carpet ball?

[Damion930]

http://pics.livejournal.com/blue_rogue724/pic/0004a25z/s640x480
Whada u think about that

[Reptile_Reptile]

is this speculation on its species cause iim pretty sure a carpet ball is imposable looks like a dark coastal to me

[Sigge]

iim pretty sure it's a carpet ball, 'cause of the snakes fatness. (Unless it's is heavily overfed)

[Damion930]

Yeah im not positive if it is but that's what it is suposed to be

[presspirate]

They are called carpalls I believe. It is possible, and they have been bred. I am not all that familiar with them, so I could not say for certain if that is what is in the picture.:crazy2:

[Reptile_Reptile]

wow. so they exist? that is crazy hmmm wow

[Damion930]

Yeah I did a lil google research lol ther def real aparently ppl have mixed most of the pythons bateaters retic x burm and burmballs balltics bloodballs carpalls the list goes on and on some amazing looking animals I know some ppl don't agree with it but what's done is done and if it wasn't ment to happen it wouldn't have

[marvelfreak]

Check out these thread. http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/general-python-forum/82991-wall-ball-x-woma.html

Here's some pics of Bateaters.
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[pythonman]

Yeah I did a lil google research lol ther def real aparently ppl have mixed most of the pythons bateaters retic x burm and burmballs balltics bloodballs carpalls the list goes on and on some amazing looking animals I know some ppl don't agree with it but what's done is done and if it wasn't ment to happen it wouldn't have I Think your statement of "if it was not meant to happen it wouldn,t have" may be a bit misleading. For starters burmese and ball pythons come from different continents and would never meet let alone breed in nature, as is the case with most of the other pairings you have mentionend.(if not differing continents certainly different locations where again in nature these pairing would not happen) More its a case of breeders playing at mother nature.
Just because it can be done does,nt mean its meant to happen.
However these pairing are interesting and occur with in other animal species and groups ie lion x tiger,.
Is it a case of human intervention to expand our knowledge, or breeders making money for novelty animals, i dont know, do the offspring these pairings produce suffer any disabilities, are they sterile etc etc.(as mother nature often has the last word)
Each to their own,interesting post Damion 930:)

[belovedboas]

I thought that was a carpet and a ball I would assume it`s very possible..cause there are Superballs which is a ball and a blood!!!beautiful snake none the less

[shaunyboy]

They are called carpalls I believe. It is possible, and they have been bred. I am not all that familiar with them, so I could not say for certain if that is what is in the picture.:crazy2:

^^^^^
carpalls are what they get called and have been done on numerous occasions

so has a boelens x carpet can't remember what they get called

carpet x green tree = capondro

jag carpet x green tree = jagpondro

macklots x carpet = carplots

theres been a few crazy looking carpet hybrids done out there

cheers shaun

[shaunyboy]

Check out these thread. http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/general-python-forum/82991-wall-ball-x-woma.html

Here's some pics of Bateaters.
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i quite like those guys chuck

cheers shaun

[shaunyboy]

I Think your statement of "if it was not meant to happen it wouldn,t have" may be a bit misleading. For starters burmese and ball pythons come from different continents and would never meet let alone breed in nature, as is the case with most of the other pairings you have mentionend.(if not differing continents certainly different locations where again in nature these pairing would not happen) More its a case of breeders playing at mother nature.
Just because it can be done does,nt mean its meant to happen.
However these pairing are interesting and occur with in other animal species and groups ie lion x tiger,.
Is it a case of human intervention to expand our knowledge, or breeders making money for novelty animals, i dont know, do the offspring these pairings produce suffer any disabilities, are they sterile etc etc.(as mother nature often has the last word)
Each to their own,interesting post Damion 930:)


although i don't condem folk for doing it hybrids are not my thing

i have the same worries as yourself john when it comes to the husbandry

2 snakes from different continents with different living conditions being rolled into one body must surely throw up some husbandry issues and maybe even premature deaths

i personally would'nt breed hybrids but as you said mate each to their own

cheers shaun

[pythonman]

I am the same as you Shaun in i neither agree or disagree with the numourous pairings that have been made between various snake species.
The colubrid family has many such pairings, and the python family and others are there to be exploited by those who wish to do so. If we look at the carpet python complex many morphs/crosses occur here, and often the animals produced are not only popular but spectacular to the eye.However these pairings are from animals sharing the same family (morelia in this case) and some intergration can occur with some of these animals in the wild, the point i was putting accross was the pairing of animals who dispite sharing the python family inhabit different continents, eg Africa/Asia.
It is human nature to see what can or cant be done, and if it was,nt for the free thinkers trying new things or seeing what could be acheived we would never know....... but are the animals produced by such pairing superior to their parents or inferior with defects eg fertility, life expectancy and the like.
Such crosses will always turn up, but i for one will give them a miss and work along side nature as she has spent a long time evolving these animals and i value her knowhow and expertise :)

[Ch^4]

^^ Well said pythonman.

I do however love how they look. There is a guy who hatched some Spider Carpals (Spider BP x Carpet) a few months back that are simply amazing. I don't think I could do it, but I don't frown upon those who are.

[Damion930]

RSorry I study philosophy lol goes along the lines everything happens for a reason ther for would not have happened unless ment to im not realy for or against and Personaly like normals the most and would be concerned about husbandry as well but I bet its being figured out or will be in time I like the burmballs puffy sweet looking

[Reptile_Reptile]

they are probably way more docile then straight up morelia and just as pretty. i wonder what they max out at