can somebody help? (Snake ID needed)

[timo868]

hi there,
I get this snake as a gift from my friend, can you tell me what kind of snake is this? :confused:

http://hh7.net/Nov/hh7net_12897818571.jpg

http://hh7.net/Nov/hh7net_12897829891.jpg

http://hh7.net/Nov/hh7net_12897829892.jpg

thanks :crazy:

[timo868]

Hello to all,

new to the forum, i just get a pet snake from a friend and i found this forum when i was searching the web, nice place to talk about snakes.

[infernalis]

http://www.thamfriends.com/mat.jpg

[TylerWortman]

Pretty cool looking snake!

[timo868]

thanks TylerWortman :)

[shaunyboy]

hello and welcome

its only carpet pythons i keep so im afraid i cant help you identify your new snake

it is very nice looking though

im thinking willow on here may know what it is

cheers shaun

[timo868]

thank u shaunyboy for ur reply

i hope someone will help to identify it

[timo868]

i figure out what kind of snake it's

it's Eastern Ribbon Snake :crazy2:

thanks for every one how tried 2 help me :)

u can read about it in this link

Eastern Ribbon Snake - North Carolina (http://www.bio.davidson.edu/projects/herpcons/herps_of_nc/snakes/Thasau/Tha_sau.html)

[infernalis]

I am sorry, but that is certainly not a ribbon snake or any other Thamnophis species.

The complete lack of a dorsal stripe and the orientation of the scales looks more like an Indonesian species of keelback snake.

[Grimleo]

http://northwestwildlifeonline.com/Saudi%20Arabian%20Reptiles.htm

Quick search shows the exact same snake..The guy who made the page didn't mention what kind of snake it was but he says it's rear-fanged and slightly venomous.

[amber_lynn]

looks like some sortof colubrid to me, im workin on it lol

[timo868]

****!! slightly venomous, i think i will change my mind and sell it :)

i sent an e-mail to a website asking them if they know anything about it.

you can check the site

Herpetology Laboratory at Davidson College, Davidson, North Carolina - Michael E. Dorcas (http://www.bio.davidson.edu/people/midorcas/dorcas_home.htm)

[infernalis]

****!! slightly venomous, i think i will change my mind and sell it :)

All of the keelback species of your region are mildly venomous, but completely harmless to humans.

They have "rear fangs" (located at the back of the mouth) and it's nearly impossible to get envenomed. (Poisoned)

The venom they do produce is intended to immobilize frogs, so even if you shoved your finger in the snakes mouth, it would not hurt you anymore than a wasp sting would.

Your snake will make a fine pet, and is likely used to food items that you can find locally.

[timo868]

i'm very thankful infernalis for helping me

but my friend bought it from a pet store and i think they bring it from out of my
region.

i don't know why, but i think it's a Ribbon Snake

[marvelfreak]

Hello and welcome! Wish i could help.

[infernalis]

i'm very thankful infernalis for helping me

but my friend bought it from a pet store and i think they bring it from out of my
region.

i don't know why, but i think it's a Ribbon Snake

The body structure is all wrong for a ribbon snake. And the scale orientation is all wrong.

Here is a pic of my pet ribbon snake.

http://www.ssnakess.info/critters/images/ribbon.jpg

[shaunyboy]

wayne (infernalis) is really the man to go to for garter stuff pal

he's pretty much the nutty garter proffesor

someone will give us a definate id on here

could it be that saudi arabian one wayne

the one in blindones link ?

cheers shaun

[percey39]

Most rear fanged snakes are hard to be envenomated by and you would have to let them sit there and chew or stick your finger deep in its mouth. Most species will only give you localised swelling and a itching sensation for a while if you are unlucky enough. There is some rear fanged species that will knock you over permanantly though.

[timo868]

here is some pic maybe it will help

http://hh7.net/Nov/hh7net_12898944801.jpg

http://hh7.net/Nov/hh7net_12898944802.jpg

http://hh7.net/Nov/hh7net_12898944803.jpg

[Nafun]

Definitely not a ribbon snake. No dorsal stripe.

Are the scales keeled? (ridged in the center)
What does its underbelly look like? (color, pattern, etc)


Or if all else fails, have your friend go to the person he got it from and ask them.