Next snake?

[Bamagecko]

I don't know about here, but on another forum I'm on there are a crap load of these threads all of a sudden.

Anyway, I've been looking into getting a second snake for a few months now. I will have been keeping reptiles for a year this May, and my current collection is three crested geckos and a brooks x goini kingsnake. I am looking for a second snake, and since I already own a colubrid, I would like a constrictor of some sort for variety. My choices are currently narrowed down to Ball Python, Children's Python, Rosy boa, and hogg island boa. I would like something relatively easy and under six feet.

So, what do you think?

[mistersprinkles]

Probably would suggest the Ball Python.

[DeesBalls]

i say corn snake... :)

but since i didn't read all the way, i officially change my vote to a blood python.

(i didn't see where you said that you had a colubrid)

[sickvenom]

i say corn snake... :)

but since i didn't read all the way, i officially change my vote to a blood python.

(i didn't see where you said that you had a colubrid)

bloods can get around 8' long.

[sickvenom]

i say go for a kenyan sand boa, or even a rubber boa. i love rubber boas, but you don't see too many of them in the trade.

[DeesBalls]

bloods can get around 8' long.

ah, did not know that, lol sorry, i know nothing about bloods.

[Max713]

Ever considered a Carpet? I'm bias of course, but I would highly suggest one :)

[mistersprinkles]

Carpets are more fastidious about temperature and humidity though. Also can be less predictable and more nippy. Great snakes. I had a coastal carpet once long ago.
I say if you must get a boid, get a ball python. Still less interesting than most garter snakes though in terms of actually looking at.

[Lankyrob]

bloods can get around 8' long.


That would be extremely rare - 6foot would be pretty long for a blood python. they are very heavy bodied snakes so very girthy but not particularly long - probably why they get referred to as short-tailed pythons.

[SnakeyJay]

Id go with a royal.. Theyre notmy fav snake but in terms of husbandry and general care/handling they are a good first larger snake.

[red ink]

Iran Jaya or Jungle python

[shaunyboy]

Carpets are more fastidious about temperature and humidity though. Also can be less predictable and more nippy. Great snakes. I had a coastal carpet once long ago.
I say if you must get a boid, get a ball python. Still less interesting than most garter snakes though in terms of actually looking at.

^^^^^
not trying to be cheeky mate but...

carpets have NO specific humidity requirements
(it sounds like your describing green tree pythons as what you wrote would apply to them)

carpet pythons are very forgiving if mistakes are made and are very easy to keep all in all a very hardy species

put an adult in a 4x2x2ft tank set your hot end at 84f to 86f and thats it job done

hatchlings do tend to be defensaive biters but once they grow a little and realise your not going to eat them they calm down

they come in lots of colours and patterns great feeding responses out on display most of the time

dependind on which carpet you choose they can grow from 4ft to 10 feet and they're all roughly the girth of a coke can

cheers shaun

[stephanbakir]

Bps make fantastic pets

[Bamagecko]

A few minutes after I made this thread I remembered carpets, I will defiantly look them up! They have some nice carpet integrates (Spelling?) at my local reptile shop, I think they're Jungle x coastal but they may have some pure of one or the other now. I like the looks of them, but I don't know if the larger ones get a little too big.

So I see that BPs are winning, is there a reason people like them over the childrens? Is it the looks? the morphs? temperament? My LRS has a childrens python for $160, and several normal BPs for around $40 so availability isn't really a concern. Why is the ball python better? Not saying I don't want a BP, I just feel like the childrens has a better feeding response. I'm not going to be getting into one species ATM, I prefer having a semi diverse collection, and the big thing about BPs seems to be collecting morphs. So in my case does the BP still have an advantage over the Childrens, rosy or hogg?

Thanks for all the reply's so far!

[belovedboas]

^^^^^
not trying to be cheeky mate but...

carpets have NO specific humidity requirements
(it sounds like your describing green tree pythons as what you wrote would apply to them)

carpet pythons are very forgiving if mistakes are made and are very easy to keep all in all a very hardy species

put an adult in a 4x2x2ft tank set your hot end at 84f to 86f and thats it job done

hatchlings do tend to be defensaive biters but once they grow a little and realise your not going to eat them they calm down

they come in lots of colours and patterns great feeding responses out on display most of the time

dependind on which carpet you choose they can grow from 4ft to 10 feet and they're all roughly the girth of a coke can

cheers shaun

I have to agree I find carpets to have fairly simple husbandry requirements.....40-50% humidity is what I keep mine at little higher when in blue..they can be bitey though lol:)

[sickvenom]

A few minutes after I made this thread I remembered carpets, I will defiantly look them up! They have some nice carpet integrates (Spelling?) at my local reptile shop, I think they're Jungle x coastal but they may have some pure of one or the other now. I like the looks of them, but I don't know if the larger ones get a little too big.

i have never seen an adult under 4'.

[Max713]

^^^^^
not trying to be cheeky mate but...

carpets have NO specific humidity requirements
(it sounds like your describing green tree pythons as what you wrote would apply to them)

carpet pythons are very forgiving if mistakes are made and are very easy to keep all in all a very hardy species

put an adult in a 4x2x2ft tank set your hot end at 84f to 86f and thats it job done

hatchlings do tend to be defensaive biters but once they grow a little and realise your not going to eat them they calm down

they come in lots of colours and patterns great feeding responses out on display most of the time

dependind on which carpet you choose they can grow from 4ft to 10 feet and they're all roughly the girth of a coke can

cheers shaun

Your posts are always a pleasure to read, and straight to the point!

One question, I'd have to side with sickvenom in saying, I've never seen an adult carpet anywhere near 4'. Any examples Shaun?

[mistersprinkles]

^^^^^
not trying to be cheeky mate but...

carpets have NO specific humidity requirements
(it sounds like your describing green tree pythons as what you wrote would apply to them)



I haven't kept a snake since I was driving a large plant eating dinosaur :no:

We're talking before the existance of Exo Terra, or cricket powder. Long ago, in a galaxy far away.

I find Children's pythons to be a boring snake. That's just me. The most interesting snake looking-at wise would be something like a Jungle Carpet. It's manageable and doesn't get as big as a coastal carpet. A coastal crossed with jungle might hit like six or seven feet and would need a very large living space. A Jungle won't get as long or thick. They also have the most interesting pattern (IMO). I still don't think they make as good pets as Ball Pythons, as they can be nippy, and they move around a lot more and like space. If you have said space though, and can accept likely being bitten several times while the snake is young, you can go for it.

Have you looked at something like a flame garter snake? They eat fish out of water. It's cool.

[sassy_snake_lady]

Hogg Island Boa! Woooo!

Got my first a few weeks back and got another coming soon. Awsome snakes :)

[Bamagecko]

So, you guys may have sold me on a carpet. 40-60% humidity, 88 degree temp on the warm side, 29 gallon terrarium and daily misting sound right? I want a smaller one and what I've read, coastals are the larger ones right? I want a 4-6 foot snake, I'm guessing I should look into the Irian Jayan or Jungle?

[Max713]

So, you guys may have sold me on a carpet. 40-60% humidity, 88 degree temp on the warm side, 29 gallon terrarium and daily misting sound right? I want a smaller one and what I've read, coastals are the larger ones right? I want a 4-6 foot snake, I'm guessing I should look into the Irian Jayan or Jungle?

Sounds about right, but a 29gal won't be large enough for life. If you're looking for the smallest carpet, I'd go with a male Jungle. I've seen female jungles over 8', although Jungles are definitely not a thick bodied snake, and are still very manageable even at larger sizes. Coastals/Bredli's are the largest of the carpets, I'm not really sure about the average adult IJ sizing.
Misting is only needed if you cannot naturally maintain 50-60% humidity, I mist my girls enclosure about every other day.

You can't go wrong with a carpet, they are incredible snakes, and very easy to keep :)
Like others have said, if you want to avoid the "nippy" stage, try picking up an established, one or two year old. I see sub-adult carpets on faunaclassifieds pretty regularly, some at great prices!
Arboreal Boas/Pythons - FaunaClassifieds (http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=498)

[ilovemypets1988]

im gunna think outside the box here and suggest a few snakes so bare with me:
1. western hoggie
2. woma python
3. eastern small blotched python
4. baja rosy boa
5. leopard boa
6. ETB

thas all i can think of for the time being lol

[Boss Heterodon]

Either any Pituophis species (Bulls, Gophers, Pines) or House Snakes who are HUGELY underrated. Seeing as I just pulled my husband's teeth to let me get yet another corn to go with my Caramot for next year, I doubt I'll be seeing either in our house any time soon ;)

[Jendee]

Why not a bci? imo the easiest's snake out there :D way way easier then a hog island and btw people its hog not hogg lol

[2006gt]

im with jendee, get a bci ive been holding and reading alot about bci, i just got a male my self and you can keep a male under 6 foot with feeding.heres a pic of my snakes dad, and the breeder i got my bci from the dad is 3.5-4 years old and about 4.5 feet long
http://i798.photobucket.com/albums/yy269/osmbr/016-9.jpg

[Bamagecko]

Well, Thanks for all the replies! I went to Repticon Southhaven on Sunday, and ended up with a male reduced pattern '10 Kenyan sand boa!

I'll try posting pics ones He's settled down. Thanks again for all of the suggestions!

[dshin963]

Lol what happened to under 6'?!

[Lankyrob]

Lol what happened to under 6'?!

Sand boas only get to 2-3foot max. :)

[Bamagecko]

Sand boas only get to 2-3foot max. :)

I think the " '10 " as in DOB 2010 is what confused them, I guess it's my bad haha.

[dshin963]

Ahhh yes it did I was tired :P it was after work the sentence blurred... yeaaa im sticking with that excuse :D

[Bamagecko]

Ahhh yes it did I was tired :P it was after work the sentence blurred... yeaaa im sticking with that excuse :D

Haha, Happens to all of us!