beardeds4life
11-20-11, 11:13 PM
im just going to breed 2 sunglows together and hope for more sunglows
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