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Nismo89
08-12-11, 06:36 PM
So I've narrowed it down between the two snakes in the picture below that I will be getting. Both are females and were born late January the one on the left is a normal and the right is a supposed high orange morph. So now I'm just trying to decide if I should shell out the extra $100 for the one on the right because it is a supposed morph.

Snakefood
08-12-11, 07:05 PM
I wouldn't (just me tho) It doesn't seem "different" enough for that large of a price gap!! They are both gorgeous!!!!

Nismo89
08-12-11, 07:49 PM
I wouldn't (just me tho) It doesn't seem "different" enough for that large of a price gap!! They are both gorgeous!!!!

I agree with you that there isn't much of a difference the only really difference is the one on the left has slightly brighter orange spots but not enough for me to personally justify spending that much more. I'm pretty certain I'll be getting the one on the left just thought I'd share a pic of my soon to be new addition

shaunyboy
08-12-11, 08:39 PM
i don't know anything about brb morph's but.....

ask to see pictures of the parents,as 1 or both may be visual examples of this high orange morph

that said,the parents may not be visual though,if both parents were het for the morph

i'm sure some of the experienced brb keepers on here will be able to tell you if there is such a morph present in brb's

you could always treat yourself and buy both ;)

joking aside,if you find out there is no such thing as a high orange morph in brb's,i'd walk away and NOT buy any of them.if the guys told you lies about that then theres no telling what other untrustworthy things he's capable of

cheers shau,

natsamjosh
08-12-11, 09:15 PM
As far as I know, "high orange" is not a morph, at least in the traditional sense of a morph being a single gene pair mutation that is predictably reproducible. Also, with BRB's, there's no guarantee the snake won't change color as it gets older. I guess it would help to see the parents. Actually, did they have the same mother and father?? Imo, I wouldn't pay the extra $100 either, I'd take the cheaper one. It is a beautiful snake in its own right, and it might be nicer than the other one a few years down the road anyway.

Nismo89
08-12-11, 10:27 PM
I have seen pics of the parents and the father is quite a vibrant orange. They are both from the same litter. I have seen multiple breeders selling a high orange morph or whatever you'd like to call it. I'd def buy both if i had the space and money but unfortunately I don't

Lankyrob
08-13-11, 04:31 AM
If you are intending to breed them in the future then having the "high orange" may improve the profits you make down the line. If it is just a "pet" snake then pick the one you like best!

stephanbakir
08-13-11, 05:53 AM
If you are intending to breed them in the future then having the "high orange" may improve the profits you make down the line. If it is just a "pet" snake then pick the one you like best!
^this, the only advantages of having a morph as a pet, if you don't prefer the colors is possible future resale value and trade value.

Nismo89
08-13-11, 06:44 PM
If you are intending to breed them in the future then having the "high orange" may improve the profits you make down the line. If it is just a "pet" snake then pick the one you like best!

I do plan on breeding some day but I want my first snake to always just be a pet. Someday I will spend the extra and get a few morphs and when I do breed I'm not going to be doing it for the money it will be for the experience.

natsamjosh
08-13-11, 09:13 PM
I have seen pics of the parents and the father is quite a vibrant orange. They are both from the same litter. I have seen multiple breeders selling a high orange morph or whatever you'd like to call it. I'd def buy both if i had the space and money but unfortunately I don't

I'm no expert, but if they are from the same parents I would buy the cheaper one. BRB's often change color as they grow (sometimes for the better, sometimes not), so it's hard to predict what each will look like a few years down the road. Both will be nice, I'm sure, but the cheaper one could be just as, if not more, pretty as the other one.

ladyjustice33
08-13-11, 10:01 PM
I think they are both beautiful, so I'd just handle both and go with the one I liked better. I was looking at a BRB and a CRB and money wasn't as issue. I went with the CRB because there was something about him I just liked better.

SnakeyJay
08-14-11, 02:04 PM
Go with the cheaper one. As far as im aware "high orange" is more a trait of a singular animal rather than a morph.. Brb's have such vibrant markings anyway so either will be awesome as an adult.

Snakesitter
08-16-11, 06:48 AM
As far as I know, "high orange" is not a morph, at least in the traditional sense of a morph being a single gene pair mutation that is predictably reproducible. Also, with BRB's, there's no guarantee the snake won't change color as it gets older.
Ed is 100% accurate, and I'm disappointed that people keep calling the more colorful oranges and reds "morphs."

*If* you are sure you want to breed, however, the extra money for the better looking baby may be worth it...just be aware, as Ed noted, Brazilians DO change as they age, and the cheaper one may end up being the nicer snake in the end.

Dehlida
08-16-11, 10:46 AM
It's not genetic, it may not stay with age, you're paying for the same snake either way, get the cheaper one.

Nismo89
08-16-11, 12:23 PM
Thanks all that info will help in the future for sure. I ended up getting a BRB from a different breeder though paid less than what the person with these snakes was asking and she's just as good looking. I was able to snap one pic of my snake earlier while changing the water. Here she is...

Snakesitter
08-16-11, 02:55 PM
Congrats again, Nismo. While you you seem to have done well, however, readers should keep in mind that you get what you pay for. I see plenty of dealers offering a few Brazilians as a sideline to their "regular" snakes, and rarely do they know enough to provide expert advice on the species. Plus, the specialized breeders usually have better bloodstock, lineage records, and more selection.

Dehlida, color does have a genetic basis. It's just subject to the possibility of a change in either direction. :-)