Freehandeling pro

[stephanbakir]

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Doesn't this make you wana.... :mad:

[SnakeyJay]

Omg.. Some people dont deserve the priviligr of owning snakes.. I was cringing as he dragged it over the floor.

[Max713]

Link doesn't work for me :(

EDIT: I hate Firefox, link totally worked on Crome...

Epitome of terrible retic owner?

[Reptile_Reptile]

why did he even take it out of the viv? some people...

[chydro]

im no snake expert, or nor have i owned a snake longer then a week, but i can tell that guy really cant handle her size or maintain her properly

[TeaNinja]

why did he even take it out of the viv? some people...

there was clearly a cut in the film when he "cleaned" the cage. he also talked about taking it out to clean the cage.

[Jenn_06]

ok cant he ask for help i think there was like 3 other grown ups there just watching poor snake....

[ilovemypets1988]

thas just sick, if u cant handle the size of the snake, even with others around u, then u shouldnt have it its as simple as that

[stephanbakir]

The dog kennel even had chicken wire and broken wire in it, not to mention the fact that he has no idea how to hold a snake that size.
Hes incredibly lucky the snake was patient.

[sickvenom]

Link doesn't work for me :(

EDIT: I hate Firefox, link totally worked on Crome...

it's not firefox's fault. make sure you are using their latest version (4.x.) link worked fine for me.

[sickvenom]

nothing against fat people, but he needs to put a shirt on.

[stephanbakir]

nothing against fat people, but he needs to put a shirt on.

Rofl Wasn't gona say it

[Lankyrob]

nothing against fat people, but he needs to put a shirt on.

I think there was enough things wrong with his Herping skills without having to resort to personal insults.

[sickvenom]

I think there was enough things wrong with his Herping skills without having to resort to personal insults.

it wasn't an insult about his body type (as i previously stated), it was a statement regarding fashion and etiquette.

[Lankyrob]

I would suggest that in his own yard he can wear what he likes, not aware that there is an etiquette involved in hanging out in your own home?

And i doubt that the same comment would have been made had he been "ripped" - apologies if i am wrong.

[HDreptiles]

He should not have had his snack, I mean, daughter running about like that. I wish someone would call the ASPCA on his redneck azz.

[sickvenom]

I would suggest that in his own yard he can wear what he likes, not aware that there is an etiquette involved in hanging out in your own home?

true, but then he decided to post a youtube video for the WORLD to see!!

And i doubt that the same comment would have been made had he been "ripped" - apologies if i am wrong.

you are incorrect. do you think it is wise to be around a large, aggressive breed of snake like that, without proper clothing? i don't.

[mistersprinkles]

I would suggest that in his own yard he can wear what he likes, not aware that there is an etiquette involved in hanging out in your own home?

And i doubt that the same comment would have been made had he been "ripped" - apologies if i am wrong.

No, it would. But, we especially frown on hick (pikey) fatties flopping around in their man breasts if they're making a public video.

That guy is a moron. The snake is in the sun with no way to thermoregulate in a dog crate and the fat piece of sh** who takes care of those animals is clearly clueless.
:yes:

Get its head awaaay from meeeee.

Being British, I envy you. Your level of 'societal sewage' is much smarter than it is in North America. We literally have people here who you would swear were monkeys at your local zoo. You really would. You'd be tempted to make silly faces and throw them a banana.

Pikeys are a thousand times more civilized than hicks.
These people have never seen a map, or read a book. They can not point out their (very large) country on a map of the world. I don't think there is one person in all of the British Isles who can not point to them on a map of the world.

I'm serious.

There are Americans who can not find their country on a map. I've met them. They also don't know where Canada and Mexico are, even though they border the United States. They also can't name all the states in their country. We call these people 'trash' or 'hicks'. Sometimes they get large snakes.

We have these kinds of people in Canada too, but luckily, they are utterly shunned by the rest of society and forced to live in pockets of similarly ignorant shirtless morons so they can rot in their own filth together. In the US they blend in and spread out :(.

I say rescue the snakes, and turn the hicks into rat scented sausages to feed to the snakes.

[Lankyrob]

PErsonally, i dont believe that anyone person has any right to insult any other person for their shape, size, sex, sexuality, disability, intelligence or personality. Have a go at how he keeps his animals yes - insult him when you don't even know the guy - NO!

[sickvenom]

have you ever seen the movie Deliverance?

[mistersprinkles]

He should not have had his snack, I mean, daughter running about like that. I wish someone would call the ASPCA on his redneck azz.

LOL @ snack

have you ever seen the movie Deliverance?

Brits are a more cultured people than we are in North America. They see Deliverance but can't believe it's actually real.



you are incorrect. do you think it is wise to be around a large, aggressive breed of snake like that, without proper clothing? i don't.

He has all that protective flab. He'll be fine.

intelligence or personality.

I absolutely reserve the right to insult people for both of these. People can't help being disabled. If you're ignorant and a douchebag, I absolutely reserve the right to call you an ignorant douchebag. :elvis:

Lankyrob- I'm not insulting him for being fat, I'm insulting him for being a fat hick douchebag. There's nothing wrong with being fat. It's just when you're a hick, people tend to take absolutely everything else about you and throw it into the insult, ie, fat bald hick douchebag.

Nothing wrong with normal people being fat or bald.

You really need to get yourself to a trailerpark in the US known for harboring hicks at some point to understand what we're saying. You will very quickly lose any respect for these people. They're not about to hatch a plan to sell you a caravan with broken axles then cleverly collapse your criminal empire like in that movie Snatch. They're just going to inbreed, abuse snakes, and die of bacon poisoning. That's it. You can't make a movie about that.

I urge you to watch family feud on youtube. They screen the families playing it to ensure that they are ignorant.

"Name a country where people go on vacation."

"EUROPE!"

"A fruit that begins with the letter 'A'"

"ARANGE!"

"An animal with four letters in its name"

"FROG!"

I understand your doubts as a British person. To further assist, I'd like to recount an incident involving British people which I have experienced.

In Madrid's airport at the snack bar, a mother and father and their teenage son were buying coffee and orange juice.

Mom- Don't I look like an orange juice seller?

Son- Ha ha.

Mom- Will wouldn't you like some toast perhaps?

Dad- Um, no, I quite like bready things but I'm not in the mood at the moment

American version

Mom- Stop picking your nose. This orange juice looks sh*tty

Son- shut up mom

Mom- Will get some toast

Dad- I don't want any leave me alone

[Jenn_06]

ok this is about how he is handling a snake not about how people look like. can we get back to the vid?

[Lankyrob]

Insulting others for whatever reason, in MY opinion, just reflects back on yourself. As Jenn said this should be about the poor snake rahter than slinging insults at a person that noone has any knowledge of.

[DeesBalls]

Insulting others for whatever reason, in MY opinion, just reflects back on yourself. As Jenn said this should be about the poor snake rahter than slinging insults at a person that noone has any knowledge of.

agreed^^

right now, i would kill to be able to handle my damn pastel ball with out it bitting at me!!! and this jacka$$ can handle this gorgeous retic with no problem..

while i give perfect husbandry and proper care i get punished by having a "mean" snake while he does everything (from what i can see ) wrong, but he gets this gental giant..

bullsh**

excuse my language, but im upset at my pastel :(

[stephanbakir]

How old is your pasel?

Just asking cuz when my male hit 2 years old he got really horny and was nippy for a long time, we put him with a fem once a year and he never nipped from that point on.

[presspirate]

I've seen a few videos like this on youtube. It astounds me that people willingly post them. I don't watch them any longer.

[infernalis]

OK I'm seeing both sides of this coin, and obviously we need to get back at the lack of husbandry skills.

we are an international forum with members from many cultures, many races & beliefs.

So it is upon each of us to respect those cultural differences and conduct ourselves in an intelligent fashion, or we all are no better than the redneck hicks in question here. ;)

So in the name of peace on the forums, let's just focus on the poor animal's lack of proper care.

[DeesBalls]

How old is your pasel?

Just asking cuz when my male hit 2 years old he got really horny and was nippy for a long time, we put him with a fem once a year and he never nipped from that point on.

Only a few months. LOl I know he will calm down soon, and he is getting better ... hasn't struck bu me for a few weeks. JUst really defensive.(always in a ball)

[TeaNinja]

lolz :)
robs right, leave the fatty be xD

[ilovemypets1988]

ok, im in agreement with rob for the insults but thas all for the people

now bk to the snake in question.

it could be possible that he believes that he is handling the snake the right way, for all we know, he hasnt been shown how to do nor will he have any experience handling snakes what so ever and have done what is very common with people and went and bought the retic without the correct knowledge.

that sed is it really our place to judge the fact that hes handling it, i agree the way hes handling the snake is wrong and the fact and condition of the cage is wrong and so is puting it on youtube but theres no need to label the person as stupid, just inexperienced, he maybe puting the snake in the cage for safety reasons due to his daughter, again unless we know the full story, its wrong to judge

[TeaNinja]

LOL, alright! lets get to THAT point then. If he was AT ALL smart he would have researched everything and understood how to properly care for the animal first, not to mention know it would get huge and he'd need people to help him carry it around. that video was just 100% dumb to me. some fat hick dragging his big nice snake across the ground alone while his family was ranting at him. my point being, if he was smart, we never would have seen such a video lol.

i know it's wrong to judge people, but if you're going to do stupid **** and post it on youtube for the WORLD to see, EXPECT TO BE JUDGED lol.

[stephanbakir]

I firmly believe that under normal circumstances when you acquire a pet its your job as the being that keeps the pet alive to first do your research and if you have questions, ask.

That being said for all we know he just got the snake as a rescue and has no idea what hes doing, assuming this its still really stupid to try and handle even a doll of a retic like that solo. One mistake and your out.

[TeaNinja]

not to mention, what if little sally decides to run in front of mr retic and he decides she's dinner!
THERES ANOTHER REASON TO BAN SNAKES lolol. O.o

[presspirate]

agreed^^

right now, i would kill to be able to handle my damn pastel ball with out it bitting at me!!! and this jacka$$ can handle this gorgeous retic with no problem..

while i give perfect husbandry and proper care i get punished by having a "mean" snake while he does everything (from what i can see ) wrong, but he gets this gental giant..

bullsh**

excuse my language, but im upset at my pastel :(

It's just the personality of your snake. Know it and accept it. My scrubs bite me repeatedly each and every time I handle them. Now, instead of bleeding I dress appropriately and don't bleed. I don't think I'd want them to be completely docile. They would not be the same snakes then.

[sassy_snake_lady]

ok, im in agreement with rob for the insults but thas all for the people

now bk to the snake in question.

it could be possible that he believes that he is handling the snake the right way, for all we know, he hasnt been shown how to do nor will he have any experience handling snakes what so ever and have done what is very common with people and went and bought the retic without the correct knowledge.

that sed is it really our place to judge the fact that hes handling it, i agree the way hes handling the snake is wrong and the fact and condition of the cage is wrong and so is puting it on youtube but theres no need to label the person as stupid, just inexperienced, he maybe puting the snake in the cage for safety reasons due to his daughter, again unless we know the full story, its wrong to judge

I disagree. Some people are just stupid. You can give them as much advice as you like again and again and again in many forms, on forums, chat rooms etc but a stupid person will ignore all the advice and do things their way.

Perfect example is the stupid person who was given lots of great advice before buying a boa then ignored the advice about quarentine and cross contanination and decided it would be funny to take a pic of his pet gecko climbing ontop of the boa then posts it on a public forum for all to see because he thinks its funny.

That person in my opinion IS stupid.

[Reptile_Reptile]

I disagree. Some people are just stupid. You can give them as much advice as you like again and again and again in many forms, on forums, chat rooms etc but a stupid person will ignore all the advice and do things their way.

Perfect example is the stupid person who was given lots of great advice before buying a boa then ignored the advice about quarentine and cross contanination and decided it would be funny to take a pic of his pet gecko climbing ontop of the boa then posts it on a public forum for all to see because he thinks its funny.

That person in my opinion IS stupid.
and in my opinion your ignorant, you cant just call somebody stupid, i mean you can but thats rude. You do not know if this guy has had no training for it, you cant even get on him because of that because the snake does look relatively healthy its just his handling habits that look bad. Do you know how many retics are sold as being a smaller snake then they get huge.
calling someone stupid for not being taught the right thing is ignorant. At least the snake is alive and he is taking care of it.
you dont even know if this guy has had advice or has been taught anything.
your rude

[sassy_snake_lady]

and in my opinion your ignorant, you cant just call somebody stupid, i mean you can but thats rude. You do not know if this guy has had no training for it, you cant even get on him because of that because the snake does look relatively healthy its just his handling habits that look bad. Do you know how many retics are sold as being a smaller snake then they get huge.
calling someone stupid for not being taught the right thing is ignorant. At least the snake is alive and he is taking care of it.
you dont even know if this guy has had advice or has been taught anything.
your rude

Erm, I wasn't talking about the guy in the video! I was talking about the stupid person who put their gecko ontop of their boa for a funny pic!!! That person has been taught alot by experienced snake owners so has no excuse.

You can think i am rude all you like but I'm not stupid so I can live with that, but again like I said, I wasn't talking about the video unless the man on that put a gecko in with the snake too then yes he would also be stupid.

[Glasgow Corns]

and in my opinion your ignorant, you cant just call somebody stupid, i mean you can but thats rude. You do not know if this guy has had no training for it, you cant even get on him because of that because the snake does look relatively healthy its just his handling habits that look bad. Do you know how many retics are sold as being a smaller snake then they get huge.
calling someone stupid for not being taught the right thing is ignorant. At least the snake is alive and he is taking care of it.
you dont even know if this guy has had advice or has been taught anything.
your rude

If he has not been tought anything he is even more stupid, in this day and age there is information out there available for him to do his OWN research, Im pretty sure even nowadays we have things called books that also give information on snake keeping.

therefore even of the retic was sold as being small he would have known they get kinda big really.

[Reptile_Reptile]

Erm, I wasn't talking about the guy in the video! I was talking about the stupid person who put their gecko ontop of their boa for a funny pic!!! That person has been taught alot by experienced snake owners so has no excuse.

You can think i am rude all you like but I'm not stupid so I can live with that, but again like I said, I wasn't talking about the video unless the man on that put a gecko in with the snake too then yes he would also be stupid.
so why are you saying that in a thread about the video? sorry to bust your balls i guess. Although i saw that thread and he seemed to know that it wasnt a good idea and would never do it again.

[Reptile_Reptile]

If he has not been tought anything he is even more stupid, in this day and age there is information out there available for him to do his OWN research, Im pretty sure even nowadays we have things called books that also give information on snake keeping.

therefore even of the retic was sold as being small he would have known they get kinda big really.
yet again ignorance jeez. everybody screams about the internet not being a good place to get info but as soon as its convenient bam they should have at least used the net. how do you know that he didnt and he is now using the wrong information. that doesnt make him stupid it makes him ignorant also. and ive been to about 4 library's in my area not one carries an up to date book on snakes. one book sorry i dont remember the title or auther told me to keep my python in cool environment because it is cold blooded and doesnt like the warmth.
so all these broadened assumptions can stop. its one of my biggiest pet peeves

[Lankyrob]

^^^with you all the way jr^^^

[Glasgow Corns]

yet again ignorance jeez. everybody screams about the internet not being a good place to get info but as soon as its convenient bam they should have at least used the net. how do you know that he didnt and he is now using the wrong information. that doesnt make him stupid it makes him ignorant also. and ive been to about 4 library's in my area not one carries an up to date book on snakes. one book sorry i dont remember the title or auther told me to keep my python in cool environment because it is cold blooded and doesnt like the warmth.
so all these broadened assumptions can stop. its one of my biggiest pet peeves

may be one of your biggest peeves but in reality dumbasses are dumbasses no matter how you sugar coat it.

the long and the short of it is he is not doing himself any favours in that video, you post something publicly you take the rough with the smooth and from what I watched not going very smoothly.

[Reptile_Reptile]

I agree with you that he was not doing much right in the video, and he wasnt doing a single favor for himself.

[stephanbakir]

I was hoping to use this thread as a location to describe proper husbandry for snakes and give people useful information but it keeps deviating towards ranting.

If you are going to criticize I only ask that its productive, that you don't point any fingers and that you offer an alternative.

[stephanbakir]

A REASONABLE alternative.

[infernalis]

Since obviously I typed a post that was not even read, and the name calling and finger pointing transcends to include another thread, and this one has been reported as well as cost the forum one member who announced leaving, this subject is hereby closed to any further discussions.