PDA

View Full Version : Help id kingsnake please

Terranaut
10-23-11, 03:05 PM
Just bought him at an expo.
I know nothing about them other than I was told he was a mexican king.
Can anyone be more specific from these photos?
Is he full grown??
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j9/terranaut0/photo-13.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j9/terranaut0/photo-12.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j9/terranaut0/photo-16.jpg
Kiljosh
10-23-11, 03:17 PM
He kinda looks more like a Desert Kingsnake. Mexican kings are solid black when they are that big.

Desert:
http://www.kingsnake.com/hudspeth/kingclose.jpg
Mexican:
http://www.reptilebuzz.com/images/mexican-black-kingsnake.jpg
sassy_snake_lady
10-23-11, 03:24 PM
Looks a bit like my goins king?

http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff471/CodyBoo2/DSCF9192.jpg
SSSSnakes
10-23-11, 03:42 PM
Looks a bit like my goins king?

http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff471/CodyBoo2/DSCF9192.jpg

I would agree. It looks like a goins king.
Terranaut
10-23-11, 03:55 PM
He kinda looks more like a Desert Kingsnake. Mexican kings are solid black when they are that big.

Desert:
http://www.kingsnake.com/hudspeth/kingclose.jpg
Mexican:
http://www.reptilebuzz.com/images/mexican-black-kingsnake.jpg

This is why I am asking. I want to be sure his enclosure temps are just as he needs.
He definately looks more like goins king. His spotting is more defined but the pattern and colour are very similar.
Xochiquetzal
10-23-11, 04:00 PM
he is beautiful! But definately not a black mexican!
alessia55
10-23-11, 04:03 PM
Agreed. He's beautiful, and looks like a goins king snake, not a mexican king snake. And to me he looks like he's about full grown or definitely approaching it.
Terranaut
10-23-11, 04:21 PM
Funny thing is I never thought he was a black mexican king. But wasn't sure if there was another mexican king. I mean... He isn't black at all ;) My son was hoping he would stay this size so perfect
dudesteve151
10-23-11, 05:41 PM
Looks like a desert king snake but have never seen an adult Google pic's him maybe you will find out that way. Really awesome snake though.
Terranaut
10-25-11, 03:22 AM
Wow what a feeding response. No issues feeding him at all. He ate right away first try and not shy at all. ;)
ZARADOZIA
10-25-11, 04:27 AM
Wow what a feeding response. No issues feeding him at all. He ate right away first try and not shy at all. ;)

That is wonderful news! I think feeding issues is the biggest concern for most. I know I spaz out when my babies won't eat but then I remind myself that there are times when I don't feel like eating either...lol
Terranaut
10-25-11, 04:36 AM
Back to identifying him. Do all goins have red because this guy is chesnut brown to almost black and then the yellowish tint. I figure the goins seems best so far but I have looked at pics of goins and he seems just a bit different.
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j9/terranaut0/photo-22.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j9/terranaut0/photo-21.jpg
SSSSnakes
10-25-11, 04:52 AM
You probably will never know for sure where he is from, Colors and patterns can very greatly. ID-ing him from pictures will never give you a 100% answer.
kernel
10-25-11, 01:12 PM
He looks just like a goins king!
crimsonking
11-02-11, 08:59 PM
Yes, it does appear to be an Apalachicola king (L. g. goini). Though it could be a product of breeding of any of the easterns...including L.g.floridana and/or L.g.getula.
Likely though, it has the "blaze" phase introduced in there as well, since it is holding some of the red coloration it was born with like many getula.
I do have some wild caught that are holding some color too, however.......
"Goins" kings are most variable and when you mix in genes from any of the others, you never know what you may end up ith.
One thing is certain, it is no mexican or desert king.
:Mark