Post Your Kings!!

[2006gt]

If you own any kind of king Snake please post a pic of them i posted mine already but here we go.....
http://i798.photobucket.com/albums/yy269/osmbr/028-3.jpg
http://i798.photobucket.com/albums/yy269/osmbr/021-1.jpg
http://i798.photobucket.com/albums/yy269/osmbr/017-4.jpg

LETS SEE YOURS!!!:D

[Reptile_Reptile]

i dont think many people have them (if at all besides you) but i hope to see more if they do so post up people

[DeesBalls]

I've been thinking of getting one. I really like the albino and the 3 rd pic. Well ill say 1st and 3rd because Im not sure that the first is an albino!

How are the temperate? What's the diff. Between them and corn?

[2006gt]

i would say kings have more of an attitude. they have appetites to and the biggest difference haha that i think alot of people know is they can kill and eat rattle snakes. and yes the first pic is a lavender albino.

[Ch^4]

Here's my Cali King! I need to get some more pics of him, but he is SO hyper!

[Michael Roth]

my unsexed lavender florida king:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y82/MichaelRoth/lakunsexed002.jpg


And my pair:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y82/MichaelRoth/lavenderpair002.jpg

[Michael Roth]

Forgot about the California Kings:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y82/MichaelRoth/albino.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y82/MichaelRoth/king.jpg

[2006gt]

awesome snakes guys my next two kings when a show rolls around are an MBK and a California King (Black and White) banded. My two cali's are super hyper never sitting still way more interesting than my Ball Python that was basically a slug haha.

[Marica]

Guess I should add Grendl here too, no new pics yet though. He's a 2010 Mexican Black.

http://www.iherp.com/Gallery/91837/53240_122117_Large_AYrBNTECUzP.jpg

[2006gt]

no one else keeps kings!!

[tyson187]

Hi!
Here is my female cali kingsnake..:)

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/3901/56275082.jpg

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/5972/51019883.jpg

[infernalis]

Guess I should add Grendl here too, no new pics yet though. He's a 2010 Mexican Black.

Beowulf fan??

[2006gt]

nice king how old is she?? everytime i try to hold mine she trys to bite??

[tyson187]

Thx!She is 16 months old and 105-110cm long...My cali only in sheeding time try to bite me..:)))

[2006gt]

anymore king owners

[serpentshideawa]

no but i may try to get some pics of them tomorrow if i can just to throw up here

[ctdasme]

this from when i first got him/her ill post a couple newer ones later.

[Freebody]

kings have really taken a dive in the pet trade sadly, i remember when i was young, every pet store or snake owner had one, now this is all the people we got lol, i hope they come back around. Very nice kings yall :)

[ctdasme]

my Brooski King, newer pics

[2006gt]

nice brooksi! does he still have an eye cap??

[ctdasme]

well, that wasnt on his eye after his last shed. i actually just noticed that when i picked him up for those pics. Almost looks like a scratch but i'm not sure thought i might just watch him and see of he goes into shed, if not idk. Any ideas?

[2006gt]

looks like a scratch or a cap to me im no expert just what it looks like (imo). other than that nice snake.

[derekcm87]

striped cal king het albino
http://i1133.photobucket.com/albums/m593/verticallychallengedexotics/King%20Snakes/Striped_California_King_100_Het_Albino.jpg

albino striped cal king
http://i1133.photobucket.com/albums/m593/verticallychallengedexotics/King%20Snakes/albino_striped_california_king.jpg

banana cal king
http://i1133.photobucket.com/albums/m593/verticallychallengedexotics/King%20Snakes/Banana_California_King_Snake.jpg

brooks x blotched
http://i1133.photobucket.com/albums/m593/verticallychallengedexotics/King%20Snakes/Brooks_x_Blotched_King_Snake.jpg

female axanthic brooks
http://i1133.photobucket.com/albums/m593/verticallychallengedexotics/King%20Snakes/Female_Axanthic_Brooks_King_Snake.jpg

desert king
http://i1133.photobucket.com/albums/m593/verticallychallengedexotics/King%20Snakes/Female_Desert_King_Snake.jpg

female #1 mexican black king
http://i1133.photobucket.com/albums/m593/verticallychallengedexotics/King%20Snakes/Female_Mexican_Black_King_1.jpg

female #2 mbk
http://i1133.photobucket.com/albums/m593/verticallychallengedexotics/King%20Snakes/Female_Mexican_Black_King_2.jpg

[derekcm87]

male mbk
http://i1133.photobucket.com/albums/m593/verticallychallengedexotics/King%20Snakes/Male_Mexican_Black_King.jpg

female san luis potosi
http://i1133.photobucket.com/albums/m593/verticallychallengedexotics/King%20Snakes/Female_San_Luis_Potosi_King_Snake.jpg

male axanthic brooks
http://i1133.photobucket.com/albums/m593/verticallychallengedexotics/King%20Snakes/Male_Axanthic_Brooks_King_Snake.jpg

normal cal king
http://i1133.photobucket.com/albums/m593/verticallychallengedexotics/King%20Snakes/Male_California_King_Snake.jpg

male san luis potosi
http://i1133.photobucket.com/albums/m593/verticallychallengedexotics/King%20Snakes/Male_San_Luis_Potosi.jpg


female anerythristic whitesided brooks
http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/vv61/derekcm13/Vertically%20Challenged/Female_Anery_Whitesided_Brooks.jpg

male anerythristic whitesided brooks
http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/vv61/derekcm13/Vertically%20Challenged/Male_Anery_Whitesided_Brooks.jpg

female 50/50 high white cal king
http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/vv61/derekcm13/Vertically%20Challenged/Female_50-50_Highwhite_Cal_King.jpg

[derekcm87]

not a king snake but king rat snakes...
female het albino
http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/vv61/derekcm13/Vertically%20Challenged/Female_King_Rat_Het_Albino.jpg

male king rat het albino
http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/vv61/derekcm13/Vertically%20Challenged/Male_King_Rat_Het_Albino.jpg

[2006gt]

WOW!!! is that your collection if so thats awesome and i am jelous!! thanks for sharing those pics!! Awesome Snakes!

[derekcm87]

WOW!!! is that your collection if so thats awesome and i am jelous!! thanks for sharing those pics!! Awesome Snakes!


Yes that is my collection of kings. Thanks alot!

[2006gt]

do you breed or is it just for pets/hobby?? im going to try and breed my milks and kings maybe once other than that mine are just pets!

[derekcm87]

do you breed or is it just for pets/hobby?? im going to try and breed my milks and kings maybe once other than that mine are just pets!


I do breed, But I still consider all my animals pets and my hobby. What kind of milks and kings do you have?

[tyson187]

Really nice kings!!!!:) grat for the collection!:D

[2006gt]

i have....
1.0 Normal Reduced Pattern Sinaloan
0.1 Albino Reduced Pattern Sinaloan
1.0 lavender striped albino Cali King
0.1 Albino Banana Cali King
0.0.0 Tangerine Honduran Milk Snake
0.0.0 Peach Phase Tayeri

More to come!!!

Do you have any snakes for sale. Were are you located??

[derekcm87]

i have....
1.0 Normal Reduced Pattern Sinaloan
0.1 Albino Reduced Pattern Sinaloan
1.0 lavender striped albino Cali King
0.1 Albino Banana Cali King
0.0.0 Tangerine Honduran Milk Snake
0.0.0 Peach Phase Tayeri

More to come!!!

Do you have any snakes for sale. Were are you located??

I am located in the suburbs of chicago, I have a partner in the st.louis metropolitan area as well. I have nothing for sale at this very moment but I will have the following for sale soon:

Tangerine Honduran milks
Normal honduran milks
Sinaloan milks het albino
highwhite cal kings double het stripe & albino
albino king rat snakes
king rat snakes 66% poss het albino
albino licorice rat snakes
axanthic brooks kings
anerythristic whitesided brooks kings
red hypo brooks kings

Then next year should be alot more than that.

Feel free to check out my site Vertically Challenged Exotics (http://chicagosnakes.com/) to see when I have these available and let me know if there is anything you'd be interested in.

[Ringo2011]

Hello all..I am a new member and i would like to say hello.
I would also like to figure out how to post a pic of my King.so, if anyone would be kind enough to let me know..i would appreciate it.

[infernalis]

Hello all..I am a new member and i would like to say hello.
I would also like to figure out how to post a pic of my King.so, if anyone would be kind enough to let me know..i would appreciate it.


You need to make one more post, then you have full forum permission.

It's a necessary evil to keep spam off the forum.

Why not say hello in the welcome forum.

[edens]

Guess I should add Grendl here too, no new pics yet though. He's a 2010 Mexican Black.

http://www.iherp.com/Gallery/91837/53240_122117_Large_AYrBNTECUzP.jpg
ooo so pretty :-) will it stay that color? what is the upkeep? same as kingsnake? :-)

[Marica]

Yep, they stay that colour. And, if they do have some lighter speckles, which some do, they usually darken as they age. I've been keeping him in a similar setup to my Corns and he seems to be doing quite well. Oh, and I got him up from a breeder from your area, edens.

[crimsonking]

here's a few....
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b62/crimsonking01/goini0992510b.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b62/crimsonking01/agalmamale1b.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b62/crimsonking01/hypo6.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b62/crimsonking01/nflfemale3.jpg

:Mark

[Ringo2011]

Hello all. This is ringo..He/She doesn't like to hold very still..i have had him/her for almost 3 years now is my favorite snake. I moved a couple years ago and had to give up my 2 ball pythons,gator and iguana : ( But ringo went to my nephew and i got him/her back : )
Going to the reptile show next month to get Ringo sexed and maybe look for a mate for him/her. On the other hand..i'm also thinking about albino burmese or tiger retic. I want something pretty since my wife is giving me trouble about the Emerald tree boa i wanna get..big $

[2006gt]

nice kings guys they look good!!

[tyson187]

My brand new cali kingsnake..:)

http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/2015/hm02.jpg

http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/8638/hm01e.jpg

[2006gt]

I'm jeleous my king is basically spawn of all evil and strikes at anything and everything I was looking in his cage and he struck at my face the other day haha he is mean actually all my kings areean for some reason unknown I try to handle only to get struck at I even try the hook method and still he bites the hook idk what to do

[Sapphyr]

Beowulf fan??

I thought the same :D

Anywho, Derek, AMAZING collection. I'm not much of a King fan but wow.. Your collection just might of changed my mind. c:

Also, so jealous of you and 2006gt D; I love Tangerine Honduran Milk Snakes.

[2006gt]

Heres my tangerine his/her name is Hondo
http://i798.photobucket.com/albums/yy269/osmbr/019-4.jpg
when he was a lil smaller
http://i798.photobucket.com/albums/yy269/osmbr/001-4.jpg

[Sapphyr]

Oh wow~ c: She/he is gorgeous, love the head markings~ :>

Think I made an oopsy, though ;c Think I meant Albino Tangerine Honduran Milk Snakes. Wasn't sure if there was a difference or not.

Like this:

http://www.bhbreptiles.com/components/com_virtuemart/shop_image/product/2992ed23e2d48e99b5bfe66e360dce9c.jpg

[2006gt]

that is an albino tangerine milk snake and that is my next snake haha

[Sapphyr]

that is an albino tangerine milk snake and that is my next snake haha

Aww! You're so lucky! D; It's not my next, but it's definitely something I'd love to have one day!

[2006gt]

i found a guy that breeds them 20 mins form my house. he posts on kingsnake.com Howard Leong in fremont. so i know were i can get mine when they hatch hhaha cant wait im namin him/her highlighter thats what they remind me of the most!!!

if you dont mind me asking weres lexington??

[Sapphyr]

i found a guy that breeds them 20 mins form my house. he posts on kingsnake.com Howard Leong in fremont. so i know were i can get mine when they hatch hhaha cant wait im namin him/her highlighter thats what they remind me of the most!!!

if you dont mind me asking weres lexington??

LOL That's an EPIC name xD It's great you found a local breeder.~

Lexington is Northern Kentucky, up near Frankfort(the capital).

[2006gt]

Ohh I was thinking like Missouri or Alabama haha

[presspirate]

The Mexican Black Kings are smoking hot! I think I wants one!

[mld]

I love king snakes, well most types of colubrids, very drool worthy! I'm so jealous, I want them all!

[Sapphyr]

Ohh I was thinking like Missouri or Alabama haha

Aw no, Lexington, Kentucky. c: ... I'm betting I'm the only person from Kentucky, here.

[Marica]

Some new pics of Grendl, our little 2010 MBK. He's up to 35 grams now.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5211/5459279218_cef1d27efa_z.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5253/5459277992_de66652830_z.jpg

[Sapphyr]

Oh wow, he's almost got like.. a bluish shine to him in the light. <3

[molson101]

wasnt thinking of getting a snake but after these pics u guys might have got me addicted. Those are very beautiful snakes i like the albinos.

[mld]

Gorgeous MBK, very jealous, thanks for sharing your pictures!

[molson101]

I am so mad I really want a snake now but at the same time i dont because I dont want to buy mice for it.

[Sapphyr]

I am so mad I really want a snake now but at the same time i dont because I dont want to buy mice for it.

Eh, my mother was the same way but she got me one. Nature is nature, in my opinion. Was going to happen one way or another, and it probably will for several hundreds of years, if not forever. But, each to their own.

PS: Snakes make magnificent pets. <3

[Freebody]

that mbk is looking great marica :)

[molson101]

I know I really want one its not me that hates mice its my Mom

[Sapphyr]

I know I really want one its not me that hates mice its my Mom

Ohhhh... Well, even if my mother hadn't of gotten me one, I was determined. I was tired of being denied what I'd been waiting for for over half of my life. My plan was to buy a mini freezer to keep frozen mice in, hide it in my closet. Then get a beginning 10g tank and hide it in the closet. Was planning on getting a corn or a BP at best. Then I'd run an electrical outlet extension into the closet to hook up lamps/heatmat, and the freezer.

Moving out? Eh well, my own personal touch woulda been carry out the snake tank last and be all,"Yeah... I had a snake the whole time. LOL"

But that's just me.

[molson101]

Man I am so mad. Kings are so beautiful. Ill see if I can Convise them. If I get one I am getting Albino Lavendar Banana King Snake.

[molson101]

LOL mabye il try that! Lol. She said I could get a lizard but I dont think they would be as cool as a snake.

[Sapphyr]

LOL mabye il try that! Lol. She said I could get a lizard but I dont think they would be as cool as a snake.

I personally loooove geckos... but I also looooove snakes.~

Anywho.. KINGS ME!

http://gallery.pethobbyist.com/data/1430xmasbaby.jpg

Not mine but I saw a baby version of this morph at our last expo. It was really quite stunning. I half way contemplated getting it.

[molson101]

Stop tempting me its going to be so hard to convise my mom to let me have mice in the house. Even if there frozen. She cant stand them. But I agree with Saphire. I have wanted one half my life and I will get it!

[molson101]

Are kings good begginer snakes because I want some thing that is relativly easy but i love the color of them

[molson101]

If I cant convince her wich I probably wont Im getting a Bearded Dragon they are supposed to be very freindly.

[Sapphyr]

If I cant convince her wich I probably wont Im getting a Bearded Dragon they are supposed to be very freindly.

They are. Mine's very mellow, loves to be handled.

Also, I do think Kings are decent beginner snakes.

[molson101]

Thanks guys

[Marica]

I had heard that milks and kings musk frequently, but I've also talked to quite a few people recently that don't have this issue with theirs. Our little MBK musks every time we take him out of his cage, but stops and settles down after a moment. I had never heard of a Corn musking and I have never had any of my 8 Corns musk, however, I did recently read somewhere of someone that did have a Corn that musked. So that's not really a for sure thing with any of these snakes, but they do all have basically the same, easy care requirements that makes them all good beginner snakes.

As for feeding, my step-mom wasn't too keen either on having mice in the freezer, but we compromised and I kept them in an opaque container. While I advocate feeding f/t, if your mom is more uneasy with live mice feedings happening than you'll want to make sure that if you do get a snake that it is well established on f/t. Another thing to keep in mind is that most rodents used for feeding reptiles, were breed specifically for that purpose and will eventually end up some reptiles belly.

[Sapphyr]

I had heard that milks and kings musk frequently, but I've also talked to quite a few people recently that don't have this issue with theirs. Our little MBK musks every time we take him out of his cage, but stops and settles down after a moment. I had never heard of a Corn musking and I have never had any of my 8 Corns musk, however, I did recently read somewhere of someone that did have a Corn that musked. So that's not really a for sure thing with any of these snakes, but they do all have basically the same, easy care requirements that makes them all good beginner snakes.

As for feeding, my step-mom wasn't too keen either on having mice in the freezer, but we compromised and I kept them in an opaque container. While I advocate feeding f/t, if your mom is more uneasy with live mice feedings happening than you'll want to make sure that if you do get a snake that it is well established on f/t. Another thing to keep in mind is that most rodents used for feeding reptiles, were breed specifically for that purpose and will eventually end up some reptiles belly.

Ohhh, had no clue they were breed specifically for that purpose.~ c: Now I got something good to tell my mother :D

Anywho, I thought snakes eventually stop musking after getting used to being handled, maybe not all, but most. And yes, I've heard of frightened corn snakes musking before.

[2006gt]

None of my kings musk or my milks it's mostly wild snakes but my cousins corn hatchling has musket him twice. And as for kings as a beginner snake I wouldn't recommend because they like to bite for some reason when young I would go with a milk or corn for the simple fact that they are less likely to actually bite you

[Lankyrob]

We rescued a corn that was about 3 years old but never been handled - for the first few months he musked everytime i picked him up but has now settled to the extent that he is one of the snakes that we take to schools.

[molson101]

Do kings bite because I reeally dont wanna get bitten alot.

[Sapphyr]

Do kings bite because I reeally dont wanna get bitten alot.

Well anything can bite... I'm expecting to get bitten one day on behalf of a feeding response. You can get bitten if you don't pick it up from behind. Can be bitten if your cage opens from the top(they feel threatened because hawks approach from above in the wild). Feeling anxious about picking it up because you -fear- being bitten.. the snake will pick up on that and, in turn, feel anxious as well and will be more likely to bite.

If you're going to get a snake, -expect- to be bitten. You can't ever not expect to be. A snake will bite, whether it's just nippy, you've done something wrong, or it's just a little feeding response. And, honestly.. It's not all that bad. It's more of a shocking experience than it is painful... unless you get a big monster of a snake LOL talking burmese pythons and retics.

Not saying that you -will- be bitten for these reasons, but I'm saying it -can- happen for these reasons.. and probably will at some point in your 10 - 15+ year ownership. With that kind of time... it's honestly inevitable that you're going to get bitten -at least- once... except for maybe with hognoses.

[molson101]

I know taht but do King snakes seem to bite alot. And does it hurt if they bite u whem they are adults. Also how big do they get and how many gallons should the tank be.

[molson101]

If I can convice my mother it will be my first snake so I kind of need this Info,Thanks.

[Sapphyr]

Kings get between 3 - 5ft. Would need a 20g at most.

[whoaxmary]

Beautiful snakes everyone! ;3

[2006gt]

I know taht but do King snakes seem to bite alot. And does it hurt if they bite u whem they are adults. Also how big do they get and how many gallons should the tank be.

kings are known to be unpredictable biters. they get 3-5 ft and if it going to be your only snake i would just get an adult a 40 gallon breeder give it a lil more room. also if i were you id get a corn, milk. unless you can find an adult king that has been handled alot? good luck!

[Lankyrob]

If you have ever been bitten by a cat or a puppy then a snake bite probably will be unnoticed until you see the blood - their teeth are soooo sharp you barely notice.

[TeaNinja]

If you have ever been bitten by a cat or a puppy then a snake bite probably will be unnoticed until you see the blood - their teeth are soooo sharp you barely notice.

after i got bit, it felt very irritated and itchy and strange because mr redtail chewed on my hand for a few seconds lol. other then some discomfort, it wasn't bad at all.

[molson101]

So u think i should be leaning towards milks or corns? I love corns and milks but kings are my favorite!

[molson101]

And why an adult king? Id rather it grow up with me!

[2006gt]

I was saying an adult cause it seems your really worried about getting bit and baby's aren't used to humans trying to grab at them and you will most likely beable to find a juvi adult that has been handled alot more in it's life and less likely to bite you, you so not have to take my advice on this but it could help you in enjoying your snake better of it's not trying to bite you alot. And also I said milks or corns cause there known to be less likely to bite you than a king snake not saying they won't bite you I'm saying it's less likely, but if kings are your favorite than by all means get one and enjoy it the more you hold and work with it the better they will become

[molson101]

Thanks, are milks much the same because there are Milk snakes I love to, like the albino honduran tangerine Miliksnake. Do they like to come out alot and how big do they get. Do they alos need a 20-40 gallon. Bigger or Smaller?

[molson101]

Sorry for asking for all this info its going to be my first snake.

[2006gt]

its all good thats why we have forums to get your questions answered!!

milk snakes do not come out all that much except for nights, but all snakes are different out of all 3 of my milks my normal sinaloan milk comes out the most. they will be fine in a 20 gallon long for a long time. and honduran milks can get up to 5-6 feet 4.5 -5 being more frequent. and the albino tangerine would be an awesome snake to get!! although i find hondos to be a lil more of a shy snake when small but grow out of it with normal handling and getting used to the enviroment they are in, mine is flighty at first but settles down pretty quickly he is still very young 8-10 months old.

[Lankyrob]

Sorry for asking for all this info its going to be my first snake.

Much brtter to ask upfront rather than when it is too late, kudos to you.

[2006gt]

Much brtter to ask upfront rather than when it is too late, kudos to you.

exactly haha its better to figure it out so we dont get a "HELP MY SNAKE IS ACTING WIERD" thread or he isnt eating theres no such thing as a dumb question just dumb answers haha

[mld]

Its always nice to see people doing their research first, then buy on impulse.
Like was said earlier, better to know more than not enough. I applaud you for asking questions and I think that any responsible person would do the same thing.:)

[2006gt]

Yeahh I am looking at snake info all the time just to improve my knowledge of the species im dealing with or what looking into acquiring in the future hope your mom let's you get a snake

[derekcm87]

I thought the same :D

Anywho, Derek, AMAZING collection. I'm not much of a King fan but wow.. Your collection just might of changed my mind. c:

Also, so jealous of you and 2006gt D; I love Tangerine Honduran Milk Snakes.


Thanks Sapphyr, You know somehow I ended up with kingsnakes coming out of my ears lol. It was my first colubrid, maybe thats why? I am starting to get quiet the collection of rat snakes now...

[molson101]

Thanks alot so u guys think that Milks are better for not bitting? And are corns good for coming out alot because I just dont want a snake that is hiding all the time. I really like kings but now I am definetly leaning more towards Milks? Thanks for all the info, it just feels like im asking to much. But u guys say its fine so thanks.

[molson101]

I am still not sure if I am allowed to get one but my mom says that the more I research the more of a chance I have for getting one. I will be the madest person in the whole world if after all this research im not allowed to get one.

[molson101]

Its so hard to chose wich one I wnat there are so many choises of colors. Im really leaning torwards the albino honduran tangerine milk snake exept they are known to hide alot.

[2006gt]

i got my hondo in december the day after christmas and ive seen him out of his hides in the middle of the night 5 times or less def a shy shy snake i would still not count them out when they get bigger and more comfortable they will be more visible. def a handlable snake but shy. i would get for your first snake any milk, corn they are great for first timers and pretty hardy to beginner mistakes!!

[Freebody]

whats are some good canadian places to buy king snakes. i never see any around here?

[2006gt]

some breeders in the us will and can ship to canada. im not sure who look on kingsnake .com or faunaclassifieds.com

[Lankyrob]

The trouble is that hiding is down to the individual snake. I ahve three corns = two hide most of the time and the other is out cruising around his viv constantly, unfortunately until you get the snaek you will never know.

[molson101]

Thanks guys I think I will get the Milk. If im allowed getting one.

[2006gt]

Good choice they are great snakes!!

[mld]

whats are some good canadian places to buy king snakes. i never see any around here?

Here is one site that I found they are in Ontario.
Tails and Scales (http://www.tailsandscales.ca/index.html)

This one is in BC and carries corns and milk snakes and come very highly recommended.
Available Cornsnakes (http://www.rrrcorns.com/available_corns.htm)

[molson101]

Thanks Alot

[Marica]

I've picked up several snakes from Rebecca, both in person at the summer shows in Red Deer and the Calgary shows (not sure if she makes the trip up to the Edmonton shows), as well as had her ship. You may also want to check out the local reptile forums here in Alberta to get info on local breeders and upcoming reptile shows.

[Freebody]

i was at rebecca's house a few months ago with my folks, but unfortunatly she does not really dabble in kings, the link you posted for me marica was broken, i did happen to see it on the corn website but it said shes got a long waiting list for the mbks and she wants to keep them or somthing like that. im considering calling and asking for one. just looking around, i would like to get 1 kingsnake, to eat the still born or deformed babies if and when i ever get them in later years when i start breeding, and mbks are just so darn beautifull i dont really need a reason other than i want one lol
thx for the sites ill check them out. mostly just looking atm, not 100% if its this year, next year, but my dad wants one Now! so im searching for him :)

[molson101]

I want one now! It looks like I wont be getting one now. I am kinda pissed off. Mabye I can convice them still or mabye they will suprise me but if I dont get one I will be the maddest person in the universe. After all this info and all ur guys help. I am really mad now she said it was almost impossible for me to convince her. I want a milk snake soooo bad they are so beautiful. I have waanted a snake for like half my life and I will not give up.

[molson101]

Ive always loved them because my friend has a beautiful Milk snake and I will be so pissed off. GRRRRRRRRRR :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

[2006gt]

that sucks just bug the crap out of her tell her its going to teach you responsibility and its something you love and she should let you at least have a chance at owning a milk snake!! tell her i said to let you have it hahahaha

[Freebody]

hey molson101 these are for sale, 1.1 Albino Nelson's Milksnakes $300 from the breader i buy almost all my snakes from. Henry Piorun Reptiles-Canadian Reptile Breeder (http://www.a1pythons.com/) Great breader! they look so good i am tempted to buy them :P

[2006gt]

those are very nice!!

[molson101]

Thanks but are there any milk snakes that are cheaper than 100 dollars kinda tight on money. If not I will just get a corn because I know they are cheaper. They are also supposed to come out more so........

[molson101]

And yeah I tryed that I think im getting closer to convincing her. All this work better pay off.

[molson101]

Also are there any cool albino corn snakes that are relatively cheap. Because I still have to buy the tank and all the supplies if im allowed.

[2006gt]

there are hundreds of morphs for corns... and corns dont come out more or less than any other colubrid all baby snakes will hide, they feel they are in danger out in the open.

[Sapphyr]

Also are there any cool albino corn snakes that are relatively cheap. Because I still have to buy the tank and all the supplies if im allowed.

So, Molson, is your mother against Breed Specific Legislation? BSL is for killing and eradicating all dogs seen as violent/killers, mainly pitbulls. If she's against BSL, just tell her it's just as bad to hate snakes. Pitbulls have a TERRIBLE wrap thanks to the media. Snakes, also, have a bad wrap thanks to the media. And if that don't work, try and show her they're not as bad as she thinks. Show her a picture of a small kid holding a snake. Show her videos of people with snakes or just snakes acting cute(I really think it's cute when a snake puts its jaw back into place, resulting in an action we would call a yawn).

http://fineartamerica.com/images-medium/little-girl-with-snake-mark-coran.jpg

Kid still has a pacifier, yet holds the snake like a pro... almost.

Just look up Kid with Snake on google and you'll find tons. Even a little girl holding a juvenile(?) albino Burmese Python.

CraA-3kq534

A corn snake 'yawning'. I find it cute <3

[molson101]

Sh s not against them she just doesnt like them and doesnt want it in the house. I said thats like saying, lets get rid of the dog because I dont like them now! Very stupid. I might be able to get a corn that I found on kijiji that was really cheap. Brand new baby corn thats never bitten that comes with a 20 gallon and all the supplies. Even 4 Weeks worth of food and a light. For only 130 dollars.

[Sapphyr]

Sh s not against them she just doesnt like them and doesnt want it in the house. I said thats like saying, lets get rid of the dog because I dont like them now! Very stupid. I might be able to get a corn that I found on kijiji that was really cheap. Brand new baby corn thats never bitten that comes with a 20 gallon and all the supplies. Even 4 Weeks worth of food and a light. For only 130 dollars.

Yeh, my mother was the same way. Though, she hated them 'cause they ate meat, which is stupid 'cause 90% of our animals ate meat to begin with.

[molson101]

I need to bring that up. Ill be like, see everybody elses mother let them eventually because they arent that bad your just over reacting.

[Sapphyr]

I need to bring that up. Ill be like, see everybody elses mother let them eventually because they arent that bad your just over reacting.

LOL, yea, I guess.

Edit: But, my mother knew it was either she got me one, or I'm getting one, myself. Was going to hide it in my closet.

[molson101]

Yeah just talked to her she is being very annoying.. She says there is no way I can convince her. I dont know what she has against them. Now I am insanly mad because she has no reason at all she is just being very annoying..

[molson101]

I am so pissed.

[Sapphyr]

Eh.. If you got a car and you can drive, I'd say just save up money and go out and get one while they're at work. Hide it in your closet like I was planning on doing.

[derekcm87]

I remember those days... I used to beg my mom constantly as a kid to get a snake. I would go to a local reptile store and the owner was a great guy and really knew his stuff (R.I.P.) Steve, He would let me come in and hold some snakes. Eventually when i was 10, after years of daily pleading and convincing she allowed me to get a ball python. Just be patient with her and try to educate her on them and show her how much you know and how you get excited learning about the animals. Most importantly you must prove you are responsible enough to own them. All Moms are different. I am just sharing my experience and looking back.

[Lankyrob]

Eh.. If you got a car and you can drive, I'd say just save up money and go out and get one while they're at work. Hide it in your closet like I was planning on doing.

Dont hide it away, snakes need a day/night cycle that they arent going to get in a closet. It also isnt going to help your mum to trust you in the future to get one "properly".

Just be patient, mature, and keep doing your research and reading, my experience would be that constantly asking/nagging isnt going to help either. It eill end up being that snakes are just a trigger for annoyance in your mum snd then it will never happen.

Be calm, be patient and good luck.

[2006gt]

just like me my mom said no snakes only lizards, so my "dad" took me to the petstore and got me 2 baby corns when i was 11 mom was mad but got over it. and he bought me my first water dragon when i was 3 he took care of it till i was like 7 then i did he lived with us till i was 13 years old his name was "baby" Named him when i was young hahah the day he died was the saddest day:no:... but thats what happens i had 10 years with him that was worth it he was an awesome lizard

[Sapphyr]

Dont hide it away, snakes need a day/night cycle that they arent going to get in a closet. It also isnt going to help your mum to trust you in the future to get one "properly".

Just be patient, mature, and keep doing your research and reading, my experience would be that constantly asking/nagging isnt going to help either. It eill end up being that snakes are just a trigger for annoyance in your mum snd then it will never happen.

Be calm, be patient and good luck.

Oh I know that. In an earlier post I'd stated I planned on going to the pet store and getting a snake, cage, cage accessories, etc. while they were at work and I had the money I'd estimated I'd need. I have shelves built in my closet, so I planned on placing the, starting, 10g tank on a shelf, have the shelf above empty to place a heat lamp on top. They're metallic shelves with bars. There's about an inch gap between each bar, so it's not like the lamp would start a fire(wood shelves) or not shine through enough(solid/closely barred shelves). Would use a heatpad for night time temps and the lamp during the day for daytime, similar to how I do now with my BRB and my soon to be hognose.

And, ofcourse, there's the frozen mice. If she'd found them in the freezer downstairs, she woulda known and possibly flipped. I was willing to go the extra mile, get a mini freezer to put on the far left shelf top in my closet, run an extension outlet into the closet to run electricity to the lamp, heatpad, and freezer. The freezer would have doubled my estimate, but I was willing to do it.

As for trust? She would have gotten over it. She only claimed to hate them on behalf of meat eating, which is ridiculous because I eat meat, her husband eats meat, and 90% of our animals eat meat based products. She'd also stated earlier that she only cared about me getting more cats/dogs. She didn't care about more ferrets, rats, etc. This popped up 'cause I secretly added a rat to the family... She's unfortunately passed on account of old age. And to add to the situation, 2 ferrets and a golden malaysian gecko are kept secret from her husband. The rat was also a secret, but he one day meandered into my room and saw it.

Funny story, he came in, looked at it, and went,"Where's the other one?..." and I was like,"Uhhhh... What.. other one?" and he's like,"I thought you had two white ones.." and I said,"The ferrets?.. That's not a ferret.. The ferrets are over there." and he was like,"... Oh." LOL He's.. not too bright.

[molson101]

My mom is differnet the more research I do, the more she thinks I am getting obsessed. Very annoying. Thanks for the support. Ive wanted one for 4 years and I will not give up. No matter how many times she says no.

[molson101]

And if I did that she would never get over it and I would be grouded for like a month. Just for sneaking something behind her back. I am dead set nd eventually she will give in. Mabye she will even grow to like it so I can get more. Im also the same she said I could get a lizard but not a snake because of the meat thing. But I said that lizards eat meat too but she says that mice are worse than crickets. When snakes are little can they eat Crickets? As I said I dont know very much about snakes.

[Sapphyr]

My mom is differnet the more research I do, the more she thinks I am getting obsessed. Very annoying. Thanks for the support. Ive wanted one for 4 years and I will not give up. No matter how many times she says no.

Wait wait wait. I thought you said you've wanted one for half your life. You're 8? If you're 8 she may not think you're ready for one yet ,:c ..

At any rate.. Hey, I'll gladly admit I'm obsessed LOL Love my snakies <3

Edit: There is a snake that eats crickets.. someone posted about theirs but I really can't remember the name.. I heard they're hard to keep :c... There's also the African Egg-Eating snake...

[Lankyrob]

Frozen mice have no smell, sound etc. Crickets are noisy as hell and smell and can escape!!

[2006gt]

if your 8 i think there is a reason why you cant get one? and also the snake that eats crickets and worms is a rough green snakethose can be cool too then she can say yes haha or get a legless lizard

[molson101]

The half my life was an exaggeration. I am 13. I have wanted one for 4 years, since I was 9.

[molson101]

She wont let me have one because she is not fond of mice even if there frozen and yes I know it is stupid because crickets actually can get out and make alot of noise but frozen mice cant. Its very confusing, I barely get it. Ill keep trying on her and see if she will give in.

[mld]

She wont let me have one because she is not fond of mice even if there frozen and yes I know it is stupid because crickets actually can get out and make alot of noise but frozen mice cant. Its very confusing, I barely get it. Ill keep trying on her and see if she will give in.

Why don't you ask your mom what you can do to prove that you are responsible enough to own a snake and how important it is to you to grow and learn!
Just being a member of a forum like this is a great start, be patient and don't get frustrated or rude to your mother, it just put more ammunition in her gun.
As a mother, I know that some pets end up being mothers responsibility! Not saying that you would do this but at 13 there should be some give and take, its part of growing up.
Good Luck:)

[molson101]

Oh ya I have told her that she doesnt have to touch the thing or anyhting to do with it and it isnt the responsibility she is worried about she just hates snakes. Because she said I could get a lizard just not a snake. So its not responsibility. Its just that she is imposible to reason with.

[Sapphyr]

Oh yeaaahhh.. I forgot about the legless lizards.. Only issue with them is, especially the Glass Lizard, is their tail could break off.. and rather easily, too. There's also the Slowworm lizard. Both are limbless lizards that appear as if they're snakes.

[molson101]

Lol you have an answer for every thing dont u.

[molson101]

I have no idea what to do. I really wnt one because I really love them but im not allowed. I wont give up but I have a bad feeling that the final answer is going to be a No.

[Sapphyr]

Who, me? Lol, naw. I just know a good deal of things c: .. just not everything. xD

Anywho, it seems like it very well could be 'No'... Then again, turned out my mother was toying around with me the entire time and I got a corn for Christmas. Unfortunately for her, I'd been snooping around in the room she told me not to go in and I found it LOL

[Marica]

Have you gone to any of the local reptile shows? There's one every spring and fall in Edmonton and another down in Red Deer every summer. Convince her to go to one of those. Show her how excited your are and how interesting the hobby can be. There'll be tons of other reptile enthusiasts there and tons of breeders to answer all her and your questions - should you even have any more by then ;) My boyfriend and his mom were not cool with my snakes, actually phobic at first, but a couple years later and she's holding some of my snakes and going to the shows with us and my bf is bringing new ones home himself :D

[Sapphyr]

Have you gone to any of the local reptile shows? There's one every spring and fall in Edmonton and another down in Red Deer every summer. Convince her to go to one of those. Show her how excited your are and how interesting the hobby can be. There'll be tons of other reptile enthusiasts there and tons of breeders to answer all her and your questions - should you even have any more by then ;) My boyfriend and his mom were not cool with my snakes, actually phobic at first, but a couple years later and she's holding some of my snakes and going to the shows with us and my bf is bringing new ones home himself :D

Both of them were? 'Cause I'm getting a hognose because, one, I love 'em, and two, my bf has a mild phobia of snakes. Mainly of being bitten. I think a small snake that's reluctant to bite would be good for him to start out with. I mean, it's still my snake, but also to get him used to them and holding them.

[Marica]

Yep. My bf wouldn't even go into the room I kept my snakes in when we started dating. Shortly after moving in together, I made him hold my old anery when I was cleaning his cage out and when I was done and came back for my snake he had made his way into his sleeve, then relieved himself - oddly my bf found it kind of endearing :rolleyes:

And the mom couldn't even look at a photo of a snake. A couple reptile shows later and she worked up the nerve to hold one of ours, and it was even one of our Dumeril's! She still doesn't 'like' them, but she appreciates them and our interest.

Oh, and it's taken me a year of awing at hognose pics for my bf to agree that they're cute. Unfortunately, they're illegal to own here :(

[Sapphyr]

Yep. My bf wouldn't even go into the room I kept my snakes in when we started dating. Shortly after moving in together, I made him hold my old anery when I was cleaning his cage out and when I was done and came back for my snake he had made his way into his sleeve, then relieved himself - oddly my bf found it kind of endearing :rolleyes:

And the mom couldn't even look at a photo of a snake. A couple reptile shows later and she worked up the nerve to hold one of ours, and it was even one of our Dumeril's! She still doesn't 'like' them, but she appreciates them and our interest.

Oh, and it's taken me a year of awing at hognose pics for my bf to agree that they're cute. Unfortunately, they're illegal to own here :(

Ahhhh :x That's cute.~ Hopefully my story will go down the same way.~

And really? :c Why're they illegal?

[Marica]

Western Hognose are a protected species in my province and therefore can not be possessed.

[Sapphyr]

Western Hognose are a protected species in my province and therefore can not be possessed.

Really?.. That's kinda stupid. Wikipedia has them listed as 'Least Concern'.

Heterodon nasicus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heterodon_nasicus)

And besides, they won't even let you have them if you buy them online from breeders? Kinda stupid if not since those are captive bred. They should atleast allow you to own them as long as they know where you got it from to keep people from snatching them from the wild.

[Marica]

It is a little silly considering they only occupy a very small corner of Alberta and are readily available through several breeders in other provinces where they're not restricted. Why try to catch a wild specimen when you can cheaply purchase a healthy cb and choose from a variety of morphs?

[Damion930]

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e6/demon930_2008/2011-02-27_18-56-03_494.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e6/demon930_2008/2011-02-27_18-21-29_907.jpg
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http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e6/demon930_2008/2011-02-27_18-46-07_446.jpg
just a few of my mbk

[Sapphyr]

It is a little silly considering they only occupy a very small corner of Alberta and are readily available through several breeders in other provinces where they're not restricted. Why try to catch a wild specimen when you can cheaply purchase a healthy cb and choose from a variety of morphs?

Eh well.. I guess some places have their own ridiculously stupid laws that probably haven't been thought out to the fullest extent. Kinda like how we have a law where your pets can't be buried. Something to do with polluting the water. I'd maybe understand if we used wells... but.. we don't use wells. I've only seen one well in this city and it got knocked over. Besides, wild animals die all the time.

[mld]

Gorgeous MBK, they are one of my favourites! Thanks for sharing:)

[ineedsoap16]

Here is our MBK and new Brooksi

[tyson187]

Here is some new pics of my female cali kingsnake...

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/4259/2011030507.jpg

http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/8454/2011030506.jpg

http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/6365/2011030502.jpg

http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/4905/20110305.jpg

Is she fatty?:)

[TeaNinja]

soap that brooks is really nice.

and that is a nice king tyson :)