Corn Snake Fans MUST See This!!

[alessia55]

I stumbled upon this photo of this corn snake, a "palmetto" corn snake. Now, I'm not big into colubrids in the first place, but this one simply left me speechless!! Wow!! Maybe I'm just late to finding out about the latest corn morphs, so maybe some of you already knew about this one, but... Check out this sexy snake!!!

http://www.cornsnake.net/images/stories/pm0152s.jpg

[RegenerationRep]

WOW :O

This is the most beautiful corn snake I have ever seen.

[Snakefood]

ya, we know. Problem is that they are $4000.00 USD I want one, but don't have that kind of dough!!

[alessia55]

PS: you totally have to click on that bar above the picture to see it in full size if you don't already. So super awesome :yes:

[blindfireak40]

You want something nuts, check out Tessera corns. they're going for 20 grand right now (and only 2 per season) because the breeder "doesn't want the market flooded", which sounds to my cynical ears like "I want the most money out of a dominant gene I can get"

[Snakefood]

same with these ones. $4000 each. only selling females so the market doesn't flood too fast (interpretation: I want to corner the market and charge 4K a pop as long as I can)

I just wonder what he's doing with all the males. There comes a point where even a large breeder will have waaaaaay too many palmetto males for his breeding program, and if he won't sell them, exactly what is he doing with them?? culling?? if so, that is NOT COOL!!

[alessia55]

You want something nuts, check out Tessera corns

Tessera corns are expensive, but I think the Palmetto one is wayyyyy prettier and has way more "wow" factor ;)

[Gungirl]

ya, we know. Problem is that they are $4000.00 USD I want one, but don't have that kind of dough!!

^ ditto. I looked into them when I first saw them also. Someday I will be able to afford them. Price has to come down one day....

[blindfireak40]

same with these ones. $4000 each. only selling females so the market doesn't flood too fast (interpretation: I want to corner the market and charge 4K a pop as long as I can)

I just wonder what he's doing with all the males. There comes a point where even a large breeder will have waaaaaay too many palmetto males for his breeding program, and if he won't sell them, exactly what is he doing with them?? culling?? if so, that is NOT COOL!!

I've heard speculation that gender can be influenced in reptiles by varying their incubation temperature. Perhaps he's figured a way to get only females?

On the outside chance, but it's definitely a happier thought than culling.

[reptile65]

You want something nuts, check out Tessera corns. they're going for 20 grand right now (and only 2 per season) because the breeder "doesn't want the market flooded", which sounds to my cynical ears like "I want the most money out of a dominant gene I can get"

Where are you getting this info? Tesseras are definitely not selling for anything remotely close to $20,000. They have been around long enough that plenty of people are working with them. You can purchase a regular Tessera corn for well under $1000 and the prices are only going to continue to go down as they become more popular.

[blindfireak40]

Where are you getting this info? Tesseras are definitely not selling for anything remotely close to $20,000. They have been around long enough that plenty of people are working with them. You can purchase a regular Tessera corn for well under $1000 and the prices are only going to continue to go down as they become more popular.

Well, my face is sure red on this one!! :o

I'm glad you called me on my statement, as it is completely false! I thought I was remembering correctly, but I was actually remembering statements made by a certain breeder regarding Palmettos (not selling for a few years, only a few at a time, and $4000); said breeder has no statement regarding Tessera snakes on his website as of now.

Again, good catch...s'pose I owe you a Palmetto now, huh? :rolleyes:

[alessia55]

Well, my face is sure red on this one!! :o

I'm glad you called me on my statement, as it is completely false! I thought I was remembering correctly, but I was actually remembering statements made by a certain breeder regarding Palmettos (not selling for a few years, only a few at a time, and $4000); said breeder has no statement regarding Tessera snakes on his website as of now.

Again, good catch...s'pose I owe you a Palmetto now, huh? :rolleyes:

lol!! :p :p :p

[Snakefood]

Well, my face is sure red on this one!! :o

I'm glad you called me on my statement, as it is completely false! I thought I was remembering correctly, but I was actually remembering statements made by a certain breeder regarding Palmettos (not selling for a few years, only a few at a time, and $4000); said breeder has no statement regarding Tessera snakes on his website as of now.

Again, good catch...s'pose I owe you a Palmetto now, huh? :rolleyes:

oooh, ooh, me first!!

[millertime89]

wow, that palmetto is stunning, looks like a bowl of holiday mints in snake form.

[UwabamiReptiles]

I'm not a corn guy at all but that one is amazing. I would get one of those in a heartbeat no question. I don't know if it would work but wouldn't that guy look awesome as a scale-less? Just a thought

[Snakefood]

i'm sure years from now breeders will try all sorts of things with Palmetto's. For now though, just as it is, is stunning, don't you think??

If the title "Patriarch Palmetto" means what I think it does, then that snake pictured is the big Pappa, who was captured from the wild as an adult. The breeder who now owns him (I believe it's Don Soddenburg?) paid an undisclosed 6 figures to the person who captured him.

I'm not sure if last season or this coming one is the first actual Palmetto's for sale to the public, either way it is a very new project, so will probably be many years before the prices come down.

[sassy_snake_lady]

I love my corns but I don't actually like the Palmetto that much!

I do like the Tessera though and they have come down loads in price and will continue to do so seeing as everyone will be breeding them in a few years lol That's good though, means I can get one ;)

I'm not normally a fan of pied snakes either but I do like the pied bloodreds.

[Uncle_Rev]

Very nice!

[Will0W783]

GORGEOUS corn snake- I usually don't go for corns, but that is smokin' hot. However, I still would not pay $4k for it.

[candyraver69]

Well, my face is sure red on this one!! :o

I'm glad you called me on my statement, as it is completely false! I thought I was remembering correctly, but I was actually remembering statements made by a certain breeder regarding Palmettos (not selling for a few years, only a few at a time, and $4000); said breeder has no statement regarding Tessera snakes on his website as of now.

Again, good catch...s'pose I owe you a Palmetto now, huh? :rolleyes:

LOL I was reading this conversation and thinking that's exactly what I remembered the palmetto guy saying.... and sure enough that's where you got it from. Haha. Funny how our brains mix things up like that.

I think it's crazy he wan't 4k and ISNT selling many, and only females, etc, because for people to make their money back they WILL have to flood the market. Buy a female for 4K, can't turn a profit for a minimum of 6 years... yeah... stupid idea if you ask me. I think we can expect to see a flood of them in 9 years when the first buyers have loads of pairs set up :)

[millertime89]

I think it's crazy he wan't 4k and ISNT selling many, and only females, etc, because for people to make their money back they WILL have to flood the market. Buy a female for 4K, can't turn a profit for a minimum of 6 years... yeah... stupid idea if you ask me. I think we can expect to see a flood of them in 9 years when the first buyers have loads of pairs set up :)

I think he probably just doesn't have too many right now, give him a year or two until he can establish a sizeable breeding population and I'm sure he'll be selling loads to make as much money as possible before other breeders begin to flood the market with them.

[candyraver69]

I think he probably just doesn't have too many right now, give him a year or two until he can establish a sizeable breeding population and I'm sure he'll be selling loads to make as much money as possible before other breeders begin to flood the market with them.

No he purposely only is making and selling so many, there's an article he wrote about what he's doing. He's only selling females so people can't take a male knock up loads of females. :S Quite an investment for anyone interested in getting this morph going.

[Snakefood]

did he happen to say what he is doing with the males that are born?? my curiosity kills on this particular question.

[candyraver69]

did he happen to say what he is doing with the males that are born?? my curiosity kills on this particular question.

He said that he would not sell males until 2015 at least, so maybe he will keep them and grow them. Not sure.