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popcorn
03-27-11, 10:12 PM
Hi I got a GTP about 3 days ago .. My breeder told me hes been eating frozen pinkies. I tried to feed him today.. He didnt eat. all he did was pushed up against it he didn't really strike at it .. I know that u should leave him alone for a week at least .. But It's my concern that he's not eating temp and humity is normal around 87 daytime and 80 % . Any tip would help .. When I got my corns they ate the third day without even thinking.. I m just a little concern that he won't last long.. So please give me some tips on what to do .. Thanks
TeaNinja
03-27-11, 10:21 PM
you're probably just being paranoid for no reason. if the temp and humidity is normal he'll eat when he's hungry.
do you know when he last ate? maybe you're feeding him too soon.
also maybe he doesn't want to eat because he's not used to his new home yet.
popcorn
03-27-11, 11:03 PM
you're probably just being paranoid for no reason. if the temp and humidity is normal he'll eat when he's hungry.
do you know when he last ate? maybe you're feeding him too soon.
also maybe he doesn't want to eat because he's not used to his new home yet.
i know i m being paranoid..he ate last wedenday before he hot shipped out on thursday...then i got him on friday..he is a great looking guy.. but expensive i m just afraid that he wont make it.. i work in a pet store and i had seen so many pythons came in and wouldnt eat and got skinny and died.. i hope it will turn out right for me on my very first GTP....how do u guys feed your GTPs? i can hold my corn snakes in my hand with just give him the pinkies and they will take it from there..gently! corns are easy to feed
TeaNinja
03-27-11, 11:15 PM
i do not own a gtp, but many people here do and can give great advice.
what i CAN tell you is you do not need to feed your snake if it just ate on wednesday. a baby snake should eat around every 5-7 days imo. i would also think if he was shipped he should DEFINETLY be allowed that week to calm down. being put in a box and shipped is without a doubt stressful.
popcorn
03-27-11, 11:32 PM
i do not own a gtp, but many people here do and can give great advice.
what i CAN tell you is you do not need to feed your snake if it just ate on wednesday. a baby snake should eat around every 5-7 days imo. i would also think if he was shipped he should DEFINETLY be allowed that week to calm down. being put in a box and shipped is without a doubt stressful.
yeah i understand that... i will let her rest first.. could not control meself lol hope he will eat next time i feed..what u told me is what i would tell my customers..but when it comes to my snakes i m just over reacting and concern lol even my co worker told me that i m just being paranoid lol
TeaNinja
03-28-11, 12:15 AM
don't even try to feed for another week though forsure. if you keep trying to force food on a snake that doesn't want to eat it can get even more stressed out.
popcorn
03-28-11, 12:42 AM
dont they come down from trees at night and go on hunt on floor bedding? mine is still on tree sleeping...maybe he is stessed out ..better just leave him alone huh?
Damion930
03-28-11, 01:00 AM
As hard as it is yes hands off lol give em time to settle it'll be ok without food for quite some time so try not to worry.
Lankyrob
03-28-11, 03:38 AM
Your temps sound about right, with the humidity do you keep it constant or is it on a cycle? In the wild dfuring the day the humidity will rise and fall. I spray my guy up to about 80% in the morning and evening but in between it drops to a low of about 60%. Constant high humidity can be as bad as no humidity at all.
With feeding they are best left on their perch with a nice hot food item coming at them from below - they will hang from their tail and eat upside down.
I feed my guy every 14 days - they are quite lazy snakes and prone to fat if fed too often.
You definitely dont want to hassle him too much - GTP;s are pretty much show snakes and some really do not take to handling at all, we literally did not touch our GTP from June 2010 when we got him until last week - the advice we were given is that they should be left alone until their colour changes.
popcorn
03-28-11, 03:28 PM
Your temps sound about right, with the humidity do you keep it constant or is it on a cycle? In the wild dfuring the day the humidity will rise and fall. I spray my guy up to about 80% in the morning and evening but in between it drops to a low of about 60%. Constant high humidity can be as bad as no humidity at all.
With feeding they are best left on their perch with a nice hot food item coming at them from below - they will hang from their tail and eat upside down.
I feed my guy every 14 days - they are quite lazy snakes and prone to fat if fed too often.
You definitely dont want to hassle him too much - GTP;s are pretty much show snakes and some really do not take to handling at all, we literally did not touch our GTP from June 2010 when we got him until last week - the advice we were given is that they should be left alone until their colour changes.
I have a reptil fogger that I turn it on every morning for 5 10 mins and as well as evening so it should be fine for him . So what u mean is u remove the perch that hes on and feed him? Or u just feed in his cage? I tried to feed him last night and he went and smell and push up against it he opened his mouth for few times tried to eat it but he didn't.. He s on pinkies. This morning I woke up found him burried himself under the bedding? Why is that? Don't they usually stay on trees? Hope he is gonna be ok I ll check on him again when I get home tonight
TeaNinja
03-28-11, 03:31 PM
I have a reptil fogger that I turn it on every morning for 5 10 mins and as well as evening so it should be fine for him . So what u mean is u remove the perch that hes on and feed him? Or u just feed in his cage? I tried to feed him last night and he went and smell and push up against it he opened his mouth for few times tried to eat it but he didn't.. He s on pinkies. This morning I woke up found him burried himself under the bedding? Why is that? Don't they usually stay on trees? Hope he is gonna be ok I ll check on him again when I get home tonight
is this the same feeding try from the other day?
like i said, he shouldn't be fed sooner then 5-7 days from each feed. i've also heard what rob was talking about from other people too, that they don't like to be handled.
Lankyrob
03-28-11, 04:46 PM
Leave him in the cage and time your feeding for when he is out on a perch, he should feed hanging upside down so no risk of substrate or anything. They do often go onto the floor, it is a well known misconception that they are 100% arboreal, yes they spend ALOT of time on perches but they do cruise around the floor as well.
With feeding make sure the head of the prey is VERY HOT, use tongs and hold the prey by the nape of the neck and wiggle the head directly under the snake. You say he is on pinkies? Mice or rat? My guybwas about ten weeks old when i got him and at that point he was taking medium mice, they take HUGE prey for their size.
If he refuses to eat you can try leaving the prey on a plate under his favourite perch overnight, if he doesnt take it you will need to bin it in the morning. The more you hassle him with food tho the more stressed he will be, if he wont take it then leave him totally alone except for water changing for at least seven days before trying again.
popcorn
03-28-11, 07:00 PM
is this the same feeding try from the other day?
like i said, he shouldn't be fed sooner then 5-7 days from each feed. i've also heard what rob was talking about from other people too, that they don't like to be handled.
Yes it is the same feeding I willleave him along and not hassal him more just let him get used to it first
popcorn
03-29-11, 12:15 AM
ok finally i m home and able to check on him! he is now sitting on the perch away from the heat lamp..its night time now shouldnt he become active like moving around? well he is not ..to me he looks like he is still sleeping.. is it normal?do yours do that?my corns are just running around in their tanks having fun.. i m sorry maybe i m just over concern about him....
he is on F/T pinkies according to breeder told me.but i will leave him along a couple days and try to feed him again and hope that he will eat for me. i m a bit worry ....
TeaNinja
03-29-11, 04:02 AM
i seriously do not understand why you are worrying so much. it's not super hard to just leave him alone and feed him in a week.
he is not a corn snake and will not act like one either.
Lankyrob
03-29-11, 04:04 AM
Make sure the "couple of days" you leave him is seven - he will be fine for a week, or a month or even more without feeding.
I sit right next to my GTP for upto 20 hours a day and rarely see him move! That is part of the reason for only feeding every 14 days - they dont really burn much energy off.
popcorn
03-29-11, 02:48 PM
sounds good guy! i ll leave him alone! thank you all of u ..u would be worry too if it comes to YOUR animals...i know its hard to understand ..lol but i ll def provide the best for my pets..i ll keep you guys updated if things go wrong!! thanks!
popcorn
03-29-11, 02:51 PM
by the way..after a few days of thinking what to name this NEW GUY..finally ..i decided ..GALAXY..?? sounds ok? was gonna name him skittles..or hitman..since he striked me like 5 or more times..lol
TeaNinja
03-29-11, 04:46 PM
sounds good guy! i ll leave him alone! thank you all of u ..u would be worry too if it comes to YOUR animals...i know its hard to understand ..lol but i ll def provide the best for my pets..i ll keep you guys updated if things go wrong!! thanks!
lol, i have gotten many new animals and not once have i freaked out and assumed they are going to die. (even if they DO miss a feed!)
everyone here provides the best for their pet. worrying about hypotheticals and freaking out for no reason is pointless. it might even lead you to do things to "help" your snake that aren't necesary because there probably isn't anything wrong.
popcorn
03-29-11, 08:57 PM
lol, i have gotten many new animals and not once have i freaked out and assumed they are going to die. (even if they DO miss a feed!)
everyone here provides the best for their pet. worrying about hypotheticals and freaking out for no reason is pointless. it might even lead you to do things to "help" your snake that aren't necesary because there probably isn't anything wrong.
you r right..and i do appreciated your concern and stay in this post with me, to guide me thru not to worry about or over reacting thanks Ninja
belovedboas
03-30-11, 09:22 AM
Yes always try not to worry......as hard as it is. I had a boa go 4 1/2 mnths without food, he was perfectly healthy and never showed any signs of health concerns.....and than one day he decided to eat, scarfed it down too!!! You are quite passionate, as most of us are! I find though it's best to not stress out!!!:):)
popcorn
03-30-11, 09:48 PM
Yes always try not to worry......as hard as it is. I had a boa go 4 1/2 mnths without food, he was perfectly healthy and never showed any signs of health concerns.....and than one day he decided to eat, scarfed it down too!!! You are quite passionate, as most of us are! I find though it's best to not stress out!!!:):)
wow! really? how did u know if he was just not wanted to eat or not? i mean he culd be sick right??but congrats he ate~~~
belovedboas
03-30-11, 09:58 PM
No he actually is quite healthy never lost no weight, I had him checked out twice through out the 5 mnths and I was told he is fine.....he will eat when hes ready. I have never had him sexed and I am quite sure He/she just went off food for the winter months..once he/she poops I will probably get it checked out aswell:):)I'm confident he's ok:)
by the way..after a few days of thinking what to name this NEW GUY..finally ..i decided ..GALAXY..?? sounds ok?
to finally answer your question....yes I accept ;)
TeaNinja
03-31-11, 04:07 PM
or Monty ?
noooooooo lol xD
everyone needs one python named Monty
Lankyrob
03-31-11, 05:03 PM
everyone needs one python named Monty
Oi, thats my saying!! :yes::):rolleyes:
popcorn
03-31-11, 05:24 PM
No he actually is quite healthy never lost no weight, I had him checked out twice through out the 5 mnths and I was told he is fine.....he will eat when hes ready. I have never had him sexed and I am quite sure He/she just went off food for the winter months..once he/she poops I will probably get it checked out aswell:):)I'm confident he's ok:)
oh nice! good to hear that!! i have never taken any snakes to vet before.. what r the average cost on visits?? u sounded like u go to vet quite often huh? lol
popcorn
03-31-11, 05:25 PM
to finally answer your question....yes I accept ;)
lol thanks ~~ dont know how i came up with it.
shaunyboy
03-31-11, 05:28 PM
i know i m being paranoid..he ate last wedenday before he hot shipped out on thursday...then i got him on friday..he is a great looking guy.. but expensive i m just afraid that he wont make it.. i work in a pet store and i had seen so many pythons came in and wouldnt eat and got skinny and died.. i hope it will turn out right for me on my very first GTP....how do u guys feed your GTPs? i can hold my corn snakes in my hand with just give him the pinkies and they will take it from there..gently! corns are easy to feed
i'm not trying to be cheeky
please try and stop worrying and let the chondro settle in they are imo a lot more sensitive than carpets pythons
leave it alone in the quietest place in your house.
only go near the gtp when it's 100% neccessary
only change its water and mist
what are your temperature's ?
they are completely different in nature and temprement to corn's they are far more easily stressed out
give it 10 to 14 days of only going near it for the neccessary husbandry then offer food
heat the food up really hot with a hair dryer especially the head
if this fails try 1 more time after braining the prey item.you need to puncture the skull 2 or 3 times until grey brain matter comes out the puncture holes
give the food another heat especially the head and puncture holes and offer again
if the snake appears nervous of the food only offer the once then leave 7 days and try with a brained prey item
i hope it feeds soon for you
don't worry too much i've had carpet python hatchlings NOT eat until 10 months old with no ill effect
what age is your gtp ?
cheers shaun
popcorn
03-31-11, 08:07 PM
i'm not trying to be cheeky
please try and stop worrying and let the chondro settle in they are imo a lot more sensitive than carpets pythons
leave it alone in the quietest place in your house.
only go near the gtp when it's 100% neccessary
only change its water and mist
what are your temperature's ?
they are completely different in nature and temprement to corn's they are far more easily stressed out
give it 10 to 14 days of only going near it for the neccessary husbandry then offer food
heat the food up really hot with a hair dryer especially the head
if this fails try 1 more time after braining the prey item.you need to puncture the skull 2 or 3 times until grey brain matter comes out the puncture holes
give the food another heat especially the head and puncture holes and offer again
if the snake appears nervous of the food only offer the once then leave 7 days and try with a brained prey item
i hope it feeds soon for you
don't worry too much i've had carpet python hatchlings NOT eat until 10 months old with no ill effect
what age is your gtp ?
cheers shaun
That is a really good idea!! i ll try that next time !! i have a 37G tank. on bedding its reading 82.. 85 will be in middle area..i m using 75W basking SUN GLO Light on him.he has been sitting in the same spot for the last 2 days and nights. i dont sleep till 4 or 5 am ..and i had not seen him moved a little ..normal?? he is about 4 or 5 months old...thanks for your advise
Lankyrob
04-01-11, 02:34 AM
As i said before gtps rarley move, you may want to bump your temps to about 89f at the level that he perches. My guy has his favourite spot and that is the spot that i ensure the temps are ideal.
shaunyboy
04-01-11, 07:39 AM
That is a really good idea!! i ll try that next time !! i have a 37G tank. on bedding its reading 82.. 85 will be in middle area..i m using 75W basking SUN GLO Light on him.he has been sitting in the same spot for the last 2 days and nights. i dont sleep till 4 or 5 am ..and i had not seen him moved a little ..normal?? he is about 4 or 5 months old...thanks for your advise
what do you use for heating during the night ?
i'm assuming the sun glo bulb gets turned off at night so its not got a light on 24/7 ?
a great book to invest in is.....
the more complete chondro,by greg maxwell
its the gtp bible
rob keeps gtp's so i would listen to him regarding your temperatures
also if your not going to sleep until 4 or 5am do you have a light on in the room ?
your gtp will need natural light cycles so really needs darkness at night you could achieve this by placing a blanket over the glass doors to give it complete darkness
gtp's are quite sensitive species and react to the slightest change in proper husbandry methods (not trying to be cheeky)
cheers shaun
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