2 New guys on there way!! [Archive] - sSNAKESs : Reptile Forum

Gungirl

10-18-11, 11:31 AM

So my husband ( TMacie ) is the best! He just bought himself a nice little boy.
http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee454/KAMacie/PART951318813245924.jpg
He should be here tomorrow by noon!! Then my husband is getting me a sexy little coral albino man.
http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee454/KAMacie/20115118Male.jpg
We are just waiting for a few details to get worked out and he will be here!! i will post all pictures in this thread and keep you all posted... Im getting xmas in october!!!!!!

Snakefood

10-18-11, 11:33 AM

that coral albino is STUNNING!!

lady_bug87

10-18-11, 11:39 AM

I love Corals!

alessia55

10-18-11, 11:40 AM

Both look great but that coral is amazing! Can't wait to see more photos :yes:

marvelfreak

10-18-11, 11:53 AM

Cool looking Boa's. That Coral is freak wicked looking.

Gungirl

10-18-11, 11:55 AM

Thanks everyone! I do love my coral man. I can't wait to get him! I promise lots of pictures once they get here!

Jenn_06

10-18-11, 12:07 PM

need to stop showing me the coral your making me want on really bad

Gungirl

10-18-11, 12:56 PM

need to stop showing me the coral your making me want on really bad

What's one more? lol Wait until I get him.. you will get tons of pictures!:freakedout::yes:

Snakefood

10-18-11, 01:01 PM

need to stop showing me the coral your making me want on really bad

NO, NO, NO!!!!!!!!!!:eek:

definately keep showing us the Coral Albino!!!:yes: It may actually get me into boa's!! (so far I haven't had any interest in Boa's):rolleyes:

Gungirl

10-18-11, 01:02 PM

NO, NO, NO!!!!!!!!!!:eek:

definately keep showing us the Coral Albino!!!:yes: It may actually get me into boa's!! (so far I haven't had any interest in Boa's):rolleyes:

I Blame Katrina (Krazykat) for my new wants.I saw a few of hers and fell in love. The hubby wanted them from the start but he waited until I was on board. I think that's why I get my dream snake..lol

alessia55

10-18-11, 01:04 PM

millertime89

10-18-11, 01:08 PM

need to stop showing me the coral your making me want on really bad

same here! its dangerous.

Gungirl

10-18-11, 01:08 PM

Quote Alessia55-(Question... Out of curiosity I was looking into red tail boas and from photos, your stunning little coral looks like what they call a "coral sunglow" rather than a "coral albino". I'm more of a python person, so my knowledge of big boas is limited. Is there a difference between these two? )End Quote

I am new to boa's I had the same thought but I love him either way.. If someone can chime in I would love to know. I will post more/better pics once he is here and im sure that will help aslo.

Snakefood

10-18-11, 01:11 PM

and how big do they get??

KrazyKat

10-18-11, 01:22 PM

Question... Out of curiosity I was looking into red tail boas and from photos, your stunning little coral looks like what they call a "coral sunglow" rather than a "coral albino". I'm more of a python person, so my knowledge of big boas is limited. Is there a difference between these two?

There is indeed a difference: A Sunglow boa is actually a hypo albino with both the co-dominant hypo gene and the recessive albino gene present, and visible. An albino, is just that - add the Coral trait to both morphs and there you have it.

KrazyKat

10-18-11, 01:26 PM

I Blame Katrina (Krazykat) for my new wants.I saw a few of hers and fell in love. The hubby wanted them from the start but he waited until I was on board. I think that's why I get my dream snake..lol

Heehee well I do NOT apologize for my part in this! :P It's an addiction everyone should get pulled into :D

And again Kat, GORGEOUS boas - your Coral Albino boy is of course, my favourite too! ;) CONGRATS!!

Gungirl

10-18-11, 02:28 PM

Heehee well I do NOT apologize for my part in this! :P It's an addiction everyone should get pulled into :D

And again Kat, GORGEOUS boas - your Coral Albino boy is of course, my favourite too! ;) CONGRATS!!

You better not apologize, Thanks for the compliments!!

Gungirl

10-18-11, 04:05 PM

OK I am freaking out now. Trav's snake will be here tomorrow and mine is shipping out tomorrow! I will have my baby coral albino in my hands on Thursday!!!!

RegenerationRep

10-18-11, 06:52 PM

Awesome Coral Albino! Have fun with them.

KrazyKat

10-18-11, 09:25 PM

OK I am freaking out now. Trav's snake will be here tomorrow and mine is shipping out tomorrow! I will have my baby coral albino in my hands on Thursday!!!!

WOOHOO!!! :D That's soooo exciting, I know I would be freaking out too!! It's such a great feeling, that excited anticipation...also drives u slightly crazy, but it's worth it, cuz in the end it all culminates into one AWESOME moment when u finally see/hold your new baby snake for the first time :) Congrats again!! :)

Gungirl

10-19-11, 06:51 AM

Thanks everyone. I will be sure to post pics of them when they arrive!!

Gungirl

10-19-11, 09:17 AM

Ok So here is the little guy my hubby bought. He was cold when he got here but seems to be doing great otherwise. I love his colors and peppering. The camera did not do him justice but i didn't want to mess with him much. I will post more pics once he is settled in and has eaten for us.
http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee454/KAMacie/DSCF0250.jpg
http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee454/KAMacie/DSCF0251.jpg
http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee454/KAMacie/DSCF0252.jpg
http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee454/KAMacie/DSCF0254.jpg
http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee454/KAMacie/DSCF0255.jpg

alessia55

10-19-11, 09:19 AM

awww he is adorable!!! (AND TOMORROW IS THE DAY YOUR CORAL ONE ARRIVES!!!) Congrats on both :) :) Can't wait to see more photos as they settle in!

Will0W783

10-19-11, 09:21 AM

What a handsome little guy- he's so tiny! Soo cute!

TMacie

10-19-11, 09:38 AM

I cant wait to get home to see him!

Gungirl

10-19-11, 09:55 AM

I cant wait to get home to see him!

Hehe He was roaming all over his tub. He sat on the heat pad for a few min then drank water for about 3 min and is now snuggled in his hot hide. Poor little thing was super cold when I took him out of the snake bag.

Gungirl

10-19-11, 10:03 AM

awww he is adorable!!! (AND TOMORROW IS THE DAY YOUR CORAL ONE ARRIVES!!!) Congrats on both :) :) Can't wait to see more photos as they settle in!

Lol Thanks Alessia, I can't wait until mine gets here too. I don't think I'm going to sleep well tonight. At least I can admire the hubbies new boa.

KrazyKat

10-19-11, 10:06 AM

AWWW!!! Soooooo freakin cute!! :D LOVE the 4th pic, lookin up at his new mamma, no doubt ;) Congrats Kat!!

Gungirl

10-19-11, 10:07 AM

AWWW!!! Soooooo freakin cute!! :D LOVE the 4th pic, lookin up at his new mamma, no doubt ;) Congrats Kat!!

Thanks Kat! I can't wait for Travis to get home from work and see him.. gah its great.

Jenn_06

10-19-11, 10:29 AM

awww he is soooo cute i miss when my boas was that smell.

minaa

10-19-11, 10:35 AM

I can't wait to see that coral albino! :D It looks like your other boa is settling in just fine, though. What a good snake!

millertime89

10-19-11, 10:55 AM

Such a cute little boa, makes me want one even more.

Gungirl

10-19-11, 11:43 AM

awww he is soooo cute i miss when my boas was that smell.

Smell? haha that made me giggle. I know you meant small but i can only imagine their poop when they get big..ewww

Jenn_06

10-19-11, 11:53 AM

lol not easy being on the computer with a kid trying to talk to you at the same time.

yes the poop is no fun want to clean after a retic or burm? lol

Gungirl

10-19-11, 11:56 AM

lol not easy being on the computer with a kid trying to talk to you at the same time.

yes the poop is no fun want to clean after a retic or burm? lol

I hear ya.... my son likes to help me type often.

:sorry:Umm no thanks. I think I would rather shovel cow crap.....haha

My BP is my largest snake and he is only 36ish inches right now.. i have a while before I have to deal with the large poops

millertime89

10-19-11, 12:35 PM

grab a shovel.

Gungirl

10-20-11, 09:01 AM

Ok guys he is here!!! I didn't get great pics seeing as he was pretty scared and stressed. Once he settles in and eats I will get more pics. He was born on aug. 17...still needs a name?
http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee454/KAMacie/DSCF0266.jpg
http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee454/KAMacie/DSCF0269.jpg
http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee454/KAMacie/DSCF0270.jpg

KrazyKat

10-20-11, 09:14 AM

Awww what a cutie!!! Love his saddles, they remind me of butterflies - very handsome little guy! :) You must be sooo happy you finally have him home! :D

alessia55

10-20-11, 09:30 AM

He is beautiful!! Congrats! :) When he is settled in I'm sure we'll get to see more photos of him right? :D

Jenn_06

10-20-11, 09:33 AM

Wow he is a looker, you picked a very nice one. Can't wait to see him grow.

Gungirl

10-20-11, 09:56 AM

Thanks Alessia, Kat and Jenn! Alessia- yes you will get to see a lot more of them once they eat and settle down. I am really happy with both the boa's!

Gungirl

10-21-11, 12:55 PM

So these guys have names now. Hubby is calling his Loki and I named mine Beza.

alessia55

10-21-11, 12:59 PM

So these guys have names now. Hubby is calling his Loki and I named mine Beza.

Great names, I like it!

marvelfreak

10-21-11, 01:07 PM

Congrats his Beautiful.

Gungirl

10-21-11, 01:13 PM

Congrats his Beautiful.

Thanks! We are very happy with them!

Great names, I like it!

Thanks

Gungirl

10-21-11, 06:08 PM

Here are a few more from the other night...
http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee454/KAMacie/DSCF0285.jpg
http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee454/KAMacie/DSCF0286.jpg
http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee454/KAMacie/DSCF0292.jpg
http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee454/KAMacie/DSCF0297.jpg
http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee454/KAMacie/DSCF0302.jpg
http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee454/KAMacie/DSCF0303.jpg

exwizard

10-21-11, 06:12 PM

Yeah its great seeing morph boas and these two look awesome, especially the coral albino :)

Gungirl

10-21-11, 06:23 PM

Yeah its great seeing morph boas and these two look awesome, especially the coral albino :)

...Thanks!

alessia55

10-21-11, 06:38 PM

Aww they're so little! They're going to get big, fast. They look great :yes: Congrats again

millertime89

10-21-11, 07:25 PM

their not there. its been bothering me for a while, just fyi.

alessia55

10-21-11, 07:43 PM

their not there. its been bothering me for a while, just fyi.

referring to whose post? I can't find any spelling their-they're-there mistakes on this page

millertime89

10-21-11, 07:46 PM

referring to whose post? I can't find any spelling their-they're-there mistakes on this page

Thread title, its one of my pet peeves.

alessia55

10-21-11, 07:51 PM

Thread title, its one of my pet peeves.

Ohhh hahaha yes, I see what you mean

Gungirl

10-22-11, 06:11 AM

Doh... I normally get annoyed with people spelling those words wrong also. I was in such a tizzy being excited to get my new guys that I went special. lol....Wayne can you fix the title please?

KORBIN5895

10-22-11, 07:52 AM

Hey Gungirl. I have kinda been going through the thread but I haven't noticed what your husband's boa is. It looks alot like mine which I originally bought as a common columbian. Thanks!

KORBIN5895

10-22-11, 07:53 AM

Oh and the coral is gorgeous!

Gungirl

10-22-11, 07:55 AM

Hey Gungirl. I have kinda been going through the thread but I haven't noticed what your husband's boa is. It looks alot like mine which I originally bought as a common columbian. Thanks!

He bought his as a red group...whatever that really implies.

Thanks for the compliments. I love my little coral boy, He is full of attitude too. It's great!

KORBIN5895

10-22-11, 07:58 AM

Red group????? Can someone clarify please. All I was looking for was a boa when I started. So I am not up much on all the morphs........... on anything! Lol!

Gungirl

10-22-11, 08:04 AM

The only thing I have been told and I'm not sure of the truth behind this is that red group boa's tend to keep more of their color( and it even darkens sometimes) as they age. Where as others loose or have there color fade. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong.....

KORBIN5895

10-22-11, 08:09 AM

Pftt. Like I have two clues. Sounds good to me. I am having a really hard time identifying what my boas are. The internet is just confusing me.

Gungirl

10-22-11, 08:13 AM

We bought from a really well known guy so I trust the line we where told we had. I just haven't looked into the morphs that much. I don't intend on breeding I just want good looking snakes. Where did you buy your Boa's from? If it was a pet store, good luck on finding out what you really have unless you breed it to see what it makes. If you got it from a good breeder they should be able to tell you what it is.

KORBIN5895

10-22-11, 08:41 AM

Pet store is where he is from. But like I said I bought him as a common. One of the workers said that his buddy bought one too because they were pastel redtails. I just found that little tis bit out last week. I do alot of business with them (buying and selling ) so I know he isn't feeding me a line. Braid a I had the snake 6 months before he told me this. So I am sure it is not a sales pitch.

millertime89

10-22-11, 04:08 PM

there's so many different boas out there, I can't even begin to tell them apart, so don't worry, you're not alone.

KORBIN5895

10-22-11, 05:51 PM

Well i showed my snakes to a breeder about an hour away. I sent them pics and they just happened to be in town and asked to stop by and see it. So my common boa ( paid like forty forging at the pet store) is believed to be a salmon minus the orange markings. Or pastel. The second is a redtail boa. But my het for albino is a motley. Does this make sense to any of you?

millertime89

10-22-11, 06:12 PM

yes
here's a motley het albino
http://explicitreptiles.com/MHAPHA_M005.jpg
(explicit reptiles)
and a pastel salmon boa
http://www.reptilechannel.com/images/article-images/pastel-boa.jpg
(the reptile channel)
not entirely sure what pastel means (still looking into morphs), I'm not sure if its lighter coloration or reduced markings or what. And motley is a way to describe the pattern, het albino means it has the albino gene, but is not albino. You can breed it with another het albino and get both albinos and normals and het albinos, or with an albino and get albinos and het albinos. Although I'm not sure if het albino boas have a show that you can see (a way to tell its het albino)

lady_bug87

10-22-11, 06:22 PM

love love the motley

KrazyKat

10-22-11, 08:35 PM

not entirely sure what pastel means (still looking into morphs), I'm not sure if its lighter coloration or reduced markings or what. And motley is a way to describe the pattern, het albino means it has the albino gene, but is not albino. You can breed it with another het albino and get both albinos and normals and het albinos, or with an albino and get albinos and het albinos. Although I'm not sure if het albino boas have a show that you can see (a way to tell its het albino)

As for a visual het albino in a motley - a good breeder told me there is one. He said that most motleys het albino's "upper half" of their eyes are very white. I cannot vouch for that statement, however, as I have not personally seen this proven out.

True pastels are polygenetic, selective breeding. They are bred for cleanness and colour. Most are light, washed-out, and nearly fleckless, but some bloodlines have the most impressive red and pink coloration you will find, Pastel x Pastel producing the best results. Many "Pastel" boas you see are normals that have been called Pastel at some point by a breeder or shop simply because it's clean, or anyhting other than the standard looking BCI grey colour, when they have no idea of the genetics behind the snakes. They simply equate clean boa to mean "Pastel".

You can often pay good money for a true pastel. The Kubsch line from Germany is a good example: (photo from Freek Nuyt)
http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g463/katgirl17/boas_kupsch_1.jpg
Like all the other Pastel lines, it acts like a dominant trait in that when bred to unrelated animals, it will produce some Pastel-like offspring. Some of the most orange & red Pastels have been created by the Kubsh line, and a "bi product" of certain breedings with these boas in Germany is another trait called “Square Tailed Boa”. There are many other Pastel lines (ie. Ronne, East Bay Vivarium, and Washington), others have been bred for more red, more pink (like the pic you attached), more cream colour, etc. Pastel is a very good gene to work with, as it will "clean up" whatever morph you are crossing it with - and the better the pastel, the better chance you will have some outstanding clean resulting morphs ;)

KrazyKat

10-22-11, 10:02 PM

Pastel is a very good gene to work with, as it will "clean up" whatever morph you are crossing it with - and the better the pastel, the better chance you will have some outstanding clean resulting morphs ;)

I would like to add: Just take for example the Pastel Salmon picture posted by millertime89 - salmons typically have a fair bit of speckling - do you see that in this morph? Nope :) It would be a nice trait to have influence bloody salmons too, come to think of it....

By the way Kat - awesome pics! I love both of your new additions :) Keep the pics coming once they are settled in ;)

KORBIN5895

10-22-11, 10:03 PM

KrazyKat

10-22-11, 11:10 PM

Well I am sure he is a motley after that pic! Awesome pic btw. Ad for the pastel
.... well........... I am not sure what you mean by clean. He has a darker brown saddle and is very pale gray. Almost white after a shed but darkens up right before a shed. He also seems to darken up when agitated. But that is probably just in my head.

Synonyms for clean include: clear, neat, tidy and spotless. Generally a snake with clear, consistent patterning (ie. defined, even saddles) with a background that is relatively "tidy" with consistent colour and little speckling/peppering is considered "clean". That's how I would define it at least.

millertime89

10-23-11, 12:10 AM

lady_bug87

10-23-11, 06:47 AM

Synonyms for clean include: clear, neat, tidy and spotless. Generally a snake with clear, consistent patterning (ie. defined, even saddles) with a background that is relatively "tidy" with consistent colour and little speckling/peppering is considered "clean". That's how I would define it at least.

Would that count as clean?

Gungirl

10-23-11, 06:55 AM

By the way Kat - awesome pics! I love both of your new additions :) Keep the pics coming once they are settled in ;)

:blink:Thanks Kat.. I almost missed your comment among the other boa chatter...lol

lady_bug87

10-23-11, 06:59 AM

yea the thread kinda went... somewhere hehe

Gungirl

10-23-11, 07:01 AM

yea the thread kinda went... somewhere hehe

Hahahe But I don't mind It's all boa talk and thats fine. I think I might just make a new thread for each my boa's for pics and what not. I like reading this stuff as well so its all good:)

KrazyKat

10-23-11, 05:57 PM

Thanks for explaining that Kat, I'll have to read it a few more times so I can know what to start looking for.
Korbin, start a new thread with your boas so some of the more knowledgeable people can give their opinions.

Your very welcome, always happy to share knowledge and talk boas :)

Would that count as clean?

Yes! That I would consider a beautiful, clean boa :)

:blink:Thanks Kat.. I almost missed your comment among the other boa chatter...lol

Hahahe But I don't mind It's all boa talk and thats fine. I think I might just make a new thread for each my boa's for pics and what not. I like reading this stuff as well so its all good:)

No problem - and my apologies for the part I had to play in "hijacking" your thread! :sorry: This happens SO often, and I can see it getting slightly irritating to the thread starters - but glad that you enjoy the chatter! If you make a new thread just for them, I will be sure to keep completely focused on your gorgeous boas ;)

lady_bug87

10-23-11, 06:01 PM

Thanks Kat,
she does have some peppering but its light and fairly charming

KrazyKat

10-23-11, 06:13 PM

Thanks Kat,
she does have some peppering but its light and fairly charming

Oh I agree! Actually, I find that sometimes peppering can actually ADD to the beauty of a boa sometimes. I actually said that about my Hog in this thread: http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/boa-constrictor/88539-my-hog-island-boa-evening-photoshoot.html i think you definitely have a beautiful girl, I'm green with "good natured" envy ;)

lady_bug87

10-23-11, 06:15 PM

I know I saw your Hog Island and the envy is mutual I cant wait to see if my girl keeps all the lovely blushing she has all over her... her breeder was enamored with her and told me that If I chose to breed her he had the perfect male

millertime89

10-23-11, 09:03 PM

thread hijacking ftw :P

Gungirl

10-24-11, 07:15 AM

thread hijacking ftw :P

bahahaha, yes it is so easy to do! I will let the hijacking take over.

lady_bug87

10-24-11, 08:38 AM

I'm preettty sure it already has... but how are your new babies doing?

Gungirl

10-24-11, 08:52 AM

New guys are doing fine from what I have seen. I have yet to handle them Just checking temps and doing water changes. Beza(my coral) decided to poop in his water dish. I have a feeling he is going to be the difficult one. Other than that just designing their vivs and getting hubby on board to build soon.

lady_bug87

10-24-11, 08:55 AM

yea my boa took forever to poop she still has small poops but she does them lol they certainly are a handful..

this was my attempt to direct the thread back to your new arrivals (haha)

Gungirl

10-24-11, 09:01 AM

this was my attempt to direct the thread back to your new arrivals (haha)

Lol well thank you but no worries. I actually enjoy reading about all the stuff that has been discussed in the thread. I know the husbandry needs but I never looked into the morph side of it beyond what I visually liked. I have no want/need to breed. I am however glad to have all that knowledge at my finger tips.

I think far to many people are breeding on a whim...