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DeesBalls
04-05-11, 08:53 AM
Is this a normal??I can't tell. I may be getting him/after work today, and I'm curious to what it is.... I'm sure its a normal, I just never seen a normal...

If it is a normal, could someone post picks of an adult??

http://i805.photobucket.com/albums/yy336/DGilliland22/IMAG0837-1.jpg

Thanks!!!

I'll upload another pic of the actual one I'll be getting, this is his cage friend....

infernalis
04-05-11, 08:55 AM
not a normal.

normals have loads of red and orange.

stolen photo from internet..

http://cactusjackstrailrides.com/yahoo_site_admin/assets/images/corn-snake.180172254_std.jpg

http://cactusjackstrailrides.com/yahoo_site_admin/assets/images/corn-snake.180172254_std.jpg

Lankyrob
04-05-11, 09:04 AM
Got a feeling it might be a "Brown Anery" - dont quote me tho - pattern looks like this one but with brown instead of grey/black

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo200/Lankyrob1975/Reptiles%20Nov%202010/DSC_0072.jpg

DeesBalls
04-05-11, 09:35 AM
I'm really drawn to the color... I like it.

Damion930
04-05-11, 09:43 AM
Im gunna go with type A anethristic hard to tell when they are so young as a lot of color patterns don't fully develop until they mature

DeesBalls
04-05-11, 09:46 AM
TTHANKS YOU TwO!!!!

I'm glad to get this figured out.

Damion930
04-05-11, 09:50 AM
Anerythristic | Cornsnake Morph Gallery (http://www.cornsnakemorphgallery.com/anerythristic/)

stephanbakir
04-05-11, 09:54 AM
Whatever he turns out to be, he looks great XD

Swan
04-05-11, 10:18 AM
It's a normal my buddy has one at his shop right now about that size. Sorry but it's a normal. Unless it's het for something.

stephanbakir
04-05-11, 10:19 AM
I'm pretty sure its not a normal.

Swan
04-05-11, 10:23 AM
Dont want to make an argument out of it, but its a normal. if it means that much to you ill be going there today and ill take a pic of it and post it tonight. Its a normal.

Lankyrob
04-05-11, 11:08 AM
Absolutley definitely without a doubt not a normal, as wayne said normals are orange/red.

infernalis
04-05-11, 11:11 AM
I was going to just suck it up and move to the next thread, but I looked at that photo again, and we cannot quite blame the camera for not picking up the reds, since the colours of everything else seem balanced just fine....

Lankyrob
04-05-11, 11:14 AM
This link shows the various colours of Anery Corns

http://iansvivarium.com/morphguide/anerya/

infernalis
04-05-11, 11:27 AM
by defenition....

Anery = Recessive mutation resulting in the removal of erythrin (red) pigment.

feel free to google it. ;)

sassy_snake_lady
04-05-11, 12:18 PM
Could be a Miami phase

http://iansvivarium.com/morphguide/miami/

DeesBalls
04-05-11, 02:16 PM
thanks so much everyone..

i hate to be the person to cause an argument, but after some looking i deff. think its an anery. not a normal, normals are more red and orange, as infernalis stated earlier...

after looking at the miami phase, it looks like the baby. If it is a miami, i will buy it no matter what the fiancee says!!!! lol

heres another pic, of the cage mate ( looks the same..)

http://i805.photobucket.com/albums/yy336/DGilliland22/IMAG0838.jpg

and i took the pics with my phone, so it is a good camera, (8megapixels) i mean there is NO red on either of these snakes...

clikc the pic for a full size view, you can see the colors a tiny bit better


again, thanks everyone!

Damion930
04-05-11, 02:49 PM
Sorry swan def without a doubt not a normal corn no matter what your friend has one labled as lol that is not what a corn snake aka red rat snake looks like in the wild.Normal | Cornsnake Morph Gallery (http://www.cornsnakemorphgallery.com/normal/) ok I could be wrong and if so my bad

Marica
04-05-11, 03:30 PM
Some normals and aneries are more brownish than what's considered standard. Miami's are also quite red, so I'm not convinced of that id. My initial guess based on the first photo was caramel (http://iansvivarium.com/morphguide/caramel/) as they usually start off more brownish (which is what I'm seeing) and develop into various yellows, but the second pic has me a little confuddled. Trying to id most morphs online is quite difficult, never mind trying to id most hatchlings without a clue to lineage. Where are you getting the snake from? Are they unsure of it's morph?

stephanbakir
04-05-11, 03:35 PM
Fantastic wording there Marica!

DeesBalls
04-05-11, 03:56 PM
Some normals and aneries are more brownish than what's considered standard. Miami's are also quite red, so I'm not convinced of that id. My initial guess based on the first photo was caramel (http://iansvivarium.com/morphguide/caramel/) as they usually start off more brownish (which is what I'm seeing) and develop into various yellows, but the second pic has me a little confuddled. Trying to id most morphs online is quite difficult, never mind trying to id most hatchlings without a clue to lineage. Where are you getting the snake from? Are they unsure of it's morph?

I am getting it from Pet Co ( i know terrible store blah blah blah, but thats not the issure, i got all my snakes/beardie from pet stores but 1 and all doing great)

i have not asked. they do a guy there that is a reptile guy, so illl ask them and see what they say.

i dont really care the morph, i just want to know lol...

infernalis
04-05-11, 05:41 PM
OK I confess, mine came from petco... but here's the deal, they buy them in bulk all labeled "corn snakes" then it's up to us the buyer to chose what colour we like.

a random Miami phase from petco is very rare, and the Anery / Albinos are all mixed in together.

Heck, I seldom see a normal for sale at petco anyhow, because the mass breeding suppliers use assorted morphs as breeding stock, so virtually all corns sold at petco have one form of genetic mutation or another.

Shmoges
04-05-11, 05:42 PM
Is it a root beer??

DeesBalls
04-05-11, 06:36 PM
OK I confess, mine came from petco... but here's the deal, they buy them in bulk all labeled "corn snakes" then it's up to us the buyer to chose what colour we like.

a random Miami phase from petco is very rare, and the Anery / Albinos are all mixed in together.

Heck, I seldom see a normal for sale at petco anyhow, because the mass breeding suppliers use assorted morphs as breeding stock, so virtually all corns sold at petco have one form of genetic mutation or another.

Huh, good to know... i doubt it is a miami phase as well, im going to go look at them tomorrow, and hold one, if i dont get it i will get more pics to post so everyone can see.

when i get the go ahead from the fiancee, i will be getting him/her. I ultimatly want 3 corns, 3 balls, and my BRB, so this will finish one of the lists...

Marica
04-05-11, 07:47 PM
Good suggestion Shmoges. If you pick this one up LiL Boa get a good pic of the head, I believe the overall head shape and the size and shape of the scales on the head are some ways to help determine if it's a hybrid.

DeesBalls
04-05-11, 07:56 PM
Good suggestion Shmoges. If you pick this one up LiL Boa get a good pic of the head, I believe the overall head shape and the size and shape of the scales on the head are some ways to help determine if it's a hybrid.

will do! :) thanks!

DeesBalls
04-06-11, 09:28 AM
Two more pics I got today....the one I'm getting is the lighter one... on the 2nd pic the one that is bu an angel, you can't see the head though. Please respond quick, I'm bu the store and need to leave soon. Thanks.

http://i805.photobucket.com/albums/yy336/DGilliland22/IMAG0845.jpg

http://http://i805.photobucket.com/albums/yy336/DGilliland22/IMAG0846.jpg

DeesBalls
04-06-11, 09:28 AM
http://i805.photobucket.com/albums/yy336/DGilliland22/IMAG0846.jpg

infernalis
04-06-11, 09:31 AM
Anery corn.. get it, it looks good.

DeesBalls
04-06-11, 09:34 AM
Thanks!! Will do!!

Lankyrob
04-06-11, 10:53 AM
Anery corn.. get it, it looks good.


Cant agree more!!:yes::):Wow: