New Black Racer Pics!!

[infernalis]

Toby is certainly a very curious snake, as long as I don't touch him, he will take pinks off the tongs, he let me do this whole photo shoot today while he was getting ready to shed, He even came up and "sniffed" the camera a couple times.
http://www.reptard.info/Toby/tibieface.jpg

http://www.reptard.info/Toby/tobie.jpg

http://www.reptard.info/Toby/Toby.jpg

http://www.reptard.info/Toby/toby1.jpg

http://www.reptard.info/Toby/toby3A.jpg

http://www.reptard.info/Toby/toby4.jpg

http://www.reptard.info/Toby/tobytop.jpg

http://www.reptard.info/Toby/tobieshed.jpg

[Ch^4]

Beautiful snake and great photo shoot! I really like his face and the color gradient from his nose to the back of his head! You all amaze me with your shedding pics...maybe one day.

I always seem to miss the shed process by a few minutes :( However, I have managed to capture my Cali King on video shedding once.

My BRB shed yesterday and my JCP a few days back...My BP within the next 3 days....Maybe I'll catch him in action as I missed the other 2!

[marvelfreak]

Toby looking sweet. Love his big eyes.

[infernalis]

don't let the big eyes fool you, like the big bad wolf,
"all the better to see you with when I bite your hand"

[marvelfreak]

don't let the big eyes fool you, like the big bad wolf,
"all the better to see you with when i bite your hand"
otflmao 10974

[Ninja]

Cool pic I have seen lots of racers around here. Never seen a black one though!

[shaunyboy]

Toby looking sweet. Love his big eyes.

^^^^^
same for me wayne i'm loving them big soppy eyes of his

cheers shaun

[Michael Roth]

great pics, as usual :>

[infernalis]

Thanks. He is a little beastie.

Racers use keen vision to home in on prey, hence the big eyes. they will pursue and overtake unlike most any other snake. literally chase the mouse, skink or Anole at great speed for as long as it takes to capture and eat.

Toby saw the floor once in his life, it was a bear getting him back into custody. He leaped away and was gone so quick my only lucky break was he boxed himself in to a corner of the room.

[Damion930]

U have a wonderful collection that totaly reminds me of childhood and all the lil guys I would hunt for still can't help snatchn one up for a min or 2 if I see one

[infernalis]

bump......

[CK SandBoas]

Great photos !!! And I love that face:)

[youngster]

Love it! What's the husbandry like?

[infernalis]

Water mice room temp 20 long & repti bark.

Simple colubrid care.

The first two months sucked, he refused everything but live anoles.

[youngster]

AAAGGHHH. I want one soooo bad!!!

[snake man12]

Omg now I wan't one . care sounds so easy

[brandonh]

Amazing photos

Toby almost has a evil smile :) lol

[infernalis]

took some pics, sorry, through the glass, only 2 were even worth looking at. Toby is crazy long now, easily 4 foot or more.. (Impossible to measure such a flighty snake)

http://www.danceswithreptiles.com/toby/toby1.jpg

http://www.danceswithreptiles.com/toby/toby2.jpg

[Corey209]

Are black racers common captives? I haven't really seen any for sale locally.

[infernalis]

Are black racers common captives? I haven't really seen any for sale locally.

Not really common, they are mean, nasty snakes. Compound that with they are primarily lizard eaters that require "training" to get them onto rodents.

Toby ate nothing but Anoles for the first few months I had him.

I have had mine for a few years now, and I cannot even pick him up unless he's got a mouse in his mouth at the time.

[Corey209]

Not really common, they are mean, nasty snakes. Compound that with they are primarily lizard eaters that require "training" to get them onto rodents.

Toby ate nothing but Anoles for the first few months I had him.

I have had mine for a few years now, and I cannot even pick him up unless he's got a mouse in his mouth at the time.

Was he a wild caught or captive bred?

[infernalis]

Got him from a dealer in a trade, he was a hatchling when I got him.

http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/general-colubrid-forum/82885-black-racer-baby-florida.html

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[Corey209]

Got him from a dealer in a trade, he was a hatchling when I got him.

http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/general-colubrid-forum/82885-black-racer-baby-florida.html

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That sucks that even while captive they can be so nasty.

[infernalis]

That sucks that even while captive they can be so nasty.

I actually think it's really cool.. Most of my snakes are biters, makes a great reason to leave them alone.

[SSSSnakes]

Great looking snake. I love Black Racers, but currently do not have one in my collection. I'll have to see if I can locate one, now that you have stimulated my interest in them again.

[infernalis]

http://www.danceswithreptiles.com/racer/toby1.jpg

http://www.danceswithreptiles.com/racer/toby2.jpg

http://www.danceswithreptiles.com/racer/toby3.jpg

http://www.danceswithreptiles.com/racer/toby4.jpg

http://www.danceswithreptiles.com/racer/toby5.jpg

[sharthun]

Toby is awesome! Always vigilant! :D

[drumcrush]

Toby is adorable!

[Sublimeballs]

Ill never get tired of racers. They're probably 40% of what I catch around here and never get boring to see in the wild. I can only imagine they're a blast in captivity other then the special care to start them on rodents. How big is he Wayne? I see some HUGE racers around here; bigger then I thought they got.

[infernalis]

he's 4 feet long and the diameter of a pointer finger.

slams 4-5 pinks per feeding, I will video a feeding, he hits his food like crazy

[Sublimeballs]

I can imagine, they hit me like crazy.lol. Can't wait to see a video. They're one of my favorite snake to happen upon, always a good catch. Ill have to dig around for a pic of one I caught a few years back that had to be just about 7 feet.

[infernalis]

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[knox]

I was bitten by one Black Racer on one grab more than all other snake bites combined over my years in the hobby LOL. Strike after strike after strike. It was impressive, the tenacity of that little snake.

[sharthun]

Yep they are fiesty! Awesome video!

[IW17]

Dang Toby quit beating yourself up!

[Kera]

Awesome video. :)

[DrummingT]

I can imagine, they hit me like crazy.lol. Can't wait to see a video. They're one of my favorite snake to happen upon, always a good catch. Ill have to dig around for a pic of one I caught a few years back that had to be just about 7 feet.

That would be a black rat snake if it was anywhere near seven feet.

Black racers do not do well in captivity. Whereas a king snake or rat snake might live 20 years in captivity - much longer than in the wild - a black racer will live two years or less in captivity. They will often cover two MILES in one day in the wild.

I caught one last year that was basking in the middle of a lightly traveled road. I was bitten twice. I took it home to show someone but let it go in the yard. A beautiful snake.

If you love something let it go.

[infernalis]

a black racer will live two years or less in captivity. If you love something let it go.

Really?

Then explain this....

http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/general-colubrid-forum/82885-black-racer-baby-florida.html

Toby 2010 (got the snake in 2009) :rolleyes:

Big cage, hands off = healthy snake

[LadyWraith]

Haha, he's quite the feisty little bugger. We see black racers around here occasionally. They are ridiculously fast and have no problem letting you know they don't want to be bothered lol.

[Sublimeballs]

That would be a black rat snake if it was anywhere near seven feet.
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I'd think the samething if someone told me they caught a nearly 7 foot racer. But it was a racer. The 3 main snakes I find are black rats, black racers, and copperheads. So I'm plenty familiar with the differences. Let me find the pic, I gotta dig out some old cell phones.

[Teal]

Oh wow, Toby is stunning! I love his attitude... I am perfectly fine with "display only animals" and I could stare at a snake like Toby all day long!

[brandonh]

Here is a juvenile that i found last year even when young they are such a beast lol
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk243/Brandon1001_photos/DSCN7183.jpg
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk243/Brandon1001_photos/DSCN7187.jpg

[Teal]

Hahaha that little guy meant it!

[SSSSnakes]

I use black racers and coach whips as part of my venomous training teaching. Because they are fast and nasty, my students have to handle them without protection and not get bit. Once you master that, most venomous snakes are nothing in comparison.

[CosmicOwl]

The black racers are all over the place where I live. I see at least one every day. Sometimes I will see two or three different snakes in the same day and it's pretty fun to watch them. On Sunday I spent a good 10 minutes following one around as it was hunting. Then I went out by the pool and almost stepped on one that was basking. I'd probably never own one because of their temperament(I want a snake that can tolerate handling), but they're enjoyable snakes to come across in the wild.

[Sublimeballs]

I use black racers and coach whips as part of my venomous training teaching. Because they are fast and nasty, my students have to handle them without protection and not get bit. Once you master that, most venomous snakes are nothing in comparison.


Awe, man....... Where were you in the species progression thread. I brought up racers as hot training tools. You could have chimed in.lol

That's what I love about finding racers. They're always so happy to see you and try to give you kisses...Too much teeth for me personally.

I would like to add for newbies reading this, he's not saying if you can handle a racer you can handle venomous snakes. Learn from someone with experience if you want to work with hots.

[SSSSnakes]

Awe, man....... Where were you in the species progression thread. I brought up racers as hot training tools. You could have chimed in.lol


I would like to add for newbies reading this, he's not saying if you can handle a racer you can handle venomous snakes. Learn from someone with experience if you want to work with hots.

Exactly Dealing with Racers or Coach Whips can be a small part of a venomous training program.

[Sublimeballs]

They are great for an aggressive snake experience. I had a lot of them go for my face. It's funny how scared other people get when you almost take a bite to the face.

Ok just realized I'm derailing this thread.
Sorry, carry on Wayne.