Glad i don't live in Ohio.

[marvelfreak]

:no:Ohio Governor Orders Ban on Dangerous Wild Animals (http://www.reptilechannel.com/reptile-news/2011/01/07/ohio-governor-orders-ban-on-dangerous-wild-animals.aspx?sc_cid=4721431)

After reading make sure to read the comment on the article, and where it say more comment. I believe this is just the start. Won't be long and more states will be doing this.
If your a breeder in Ohio you have my deepest regards. :no:

[NennaMeerkat]

It is upsetting. Sorry for those who live in Ohio. Makes me glad to be in Texas where you can own just about anything you want without a lot of restrictions.

[infernalis]

Beat me to the punch there Chuck.....

Found this out yesterday.

It blows.

[Ch^4]

Dangerous wild animals...they classified bears, big cats, wolves, and venomous snakes in the same category as large constrictors: what a joke.

I don't know much about Ohio, but I'm fairly certain an escaped constrictor or venomous snake wouldn't last long in the "wild."

I know some of you have hots, and I wasn't trying to offend you, but there is no way that constrictors and hots should be in the same category. (IMHO)

Very frustrating and hopefully it doesn't spread quickly to other states.

[Aaron_S]

Dangerous wild animals...they classified bears, big cats, wolves, and venomous snakes in the same category as large constrictors: what a joke.

I don't know much about Ohio, but I'm fairly certain an escaped constrictor or venomous snake wouldn't last long in the "wild."

I know some of you have hots, and I wasn't trying to offend you, but there is no way that constrictors and hots should be in the same category. (IMHO)

Very frustrating and hopefully it doesn't spread quickly to other states.


You're under the assumption that the venomous snakes aren't native to Ohio or other states. A lot of copperheads and rattlesnakes commonly kept could easily live in the wild if they were released. During the summer months at least the large constrictors would live. If they somehow found a way to beat out the cold then they'd persist.

[infernalis]

I had a very similar argument with a person one time about the Vipers in my home state of NY.

The person was so convinced that we had NO native vipers, Most people immediately think Temple vipers, or other imports.

All rattlesnakes are pit vipers. And Ohio does have rattlesnakes.

Even an exotic import can thrive if the climate is relatively close to the natural habitat.

All a tropical snake would need to survive in the north is an abandoned mine shaft, a bomb shelter (people built a slew of those during the cold war threat years)

Adders from europe would survive nicely in Ohio

[DeesBalls]

being from OH, this is so stupid. if any of those reptiles escaped, there would be almost NO WAY they would survive. it can nOT tolerate our tepms, now im sure that Ill, NY, and other states up north, is the same.

when it says large constrictors, what all do they mean, i cant find what snakes are included...

i mean royal pythons cant be concidered as large!?!? can they??

[Reptile_Reptile]

lil boa i would contact your local animal shelter. they will probably have the info on whats what.

[DeesBalls]

lil boa i would contact your local animal shelter. they will probably have the info on whats what.

thats what i was thinking of doing. also googeling it and see what all comes up on it

[DeesBalls]

source :Ohio Exotic Animal Ban - Exotic Pets - Zimbio (http://www.zimbio.com/Exotic+Pets/articles/eT9f5AWk7G1/Ohio+Exotic+Animal+Ban)

On January 6, 2011 former Ohio govenor Ted Strickland signed an Emergency Order banning certain 'dangerous' animals. This order was part of a three way agreement between Stickland,The Humane Society of the United States (HSUS) and representatives of Ohio's agricultural industry. In exchange for Ohio implementing the ban as well as a few agriculturally based measures, the HSUS agreed not to place their agenda on the Ohio ballot. Taken from the regulation, animals included are:

(a) Family canidae: coyote (Canis latrans), timber and gray wolf (Canis lupus), excluding wolf-dog hybrids;(b) Family felidae: lions (Panthera leo), tigers (Panthera tigris), jaguars (Panthera onca), leopard (Panthera pardus), clouded leopard (Neofelis nebulosa), snow leopard (Panthera uncia), cheetah (Acinonyx jubatus),
bobcat (Rufus rufus), lynx (Lynx rufus), cougars, pumas, or mountain lions (Puma concolor), including hybrids thereof;
(c) Family ursidae: all species of bears.
(2) All species of Class mammilia, order primates excluding humans.
(a) Order crocodylia: all species of alligators, crocodiles, caimans, and gharials
(i) Family atractaspidae: all species, such as mole vipers.
(ii) Family boidae: anaconda (Genus eunectes), Burmese python (Python molurus), reticulated python (Python reticulatus), amethystine python (Morelia amethistinus), scrub python (Morelia kinghorni),
northern African python (Python sebae), southern African python (Python natalensis).
(iii) Family colubridae: boomslang (Dispholidus typus), twig snake (Genus thelotornis).
(iv) Family elapidae: all species, such as cobra, mamba, and coral snakes.
(v) Family hydrophiidae: all species, such as sea snakes.
(vi) Family viperidae: all species, such as rattlesnakes, pit vipers, and puff adders.

so it looks like my royal, corns, and BRB will be okay, i was worried about my BRB. im dissapointed and glad that i wont be getting any of these snakes any way.

i hope this helps everyone else out, i know there is a few ohioans on this forum.

[Reptile_Reptile]

you can own a bear!

[Ch^4]

You're under the assumption that the venomous snakes aren't native to Ohio or other states. A lot of copperheads and rattlesnakes commonly kept could easily live in the wild if they were released. During the summer months at least the large constrictors would live. If they somehow found a way to beat out the cold then they'd persist.

Yes, it was a very broad assumption, my apologies. I used a blanket statement and should have thrown in 'non-native' venomous species. We have rattlesnakes in Washington state and it gets fairly chilly during the winter months.

I agree that if a large constrictor could persist, somehow, through the winter months, that it'd thrive during late spring/summer. I just meant that it was unlikely, not impossible, but unlikely. Sorry.

[Nafun]

I can't say what I think of governor ted strickland because wayne's kid reads the forums and he doesn't want her to see the words I want to use.

My next purchase was going to be a dwarf burmese.

Yes. There was a large colony of burmese pythons in the everglades. But most of them died last winter. Last year's burmese python hunt netted 0 snakes. If they can barely survive in southern florida, what freaking chance do they have in ohio?

And the worst part is, this will sit on the books and never get repealed because the majority doesn't care about the rights of the minority.

[DeesBalls]

you can own a bear!

huh??

Look at "c". It says all bears....

[presspirate]

An executive order signed by the outgoing Governor. Usark is working on getting the new Governor to overturn it. USARK • View topic - OHIO- Reptile Ban/ Executive Order (http://usark.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&p=469)

[TylerWortman]

Glad I do live in Ohio and I'm keeping my snakes.