The arachnophobe with 2 new pet T's

[candyraver69]

Well my son has been begging for a long time to have some spiders, and I keep telling him, keep reading about them, keep reading about them... etc. He reads daily about them, educates me on his findings excitedly all the time. We watch youtubes together about them.

Well I have been frequenting a certain reptile dealer's website lately and there was an amazing deal on some 2nd instar Cobalt Blue T's. Mind you I have very little hands on experience with T's, and am pretty afraid of spiders in general, especially T's. The momma of these blew me out of the water, and I know that this species in particular are a terrible choice for beginners considering their speed and powerful venom, but considering we will not be handling them at all but by brushing them into a container to clean the enclosure... I went for it. We are now the proud new owners of two darling little slings. They arrived safely, and I got them into their enclosures without having a heart attack or harming them :P I did a little meditation number to calm my self, knowing that if I was calm and slow, they would respond accordingly, where if I jerked and freaked out, I'd end up getting my face bit off.

[stephanbakir]

Keep in mind that the ones I worked with ran up my chopstick (plastic) that I was using to guide him into a delicup.

[candyraver69]

Yeah, I have seen a bit of that in the videos. They are quick little suckers too. I am going to eventually get them into a viv with a hinged door so that if that happens, I can quickly close the door on the handle of the tongs and gently pull them out and try again.

I'm going to have my epi-pen ready at all times regardless just in case! Might not stop the terrible pain and being sick for weeks, but it could save my life if I have an allergic reaction.

[candyraver69]

I saw some really nice vivs for T's built with 10 gallon aquariums tipped up on the side, plexiglass front with vents built with screen and cut up round tupperware, then hinges maybe 5 inches up or so. I'm going to get those built pretty soon. For now they are just in some medium size tupperwares with small holes drilled, soda lids, and peat.

[stephanbakir]

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[KD35WIN.AS.ONE]

I saw some really nice vivs for T's built with 10 gallon aquariums tipped up on the side, plexiglass front with vents built with screen and cut up round tupperware, then hinges maybe 5 inches up or so. I'm going to get those built pretty soon. For now they are just in some medium size tupperwares with small holes drilled, soda lids, and peat.

It would be a waste of your time... No Haplopelma will utilize any of this space. The cages you speak of are built for arboreal species exclusively. How many inches of substrate do you currently have in there tub? How many holes do you aprox. have in the tub?

[candyraver69]

love that guy's vids, I'm subscribed to him.

right now they are each in a tupperware that is about 5 inches high by 6 inches by 6 inches, just over half full with damp peat. they are less than an inch big though. I made pre-made burrows for them, they seem to like them, but may build their own once they settle. You think a 10 gallon turned the regular way would be more appropriate for this species? After some more reading I think that may be the case, but tarantulaguy's vids he's got a lot of species in the upright tanks. If I did them upright I was going to definitely have the substrate deeper than it looks like he has, and have a little log over the borrow for them.

[candyraver69]

Oh, and there is 16 holes drilled in the lids, I figured I could drill more if that wasn't enough, but that seems to be doing the trick. It's enough that I still need to mist, but not too much that it lets too much humidity out, there is still a fine mist on the sides of the sides from condensation of heating. They are small holes.

[KD35WIN.AS.ONE]

Ok good, sounds like you got it down. Id keep them in the tupperware for awhile. Just give them plenty of room to burrow, 5 inches is fine for young ones. The only thing i can recommend to you is drill some more holes, ventilation is a serious problem for spiders, they really need about 5x more air flow then most species of snakes.

[candyraver69]

Okay I will drill some more holes, thank you for the tip. I think I may even just buy some of the vents I found on a website that sells the special T viv's and hot glue those in. In the meantime more holes for sure though :)

I fed them tonight. Those dumb crickets didn't even need directed, they walked right into the webs without any help :P My little spiderlings got them so quick I barely saw what happened :) Too cool.

I'm looking into getting some dubia roaches to feed the T's nymphs (very small ones). I hate the idea of keeping crickets, and going to buy 2 at a time is going to get annoying fast. Just need to find a reptile buddy that I can pawn adults off on every now and again hehe.

[candyraver69]

Caught Anubis hanging out on top of his burrow the other day. First I've seen all of him since I changed his enclosure. I'm estimating him at about 2 inches now. I keep saying him, but I haven't sexed him yet. Waiting on the next molt to try.

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/392619_10150362032115488_549355487_8488884_1697676 812_n.jpg

And so much for the two Cobalts. The arachnophobia is gone and replaced with arachno-insanity. I have a full blown collection now. I have become very adept at handling slings. I have a gift with them that the hubby does not posses no matter how hard he tries. I just hope that I can maintain it with adults. It seems with the little ones as long as I am calm, move slow, and can sort of predict how they will react to the way I move I can get them to go where I need them. They are fast, but as long as I get them going in the right direction that's fine! Maybe keeping snakes prepared me in a way. I learned how to pay attention to an animals body language.

[BlindOne]

It's funny how the T collecting happens, you think you'll want 1-2 T's....then maybe 10.....next thing you know you're looking at the bookcase with 60 T's in it.

Such easy critters to keep and watch, I love 'em

[lady_bug87]

my husband wants one so bad but my arachnophobia is terrible lol I thought about surprising him with one for his birthday but I seriously cannot get over the fear lol

[BlindOne]

get one T....after you've watched it not move for 72 hours straight, your fear will be replaced by boredom ;-)

[ZARADOZIA]

Braver than I am. Allergic reaction is another fear of mine, especially after last year. I was outside with my neighbors talking on the front porch and rested my foot in our mulched flower bed. The next thing I know I feel something bite/sting the side of my leg and feels like it is on fire, then I felt something bite/sting my eye, I'm jumping up slapping at my face and leg like a crazy person!

I was stung 5 times by ground hornets. 3 times in my leg, 1 time on my upper brow line and 1 time on my lower brow line. Thank god for wearing glasses or else it would have been in my eye.

I'm allergic to Benadryl so I bought a different class of antihistamine, well, that was a very bad idea because it turns out I am allergic to ALL H1-blockers (this is when and how I found out).
My face swelled up so bad I looked like I went 5 rounds with Evander and didn't get one punch in. My leg swelled to the size of a softball. Had to go to doc and after she ran a bunch of tests and noted that my blood oxygen levels were extremely low she placed me on steroids and gave me Epi-pens.

Great way to learn what I am allergic to…BLEH Now anything that is venomous and can bite or sting I steer clear of. I have never been stung or bit by anything before…figures the one time I am that I would be allergic to the medication I used to help but ended up making everything even worse!

[snake man12]

I have a rose hair tarantula. Sadly my cobalt died 2 years ago he was a feisty little sucker. The rosie is 8 years old now its a female so I expect another 8 good years with her

[alessia55]

Ah I could never own a spider... what do they all eat?

[snake man12]

Crickets with gut load that's it

[lady_bug87]

I'm considering it.... I keep going back and forth about it

[BlindOne]

Braver than I am. Allergic reaction is another fear of mine, especially after last year.

Tarantula venom is so basic that you can't get an allergic reaction to it. It hurts like hell but there's no risk of anaphylaxis.

[BlindOne]

Crickets with gut load that's it

Never gut loaded my crix with the T's.....think that's more of a thing with lizards...

[candyraver69]

Braver than I am. Allergic reaction is another fear of mine, especially after last year. I was outside with my neighbors talking on the front porch and rested my foot in our mulched flower bed. The next thing I know I feel something bite/sting the side of my leg and feels like it is on fire, then I felt something bite/sting my eye, I'm jumping up slapping at my face and leg like a crazy person!

I was stung 5 times by ground hornets. 3 times in my leg, 1 time on my upper brow line and 1 time on my lower brow line. Thank god for wearing glasses or else it would have been in my eye.

I'm allergic to Benadryl so I bought a different class of antihistamine, well, that was a very bad idea because it turns out I am allergic to ALL H1-blockers (this is when and how I found out).
My face swelled up so bad I looked like I went 5 rounds with Evander and didn't get one punch in. My leg swelled to the size of a softball. Had to go to doc and after she ran a bunch of tests and noted that my blood oxygen levels were extremely low she placed me on steroids and gave me Epi-pens.

Great way to learn what I am allergic to…BLEH Now anything that is venomous and can bite or sting I steer clear of. I have never been stung or bit by anything before…figures the one time I am that I would be allergic to the medication I used to help but ended up making everything even worse!

Oh no! I thought I had the weirdest allergies ever... but an allergy to benadryl? You poor thing! Glad you got it all figured out without something worse happening.

[candyraver69]

Never gut loaded my crix with the T's.....think that's more of a thing with lizards...

I gut load my roaches but way differently than you would for a lizard. Calcium is not a good thing for T's so calcium gutload would be detrimental rather than helpful. You want high protein basically, so really high protein kitten food is good gutload for T food.

[alessia55]

Pardon my ignorance... What does "gut loading" a cricket mean?

[Gungirl]

Pardon my ignorance... What does "gut loading" a cricket mean?

Feeding the cricket before feeding the cricket to your pet. ( filling its gut with goods)

[alessia55]

Feeding the cricket before feeding the cricket to your pet. ( filling its gut with goods)

I see. What and How do you feed a cricket?

[Gungirl]

For the most part anything that is good for your pet that you will be feeding the cricket to. I know oranges are commonly used as well as most veggies.

[alessia55]

Thanks for the info Kat!

[DragonsEye]

I'm considering it.... I keep going back and forth about it

How about this?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v41/obeah/critters/Aversicoloronhandsm.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v41/obeah/critters/Aversiclor1sm.jpg

how can you possible be scared of a bright blue spider with big feet? :D

Never gut loaded my crix with the T's.....think that's more of a thing with lizards...

Not at all. Crickets should always be gutloaded no matter what your feeding them to. Pet store crickets are typically kept alive with a chunk of potatoe for their food and water source. Result is a cricket low in nutrition. Animals feeding on a properly/well fed cricket are themselves getting a more nutrious meal both frm the nutrients the cricket has absorbed as well as from what remains in the crickets stomach contents.

Btw, what type of viper is your avatar?

For the most part anything that is good for your pet that you will be feeding the cricket to. I know oranges are commonly used as well as most veggies.

Fish flake food is an excellant food source for gutloading.

[theapexgerman]

that's a pretty spider i always wanted a pet spider but Jessica would freak out

[lady_bug87]

Trust me I am I HATE spiders

[BlindOne]

Result is a cricket low in nutrition. Animals feeding on a properly/well fed cricket are themselves getting a more nutrious meal both frm the nutrients the cricket has absorbed as well as from what remains in the crickets stomach contents.

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Atheris squamigera

Interesting info about the crix, I've never gut loaded and I've been breeding T's for 4 years. I'll have to read up

[DragonsEye]

Atheris squamigera

Interesting info about the crix, I've never gut loaded and I've been breeding T's for 4 years. I'll have to read up

Gorgeous viper! Is it yours?

What T's have you been breeding? (I can guess OWs from what you said in another post. :D )

[BlindOne]

Gorgeous viper! Is it yours?

What T's have you been breeding? (I can guess OWs from what you said in another post. :D )

I'm no longer in the venomous game, I have two kids with another due any day now. I have kept Atheris in the past and they were neat little vipers. All of the tree vipers are cool - Waglers, Bush, Eyelash etc..

I've bred Tapinauchenius, Avicularia, Poecilotheria, and Psalmopoeus. I keep mostly OW stuff but 3 of the species I've bred are NW. Irony! My favs are the pokies, GBB and my Panama Blondes

Psalmopoeus pulcher
http://venomous.com/webpics/2010/P_pulcher.jpg

[jarich]

Wow, thats a beautiful spider! I havent had any for years but now youre making me jealous.

[DragonsEye]

I've bred Tapinauchenius, Avicularia, Poecilotheria, and Psalmopoeus. I keep mostly OW stuff but 3 of the species I've bred are NW. Irony! My favs are the pokies, GBB and my Panama Blondes

Psalmopoeus pulcher
http://venomous.com/webpics/2010/P_pulcher.jpg

That is ironic. I had assumed OW since you mentioned keeping them.

Nice P. pulcher. Recently my P. irminia sling molted. I believe the poor bugger is deluded. Seems to think it is either a purse spider or a Haplo --- always hiding in its burrow and waiting until a cricket is actually dancing on its tube web before trying ot attack.

[BlindOne]

That is ironic. I had assumed OW since you mentioned keeping them.

Nice P. pulcher. Recently my P. irminia sling molted. I believe the poor bugger is deluded. Seems to think it is either a purse spider or a Haplo --- always hiding in its burrow and waiting until a cricket is actually dancing on its tube web before trying ot attack.

My irminia have huge dirt curtains and you wouldn't know they were there except for the little hole at the very top of the cork bark. Too bad they're hidey spideys, they're very attractive.