any suggestions??

[C#@$e]

so i was talking to my parents about getting a BRB and unfortunately they said no boas or pythons. ( this is absolutely and totally unfair) but any suggestions on a new snake other than a milk, king, or corn snake, that my parents might say yes to?

[infernalis]

How can they ever say no to a Garter Snake??

OK, I am biased....

http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/thamnophis/82907-more-thamnophis-pictures-added.html

[C#@$e]

i dont want a garter..... no way bro

[Bree]

i dont want a garter..... no way bro

Given that your parents have pretty much limited your choices...you might want to reconsider garter snakes, they definitely are beautifully patterned and interesting to watch being that they are awake during the day more than the night (well mine are awake all the time it always seems!)

You don't have alot of options left....

[LISA127]

no milk, king, corn, or garter......

ok then...this is going to be difficult!...lol

how about a western hognose? they're cute little guys.

are you strictly into snakes? maybe your parents would warm up to lizards a little better than snakes? Just wondering. I have two daughters about your age. They are 16 and 15. They grew up with me, so of course they grew up with snakes, lizards, turtles, etc.

[infernalis]

i dont want a garter..... no way bro

Why??

Hard to impress your buddies??

I have made a lot of really great friends with my garter snake collection.

They are not considered a "poor mans snake" anymore.

I have snakes here that cost hundreds of dollars to get.

http://www.thamnophis.us/snakes/masubius4.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.us/thams/albino.jpg

http://www.thamfriends.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=69&pictureid=1357

[C#@$e]

no milk, king, corn, or garter......

ok then...this is going to be difficult!...lol

how about a western hognose? they're cute little guys.

are you strictly into snakes? maybe your parents would warm up to lizards a little better than snakes? Just wondering. I have two daughters about your age. They are 16 and 15. They grew up with me, so of course they grew up with snakes, lizards, turtles, etc.

yea just snakes....... hog nose would be nice. Wayne its just that im not really a fan of garters, some are beautiful, but just not for me ya know.

[gonesnakee]

I take it their rule has little to do with the actual type of snake & more concern as to its size?
Bring home an 8ft Beautysnake or Indigo & see how they like that Vs a Sandboa or a Childrens Python ;) LOL
Maybe try to educate them more about the various types of snakes & explain that all Boids do not get excessively large etc. & many saty very small & docile.
A BRB is a very reasonable choice & will stay smaller & less "aggressive" than many Colubrids etc. Mark

[C#@$e]

A BRB is a very reasonable choice & will stay smaller & less "aggressive" than many Colubrids etc. Mark

thats what i was trying to tell them

[gonesnakee]

thats what i was trying to tell them

Tell them that well seasoned snake breeders (toots own horn LOL) are supporting your choice & that they should spend some time with you actually learning what is what & sharing some time with you as parents humoring their child & his hobby ;) Cheers Mark

[emseeKAY]

yeah, when mark puts it like that haha, try and convince them to go for a python or boid, theres also bullsnakes which are quite interesting, i like them lol although i dont know too much about them other then they make a very good rattlesnake impression lol

[gonesnakee]

How about a big Pinesnake that you can hear hiss from a block away that would probably never strike LOL Mark

[C#@$e]

i was kinda acctually looking at a gray banded king....

[infernalis]

i was kinda actually looking at a gray banded king....

Nice choice. Aggressive feeders, easy care, medium size.

[C#@$e]

if you here of any breeders that ship to SC, and are reliable let me know..... cause im starting to fall for garters and kings even though at first i didn't want them.

[emseeKAY]

How about a big Pinesnake that you can hear hiss from a block away that would probably never strike LOL Mark

hahaha made my day reading this one :D

[marvelfreak]

Check out this guy he's one of the best. Top on the line reptiles. Also at the bottom of the ad is Ben web site. I got my bredli carpet and marble borneo from him. I know Willow783 on here bought from him. kingsnake.com Classifieds: 16 INCH FEMALE GREYBANDED KINGSNAKE- $125 - PICS (http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=29&de=774865)

[C#@$e]

she is really beutiful

[Will0W783]

Bull and pine snakes are awesome. I have a little baby bull snake and he's full of spunk. He's never actually struck but when I open his cage he hisses like there's no tomorrow. It's the loudest, raspiest snake hiss. Bulls and pines also get around 7 feet long and fairly thick-bodied, so they are very impressive. They are intelligent and curious and will watch you. Also coachwhips, if you can find one, are an amazing snake. They are very intelligent for snakes and I've heard of someone who trained his to follow him around an obstacle course for food rewards. Coachwhips are the fastest snake in North America and can get 7 or so feet long. They are very alert and curious and are one of the few snake species that will try to stare you down. They are very defensive of their cages but many can be handled once out. I just bought my fiance a yearling coachwhip. I was not much into them and thought them kinda boring, but when I was bringing this little guy home he watched every single thing I did, from adjusting temperature in the car to fiddling with the radio, to simply having my hands on the wheel. Nothing got past him. I was impressed, and a bit intimidated. Also when I go in the room, he will come right up to the front of the cage and watch everything I do until I leave. I am really fascinated by him. One of the coolest colubrids I've ever had the pleasure of having in my house. ;)

[dragunov.762]

i have kings and i love them. i also have a RTB (its little right now) but bigger isn't necessarily better. kings and garters are usually cheaper (even for the cool morphs) than boas and pythons (compare a pudget sound garter to a sunglow RTB or a piebald BP) Kings and garters are also more active (at least my kings are more active than my boa) and therefore more entertaining.