is this snake worth it?

[KORBIN5895]

I can pick up a 7 foot bredli carpet python. He is asking 100 bucks for her but one eye is kinda wonkey. It is larger with a brown ring around the pupil. Also her head " woobles" I assume he means wobbles.( he is French) here is a pic. She is apparently a good breeder.http://skydrive.live.com/redir.aspx?cid=2ed972b7fc2217d4&page=play&resid=2ED972B7FC2217D4!466&type=1&Bpub=SDX.Photos&Bsrc=Photomail&parid=2ED972B7FC2217D4%21465&authkey=MPL8r3dlvjI%24

[Gungirl]

Picture didn't work..

[KORBIN5895]

Son of..........( I love Chris Farley) I didn't think it did. I don't get how to post pics. I tried earlier and couldn't get it to work.

[KORBIN5895]

http://skydrive.live.com/redir.aspx?cid=2ed972b7fc2217d4&page=play&resid=2ED972B7FC2217D4!466&type=1&Bpub=SDX.Photos&Bsrc=Photomail&parid=2ED972B7FC2217D4%21465&authkey=MPL8r3dlvjI%24
Try this.

[Gungirl]

That works..

[Jay]

"Son of a......" I did the voice in my head before you made the connection to Chris lol

Is that your BCC?

[youngster]

If you plan on breeding I dunno, but if you want her for a pet there's no such thing as worth it.

[KORBIN5895]

Ah but there is such a thing as worth it! Why get a pet that you may have to put down once you have become attached? I am not worried about the money ( I'll just print some more) but I know nothing about cp. I saw the pi. And loved it! Almost drove 4 hours one way for it. But the head wobble and the unknown age kinda bother me. I don't need a diseased snake in my collection. I just got an atb that brought me mites. He hasn't had it long and 100 seems cheap to me for a healthy cp.

[totheend]

Very, very good deal! If I were closer, I would buy her!!

[snake man12]

I don't know about that eye maybe it was scratched by a mouse. 100 bucks sounds good

[youngster]

Oh, I thought by worth it you meant money wise.

[KORBIN5895]

Yeah i was joking about the money. I can't throw away a hondo. I am more worried aboutt the diseases or my son getting attached. He is a high functioning autistic child and he doesn't forget our pet ( he is asking for pets we had a year ago.

[youngster]

Well, I may be wrong but I think you should get it if you want it. I highly doubt an eye injury is going to directly kill. There's Tiger snakes in Tasmania and some are completely blind (from gulls pecking them out) and they do just fine :)

[shaunyboy]

head wobbles are usually a sign of a neurological issue

would need to see a close up picture of the bredl's eye to comment

carpet pythons heads should not wobble mate

cheers shaun

[KORBIN5895]

My worries exactly Shaun! After reading about the sick rosy I am kinda sketched out. I will get a pic of the eye and post it.

[youngster]

Oh I didn't see the wobble part. That probably isn't good.

[TeaNinja]

honestly if i was looking for an aquisition i would try me best to steer clear of ANY issues except very small handlable ones.

[totheend]

Oh I didn't see the wobble part. That probably isn't good.

Apparently I didn't read that either! I saw the eye issue but missed that.

[alessia55]

My worries exactly Shaun! After reading about the sick rosy I am kinda sketched out. I will get a pic of the eye and post it.

Korbin the rosy you're talking about is mine. And I'd suggest you steer clear away from any neurological symptoms like the head wobble JUST IN CASE. You never know what else it might come with once you get it. It's a great deal money-wise, but the cost of a snake that could potentially grow to have more issues will be greater. And in looking out for your son who might get attached, I personally wouldn't recommend this snake. I agree with what TeaNinja said...


honestly if i was looking for an aquisition i would try me best to steer clear of ANY issues except very small handlable ones.

[KORBIN5895]

I am torn but think I am going to avoid it....... but it was SO pretty!

[SkYyaMe1623]

If you plan on breeding I dunno, but if you want her for a pet there's no such thing as worth it.
Well said!

If you like the snake and how it looks then the $ worth is really up to you. Carpets could be very hard to price but as far as carpets go $100 is by no means expensive.

The wobble part isn't good but it's typical for the jag morph so maybe it has jag in it?

[shaunyboy]

Well said!

If you like the snake and how it looks then the $ worth is really up to you. Carpets could be very hard to price but as far as carpets go $100 is by no means expensive.

The wobble part isn't good but it's typical for the jag morph so maybe it has jag in it?

the snake in the picture is a pure bredl,imo there are no indictors its some kind of cross

i personally would not buy it as bredl are not known for having neuro issues like the jaguar mutation

thers no point in buying a snake with problems imo mate

cheers shaun

[gonesnakee]

Could not see the pic but would avoid the snake like the plague.
The fact that it has an eye issue & a wobble tells me it has some serious issues & a good chance of an infection &/or tumor in its head.
Poor things brain could be swelling causing the wooble & the eye thing.
Right now is a buyers market for Carpets in Canada & there are plenty of healthy specimens available for $100-$300.
Just saw a friend in BC had an ad up fo a female JCP for $100 killer high yellow & a Bredli jag for like $150 for just 2 examples.
Why buy a snake with unknown issues that are potentially fatal?
Its a no brainer for me anyhow Cheers Mark

[gonesnakee]

Also what are the provincial laws for NB & the bylaws for Saint Johns ?
Carpets could be illegal either provincially there or by local bylaw, something to check into prior any aquisition Cheers Mark

[KORBIN5895]

Not sure about the laws but I kno. Burmese are common so...... I am not going to bother. I hate to say it but I am not the kinda person to take a pet to the vet. So I am going to hold off.

[gonesnakee]

Not sure about the laws but I kno. Burmese are common so...... I am not going to bother. I hate to say it but I am not the kinda person to take a pet to the vet. So I am going to hold off.

So due to the fact that many others may be keeping illegal specimens you don't even intend on finding out what is & is not legal?
No disrespect but not exactly responsible pet ownership, Mark

[alessia55]

Not sure about the laws but I kno. Burmese are common so...... I am not going to bother. I hate to say it but I am not the kinda person to take a pet to the vet. So I am going to hold off.

......really? I must have mis-read this. Surely you don't mean that you wouldn't take your pet to the vet if it needed medical attention...right?

[youngster]

......really? I must have mis-read this. Surely you don't mean that you wouldn't take your pet to the vet if it needed medical attention...right?

I hope he didn't mean it the way we are taking it...
If a snake needs the vet, it needs the vet.

[millertime89]

I *think* what he meant was he didn't want to purchase a snake that he knew would need vet care right away.

[KORBIN5895]

Well my local pet store can order in Burmese. I am pretty sure you guys did read it right. If something is seriously ill I take it to Dr. L. R. Rifle. I have put down two of my own dogs myself. Sorry if that is offensive. I feel an animal is just that. Snakes are my exception though. I guess I don't want to get into a pet that I know will need multiple vet visits. If I have a small animal that is sick I would rather put it down. If a vet visit cost more than the animal itself I think it is wiser to kill it. Sorry.

[youngster]

I understand how you don't want to get a snake that will most likely cost a lot in vet visits but I disagree with this. :(

If a vet visit cost more than the animal itself I think it is wiser to kill it

[alessia55]

Well my local pet store can order in Burmese. I am pretty sure you guys did read it right. If something is seriously ill I take it to Dr. L. R. Rifle. I have put down two of my own dogs myself. Sorry if that is offensive. I feel an animal is just that. Snakes are my exception though. I guess I don't want to get into a pet that I know will need multiple vet visits. If I have a small animal that is sick I would rather put it down. If a vet visit cost more than the animal itself I think it is wiser to kill it. Sorry.

Ouch :( Not sure I agree with your logic...

I'm currently paying vet bills for a snake that was sold to me very sick (http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/erycines/88889-sick-rosy-boa.html) ($100 for the snake, $65 for the first vet visit, and I'm guessing it'll be another $65 for tomorrow's visit, and whatever she needs after that), and it's a snake I don't plan on keeping, but I want to do whatever I can to get her healthy again if I can help it. I'd also be willing to pay whatever it took if my $15 hamster (Mashmellow) got sick if he had something that was treatable and he wasn't in excessive pain that couldn't be remedied. I put no limit on the money I'd spend to ensure an animal's well-being, despite the monetary worth of the animal.

[brandonh]

I put no limit on the money I'd spend to ensure an animal's well-being, despite the monetary worth of the animal.

i agree with that, i also rather buy reptiles from other ppl other then from breeders because i think all reptiles and animals should have a second chance at life.

[KORBIN5895]

A friend paid 3k for his rat to have chemotherapy. That's insane. I understand your situation with the boa but at what point do you say enough? I just say it sooner then you might.

[shaunyboy]

Well my local pet store can order in Burmese. I am pretty sure you guys did read it right. If something is seriously ill I take it to Dr. L. R. Rifle. I have put down two of my own dogs myself. Sorry if that is offensive. I feel an animal is just that. Snakes are my exception though. I guess I don't want to get into a pet that I know will need multiple vet visits. If I have a small animal that is sick I would rather put it down. If a vet visit cost more than the animal itself I think it is wiser to kill it. Sorry.


each to their own mate

i personally am willing to spend over the price of the snake to make it healthy again

if its quality of life cannot be improoved and its suffering then i euthinise myself

1 swift hard hit to the head with a lump hammer causes full cranial destruction before the brain registers any pain

cheers shaun

[alessia55]

each to their own mate

i personally am willing to spend over the price of the snake to make it healthy again

if its quality of life cannot be improoved and its suffering then i euthinise myself

1 swift hard hit to the head with a lump hammer causes full cranial destruction before the brain registers any pain

cheers shaun

Ugh what a horrible visual :(

[millertime89]

Ugh what a horrible visual :(

yes, but its the best way.

[Lankyrob]

I am with Shaun, having euthanised dogs, cats and various rodent pets quick is always best. If there is any hope however then to the vet it goes, i have 14 pets and £15k available should any of them need it - the reason we arent adding animals to our collection is cos we cant afford to up the reserve, i always try to have a minimum of £1k per animal available for emergencies - works out cheaper than buying insurance for each animal individually.

[Will0W783]

I agree that if anything can be done to help an animal or heal it, I will do it...regardless of expenses. I had a big, beautiful female ETB that cost me $250 to buy....I had her for three months and she developed a very large tumor in her stomach. I took her to my vet four times, and we decided on surgery to attempt to save her. It was too late- the cancer had destroyed her stomach, but we did all we could and she just never woke up from the anesthesia. In the end, I spent another $400 in vet bills. I've also gone to extremes to save a snake with genetic kidney disease, and rehabilitate an abused, half-starved, scar-riddled Burmese python. I'm currently working with a C. atrox my cousin gave me that has severe belly scale rot and burns from being housed on filthy sand with a UTH. To me, they are all lives, and precious. If there truly is nothing that can be done to ease their suffering and heal them, then it's better to euthanize...but if the animal can live a good long life with just a bit of care and expense on my part, I will always take that option.

[Snakefood]

me too!! my Siberian Husky x cost me $100 back in 1999. In his lifetime, I have spent upwards of 10k (I`m not talking shots and maintanence or foods) on his allergy problems (he is allergic to EVERYTHING!!!!!!!) and now that he is both geriatric and has a medical condition, I`m sure those bills will go up.

But Poitash will stay by my side until nature takes him out naturally or his quality of life sucks to the point of my having to make the hardest decision ever. But when that time comes, I will put my hurt aside and save him the agony of going slowly and painfully. I will have him put down.

But hopefully he still has a couple-few years left in him.