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kenchenzo
01-27-11, 04:41 AM
Hi everyone just found One of my young royals dead. Looked like he was starting to shed and he got a load of substrate in his mouth.
Poor little thing.
That's just life i suppose.
Lankyrob
01-27-11, 04:47 AM
So sorry to hear of your loss. Dontknow what else to say....... :(
Reptile_Reptile
01-27-11, 04:47 AM
sorry dude that sucks, did he have a name. or are we going to have to call him Robert Paulson?
kenchenzo
01-27-11, 04:51 AM
Thank you.
He didn't have a name I have to
Many to name them all.
Horrible sight to see.
Reptile_Reptile
01-27-11, 04:56 AM
im sorry you had to see that then dude, i dont think i could handle it if i found maynard like that.
infernalis
01-27-11, 05:31 AM
Condolences mate. That is rare. Royals are such hardy animals. Something underlying had to be at fault.
kenchenzo
01-27-11, 07:43 AM
thanks everyone.
nothing that i had noticed infernalis. seemed fine eating fine just stated to shed the head was off and the mouth was full of substrate.
marvelfreak
01-27-11, 07:53 AM
Sorry for your lost.
infernalis
01-27-11, 02:27 PM
I have had this same thing happen with baby garter snakes, they get the mouth full of substrate during the final moments of convulsing (death thrashing)
It sucks, and there is nothing you could have done, something neurological I assume, because at the end, they lose motor control.
belovedboas
01-27-11, 02:34 PM
awwwwwww....I am sorry for you my friend!!!
Hillsberry
01-27-11, 02:39 PM
I am so sorry to hear about your loss. :(
CanadianEryx
01-27-11, 03:25 PM
So sorry to hear about this! I hope the rest of your snakes are doing well!
kenchenzo
01-27-11, 03:26 PM
All seem fine. Hopefully.
TeaNinja
01-27-11, 05:01 PM
I have had this same thing happen with baby garter snakes, they get the mouth full of substrate during the final moments of convulsing (death thrashing)
It sucks, and there is nothing you could have done, something neurological I assume, because at the end, they lose motor control.
is it possible that he was rubbing his head on things to get the skin off and just got a mouth full of substrate and couldn't recover? or do you think it had a fatal issue beforehand?
infernalis
01-27-11, 06:48 PM
Since I was not there, I can only assume.
In my observations with the baby garters, they got mouths full of bedding during the thrashing, and not before.
Last week we had a new member with a "thrashing" corn snake, I hated to reply to that one, because I was right and the snake was dead hours after the post was made.
I can't explain it, but once the snake rolls over on it's back and starts convulsing, it's too late to prevent death at that point.
The head rubbing could very well have been the onset of the dreaded thrashing part.
TeaNinja
01-27-11, 08:24 PM
Since I was not there, I can only assume.
In my observations with the baby garters, they got mouths full of bedding during the thrashing, and not before.
Last week we had a new member with a "thrashing" corn snake, I hated to reply to that one, because I was right and the snake was dead hours after the post was made.
I can't explain it, but once the snake rolls over on it's back and starts convulsing, it's too late to prevent death at that point.
The head rubbing could very well have been the onset of the dreaded thrashing part.
sad =/ it really sucks when snakes have neurological issues (or any issues for that matter) and there is nothing you can do to help/prevent it.
NennaMeerkat
01-27-11, 08:30 PM
Had a baby ball python and during its first feeding with me I found it upside down 24 hours later. Talking to a breeder they thought that the place I bought the food from might have been contaminated with fertilizer since it was a feed store. Whatever the case it was really disturbing to see. It didn't "thrash" so much as sort of lunge around. I got it out of its home and holding it watched as it seemed to try and get its bearings only to end up with his head upside down. Overall it was really disturbing to watch and at the same time really sad.
kenchenzo
01-29-11, 03:35 AM
thanks everyone.
just have to accept that these things happen sadly.
Sorry for your loss.
You sound heartbroken.
Steve'O
01-30-11, 09:22 AM
Sorry for you loss. I have only lost one BP in the past. It was a well established adult. We don't always know why our exotics die. If you have ever kept fish you know what I mean. When keeping an exotic in an artificial environment, we can't always figure out where things went wrong. Sometimes, like in people and everything else, there is an undiagnosed underlying condition that is impossible to detect. To be safe I would check your food sources and clean and disinfect all of your animals enclosures and water containers. Best wishes.
bci/boa75
02-06-11, 10:10 AM
sorry to here about your royal :sad: never a nice post when some thing has past away .
Freebody
02-06-11, 07:59 PM
very sorry to here the bad news bro :(
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