Boa Constrictor Identification

[Jay]

Here is a great chart I found. I personally prefer "true red tails" (bcc) over the bci, but there are also some nice bcis. I just thought I would post this for newer members.
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/m517/jay0133/boas1.jpg
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/m517/jay0133/boas2.jpg
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/m517/jay0133/boas3.jpg
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Boa constrictor amarali, Amaral's boa
Boa constrictor constrictor, Red-tailed boa
Boa constrictor imperator, Common northern boa
Boa constrictor longicauda, Tumbes Peru boa
Boa constrictor melanogaster, Ecuadorian boa
Boa constrictor nebulosa, Dominican clouded boa
Boa constrictor occidentalis, Argentine boa (locally known as lampalagua, ampalagua or boa de las vizcacheras) [3]
Boa constrictor orophias, St. Lucia boa
Boa constrictor ortonii, Orton's boa
Boa constrictor sabogae, Pearl Island boa

[KD35WIN.AS.ONE]

you might want to explain the chart alittle more. I as i would guess alot of people on here dont know all these scientific names lol. I like charts like this but i cant understand it.

[NennaMeerkat]

Pretty but *scratches head*

[Jay]

I still don't get how its confusing ?
I just made the image clear.

[KD35WIN.AS.ONE]

I still don't get how its confusing ?
I just made the image clear.


The names...

[stephanbakir]

Love it, thanks man!

[Jay]

Sorry names are common, they are localitys. Columbia, Suriname/Guyana, Hog Island. Around here that's what there names are I'm not sure what else you would address them as

Boa constrictor amarali, Amaral's boa
Boa constrictor constrictor, Red-tailed boa
Boa constrictor imperator, Common northern boa
Boa constrictor longicauda, Tumbes Peru boa
Boa constrictor melanogaster, Ecuadorian boa
Boa constrictor nebulosa, Dominican clouded boa
Boa constrictor occidentalis, Argentine boa (locally known as lampalagua, ampalagua or boa de las vizcacheras)
Boa constrictor orophias, St. Lucia boa
Boa constrictor ortonii, Orton's boa
Boa constrictor sabogae, Pearl Island boa

[KD35WIN.AS.ONE]

yea i understand the countries... and that most of them are ______ (country) Red Tail Boa. But there's alot im unfamiliar with like several on the bottom half. Guess i should have been more specific. I dont want you to feel like im being negative cause it was nice o see and i actually learned what i think to be one of my friends is now Orophias but like i said that name doesnt mean much to me.. Does it have a more common name?

[Gungirl]

wow I love that chart... now if only there was one that told you how big they all get...
see you give us something and we all want more now!:crazy2:

[KD35WIN.AS.ONE]

Boa constrictor amarali, Amaral's boa
Boa constrictor constrictor, Red-tailed boa
Boa constrictor imperator, Common northern boa
Boa constrictor longicauda, Tumbes Peru boa
Boa constrictor melanogaster, Ecuadorian boa
Boa constrictor nebulosa, Dominican clouded boa
Boa constrictor occidentalis, Argentine boa (locally known as lampalagua, ampalagua or boa de las vizcacheras)
Boa constrictor orophias, St. Lucia boa
Boa constrictor ortonii, Orton's boa
Boa constrictor sabogae, Pearl Island boa


Awesome thats exactly what i was speaking of. I would have never known the "melanogaster" was a Ecudorian. Usefull info especially for me cause ive always loved RTB's and they were the first snake i ever owned, for 10+ years.

[KrazyKat]

The Amarali's are from Bolivia, right? Or am I mistaken?

[Lankyrob]

As a non-boa guy that is extremely helpful!!! Thanks Jay - will save that chart for future reference!

[KrazyKat]

As a non-boa guy that is extremely helpful!!! Thanks Jay - will save that chart for future reference!

Also, agreed!! This chart is really great, thanks for posting it jay:)

[Jay]

The Amarali's are from Bolivia, right? Or am I mistaken?

Boa constrictor amarali:
southeast Bolivia, southern and southwest Brazil

Boa constrictor amarali, Bolivia:
southeast Bolivia

Boa constrictor amarali Brazil:
southern and southwest Brazil

[KrazyKat]

Boa constrictor amarali:
southeast Bolivia, southern and southwest Brazil

Boa constrictor amarali, Bolivia:
southeast Bolivia

Boa constrictor amarali Brazil:
southern and southwest Brazil

Ah, I see! So Bolivia and Brazil. Thanks for the info!:)

[SnakeyJay]

Cool chart.. I think mines a common northern lol.

[Jay]

Most likely, they are the most common sold in the trade.

[SnakeyJay]

Is that a bad thing if its a,normal north? Just wondering.

[stephanbakir]

The fact that its a reptile makes it sexy :)

[Gungirl]

Is that a bad thing if its a,normal north? Just wondering.

If you like it then no..

[SnakeyJay]

Lol.. Ofcourse I do, but I like to know what I have.

[Gungirl]

Lol.. Ofcourse I do, but I like to know what I have.

you have a beautiful snakey!! :p

[Jay]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. By no means was I insulting you. I hate albinos but 80% of the reptile industry love them. I love a nice dark snake that looks like he was picked out from the wild. Again just personal preference.

[ladyjustice33]

Here is a great chart I found. I personally prefer "true red tails" (bcc) over the bci, but there are also some nice bcis. I just thought I would post this for newer members.


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Boa constrictor amarali, Amaral's boa
Boa constrictor constrictor, Red-tailed boa
Boa constrictor imperator, Common northern boa
Boa constrictor longicauda, Tumbes Peru boa
Boa constrictor melanogaster, Ecuadorian boa
Boa constrictor nebulosa, Dominican clouded boa
Boa constrictor occidentalis, Argentine boa (locally known as lampalagua, ampalagua or boa de las vizcacheras) [3]
Boa constrictor orophias, St. Lucia boa
Boa constrictor ortonii, Orton's boa
Boa constrictor sabogae, Pearl Island boa


Okay, since I absolutely love the boas, I need to make sure I understand one thing.......The BCC Columbia versus the BCI Columbia (pretty sure that isn't how it was spelled), what exactly is the difference?? The number of saddles, size, color, temperment???

[Jay]

Okay, since I absolutely love the boas, I need to make sure I understand one thing.......The BCC Columbia versus the BCI Columbia (pretty sure that isn't how it was spelled), what exactly is the difference?? The number of saddles, size, color, temperment???

Read this;

A report about Boa constrictor from Colombia by Dr. Ian Stephan
Colombia is a large country. It is one of the world's hotspots for plant and animal diversity, and has a wide variety of habitats. Two major habitats dominate Colombia, the upland area of the Andes, and the lowland area of Amazonia and the Llanos. Now as anyone who understands speciation knows, such differing habitats and physical barriers often lead to the 'creation' of new subspecies and species. Or at least, the separation of species and subspecies.

In Colombia there are two subspecies of Boa Constrictor: imperator and constrictor. It may even be possible that longicauda reaches Colombia (will leave this one out here for now!). Imperator is the form found west of the Andes, in the Pacific region and in the northern Caribbean region.
Constrictor is the eastern / lowland form, present in the Llanos (Orinoco) and Amazonian regions. There is of course some intergradtion between these two forms and both have been found in
the areas outside of their usual limits.

The subspecies imperator ranges north towards (see map) Mexico, northeast to Venezuela, and south to Peru, and perhaps Bolivia. Constrictor ranges west to Ecuador, south to Peru and
Bolivia, east to Brazil, Venezuela, Guyana, Surinam and French Guiana.

Naturally, within such a large area, both subspecies display a huge degree of variation in both colouration, morphology, and meristics (scale counts). It is also VERY important to remember
that even within a particular area, that this species is highly variable.

For many years boas have been imported from Colombia, although it's been a long time since they have left via the Amazonian region. Therefore, the majority of imports are all imperator. The common boa. The 'Colombian' Boa. This is not to say that Bcc does not occur in Colombia.
Few people in the US probably have pure B.c.c's from Colombia.

I will make a brief note about the Leticia boa here. Recently a trend has started, probably driven by financial reasons, to sell a certain look of Boa constrictor as a 'Leticia' boa. Now not one of these Leticia's looks anything like a boa you'll ever see in Leticia and the name is clearly misleading.

I have read various posts on this site how the Leticia boa is an integrade of B.c.c. and B.c.i., but I can assure you it is nothing of the sort. Leticia is deep within Amazonia (see map) and very
close to Iquitos. I am sure nobody here that Iquitos boas were imperators?
So why should the boas from Leticia be such?

Many years ago many B.c.c's did leave Leticia. However, these were collected over a wide area, and not just from the vicinity of Leticia. But, the boas leaving via Leticia WERE B.c.c.

Trade routes within Amazonia dictate that any B.c.i leaving Leticia would have been an unusual occurance (The majority of B.c.i's leaving Colombia come from the
north (Cartagena / Barranquilla region).

[Jay]

BUMP, I've seen a few threads looking for identification of Boas.....

[Gungirl]

Good call Jay I just went to dig this thread up as well. It is a great one!

[KORBIN5895]

The fact that its a reptile makes it sexy :)

Ummm...... I think this statement would mean more coming from a woman.
As soon as I can post pics I will let you tell me what they are as I found out the breeder is actually a crackpot. I think they are bci crawley Cay.

[Jay]

Ummm...... I think this statement would mean more coming from a woman.
As soon as I can post pics I will let you tell me what they are as I found out the breeder is actually a crackpot. I think they are bci crawley Cay.
Where did you purchase the Boa's and how much did you spend?

[SnakeyJay]

Theres caulker cay and crawl cay island boa's. There was a few caulker at the expo last month.. i think theyre the true dwarf boa's.

[KORBIN5895]

Well to be honest I am extremely cheap. So...... I got my first one at pets-unlimited. I paid $212 for a 2ft cubed exoterra terrarium substrate and snake. So the snake was priced at 80 , the coco husk was 6 ans the terrarium was $179 ish. I bought him as a common boa. The second one I got for free with a 20 gallon tank. The guy had an add on kijiji saying to contact him. He was moving and was giving him away because it was vicious. I showed up at his place and said some else offered him 50 but couldn't get it for 2 weeks. I told him to call me if the dude backed out. I didn't even get to my van and he said just take it. Then asked for money for smokes but I had no cash on me so he was SOL. The third one I traded a male bearded dragon for.

[infernalis]

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