Opps I Did It Again! 2010 Diamonds!

[gonesnakee]

Only day 48 yesterday (almost a week early), but the first one was out last night.
Snapped a few crappy pics here a couple minutes ago to share for now, THX Mark
P.S. Diamond Pythons BTW

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[BlindOne]

Congrats on the new kids

[shaunyboy]

congratulations mate,you've just gotta love diamonds...!!

out of curiousity how many diamonds have you produced in total through the years ?

i take my hat off to you mate,imo anyone who's contributed to adding more diamonds to our planet is doing an amazing job...!!
cheers shaun

[gonesnakee]

congratulations mate,you've just gotta love diamonds...!!

out of curiousity how many diamonds have you produced in total through the years ?

i take my hat off to you mate,imo anyone who's contributed to adding more diamonds to our planet is doing an amazing job...!!
cheers shaun

This will be my fourth year now, past 3 years have netted 36 total (13, 21 & 2 doh!).
This year I have this clutch as well as one due in approx a week based on these guys hatching now & another couple eggs the only ones from the 3rd clutch due in early to mid June.
So I could potentially produce more this year than all 3 past yeasrt combined :D (touches wood while typing LOL) THX Mark

[Freebody]

Grats !! would love to see some more pic,
just wondering how much you sell them for?

[gonesnakee]

Grats !! would love to see some more pic,
just wondering how much you sell them for?

I'll hopefully be getting some better pics here later tonight or tommorrow.
Not sure what I'll be selling them for when they are ready?
Likely in the $1200-$1500 range per pair depending on how things go with thsi & the other clutches THX Mark

[Freebody]

that a good price if i had the money i would take 2 in a heart beat, who know maybe ill pass these test and get this new job i applied for, and have the cash :P
i would still love to see some pics as they get older, keep us posted plz :)

[shaunyboy]

So I could potentially produce more this year than all 3 past yeasrt combined :D (touches wood while typing LOL) THX Mark[/quote]

i'll be rooting for you and your wee guys.
cheers shaun

[Nafun]

I wish I had $1200 to spend on a new snake. Diamonds are the most beautiful snakes in the world imo, and so dang rare.

[gonesnakee]

THX folks!
Freebody you will start to see update posts & then eventually ads when things are good to go, keep in touch THX Mark

[gonesnakee]

Of the 15 "good" eggs that remained here is the final outcome:
11 regular babies & 3 twins alive (so 14 baby Diamonds basically! )
1 twin, one malformed & one double header dead.
So bascially 17 snakes from 15 eggs due to 2 sets of twins, 14 live & 3 R.I.P.
THX Mark

see here for some good pics:

http://www.albertareptilesociety.org...ead.php?t=8139

THX Mitch

[Lankyrob]

Good result - hope they all make it to adulthood.

[Freebody]

its not letting me see the site. are they the gold and black or white and black diamonds?
they are 100% diamond? all i ever see is diamond cross somthing around here.

[gonesnakee]

its not letting me see the site. are they the gold and black or white and black diamonds?
they are 100% diamond? all i ever see is diamond cross somthing around here.

They are 100% PURE Diamonds yep.
As for the colors Q won't know how they turn out until they are a year or so old when they really start to develop their colors etc.
They look NOTHING at all as babies as they do as adults thats for sure, Mark
P.S. I'll see about tweaking up that link for you too here

[gonesnakee]

Diamond Pippies - The Alberta Reptile and Amphibian Society (http://www.albertareptilesociety.org/forum/showthread.php?t=8139)

Couldn't edit it above but try it from here, Mark

[gonesnakee]

its not letting me see the site. are they the gold and black or white and black diamonds?
they are 100% diamond? all i ever see is diamond cross somthing around here.

Slideshow link to lots of REAL Diamond pics ;) Mark

Image hosting, free photo sharing & video sharing at Photobucket (http://s398.photobucket.com/albums/pp67/GONESNAKEE/Diamond%20Pythons/?albumview=slideshow)

P.S. there are a bunch more pics in "subalbums" off of that one as well & all are "open" for anyone to view THX

[Freebody]

oh nice they both worked good. nice pics :)
im really hoping i can get the cash together for this litter rather than one of you next ones, they are so rare, im very happy your in canada.
you said pair im assuming thats a breeding pair?
will you know what they will look like by the time they are ready to go? and how long is that? im not a big fan of the ones that are really black and want to avoid getting any like that but you got a pics of ones that are exactly like i want, pics # 76.77.78 they were 2 big a file to post here. that was left to right down your list. just amazing looking.

[Freebody]

this is exactly what i want to get, but with all the color change they do over the first year or so like all morelia morphs i have read about. is there some tell tale signs for me in picking them out so i get a pair that is in my eyes just perfect. or a good site you like i can go read for myself. im going to try to answere my own questions,but i would like your input anyways.

[shaunyboy]

awsome slide show mate.never ceases to amaze me the colour change they go through in the first few months.

is that a coastal jag or a jungle/jag you had your diamond in with ?
i wish you well with your next clutch mate.
cheers shaun

[gonesnakee]

THX folks!
Ya the pics with the non Diamond there are my Coastal Jaguar female with my dark Diamond male from when I "made" Diamond Jaguars in 2008.
As for the yellow ones, most all mine turn out that way as you can see from the pics.
All the ones in the pics are of my breeders or their offspring.
All 3 of my girls are sisters & all have that look as does one of my males.
I only have the one realy dark male.
A pair refers to 1.1 as in one male, one female 2010 babies.
They would have to be grown up, tried & proven before being called a breeding pair.
A breeding pair of Diamonds would cost plenty more LOL
One can only speculate on just how yellow they will actually get as they do not get that way until they are over a year of age.
You can see when they are just young though how they have lots of that washed out scales type look that should be right yellow when they get older.
You can't go too wrong with a Diamond Python THX Mark

[Nafun]

Damn you for being in Canada.
I've determined I can spend that much on a snake as long as I don't tell my wife!

[Freebody]

ah kk i was thinking in my head a breeding pair as in male and female that would be ok to breed together 6-7 years down the road, i really dont know the first thing about breeding but i do want to do it one day. what better snake to pick than diamonds, cant go wrong with diamonds is exactly what i was thinking. i cant wait to see more pics as they get older.

[gonesnakee]

ah kk i was thinking in my head a breeding pair as in male and female that would be ok to breed together 6-7 years down the road, i really dont know the first thing about breeding but i do want to do it one day. what better snake to pick than diamonds, cant go wrong with diamonds is exactly what i was thinking. i cant wait to see more pics as they get older.
Girls are usually good to go by the time they are 4 or 5 YO & males as young as 2-3 YO.
I figured thats what you meant but though I had better clairify LOL Cheers Mark

[Freebody]

oh really, oh thats sounds better i was just reading a breeding info page on diamonds and it said 7 years for females and 5 for males, i was thinking it was pretty old but i was thinking maybe it was just the strain or somthing. 4-5 years is what i always remeber hearing as well with the couple year younger males.

[gonesnakee]

oh really, oh thats sounds better i was just reading a breeding info page on diamonds and it said 7 years for females and 5 for males, i was thinking it was pretty old but i was thinking maybe it was just the strain or somthing. 4-5 years is what i always remeber hearing as well with the couple year younger males.

Those figures would actually be more accurate when refering to wild specimens as they get far less to eat there afterall & grow much more slowly.
THX Mark

[Freebody]

just wondering if you got a few recent pics of these little guys you would like to post? how old are they now couple months?

[gonesnakee]

They are now a month old & most have just taken their first meals of live fuzzy mice these past few days.
They are not much to look at yet as they stay in their "ugly duckling" stage for approx the first year before they start to get nicer & nicer every shed.
I can try to grab some pics, but they are hard to get good ones of at this stage, plus they tend not to cooperate much with the crappy photographer either LOL THX Mark

[shaunyboy]

diamond at 6 months
http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq17/spilota01/newdiamond018.jpg
diamond at 20 months
http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq17/spilota01/diamond%20tank/gooddiamondpics002.jpg

diamonds imo are very slow growing snakes compaired to all other morelia ive worked with.very different in lots of ways from morelia.i only have a basking spot on 4 hours per day.winter cool down to 50f,55f for 4 months and only feed 6 months of the year.they are very good to work with and are truely fascinating and remarkable snakes.freebody in that 2nd picture of yours id say that was a diamond intergrade not a pure diamond.intergrades can be kept like normal carpets but if you keep a diamond too hot they tend to drop dead on you.imo they have to be cooled from their first year onwards so come time to brumate them they're used to the low temps.

sorry for the thread hijack mark.

cheers shaun

[Freebody]

thx for the tip i was reading that some place else as well, i have been doing my homework in hopes to snage 2 of these bad boys before they are gone.I got a guy comeing over to check out and hopefully buy my old dirt bike i got sitting out back not ridden in a year, i figure 2 of these are better than an unused dirtbike under a tarp for a year collecting rust :P "got my fingers crossed he takes it im giving him a god enouph deal on it get my snake money Now!! lol. I have been trying to find examples of before and after pics in hopes that their is identifiying features to help pick 2 that will be very golden ie like jaguars if they are like a light redish brown/blonde looking they tend to turn more of a bright yellow after, or at least i read that a few places now and seen before and after pics and they do seem that way as well. thx for the 6 month to 20 month gives me a better idea of how much they change.i see lots of pics but only 1 or 2 of them growing, if you guys got any site for me to check up or pics of them aging for the first 2 years at differant intervals that would be very apreciated :)

[Freebody]

so if those are most likley a intergrade is that why its so yellow and pure diamonds dont look like that?

[gonesnakee]

so if those are most likley a intergrade is that why its so yellow and pure diamonds dont look like that?

Pure Diamonds depending on where they are found "locally" in Australia have a wide variety of looks from almost solid black with small white rosettes to the high yellow ones with the washed out yellow where black would be & anything in between.
Diamonds like all "carpets" will naturally intergrade in the wild as well, Mark

edit - the one mentioned that could be a potential intergrade I would say the comment is based on how the "rosettes" are not really small/tight but large & almost band like in spots

[blkjkoknhrt]

Must be so exciting to see the lil fellers hatch - congrats and Good luck with 'em all!

[shaunyboy]

Pure Diamonds depending on where they are found "locally" in Australia have a wide variety of looks from almost solid black with small white rosettes to the high yellow ones with the washed out yellow where black would be & anything in between.
Diamonds like all "carpets" will naturally intergrade in the wild as well, Mark

edit - the one mentioned that could be a potential intergrade I would say the comment is based on how the "rosettes" are not really small/tight but large & almost band like in spots


thats exactley what i based my opinion on mark the rossettes.pure diamonds tend not have any banding freebody.on a diamond specialist forum the general concensus is the rossettes should be made up of no more than 10 scales.you do get pure diamonds who will break this rule from time to time.imo that would be 2 rossetttes tight together.whats pure and whats not is a very controversial subject amongst diamond keepers.its a huge bonus if the diamond you are after has a proven bloodline mate.i honestly put 2 years of research into diamonds before getting my non locale specific pure diamond.i was stung by a high diamond influenced diamond/jungle that was sold to me as a pure black and white diamond.it was my own fault as all i saw was oh im getting a diamond and had tunnel vision and only saw what i wanted to see i suppose.my advice would be to only buy a diamond from a reputable breeder such as mark.its the easiest way to make sure your getting exactley what you asked for.as mark says most opinions are based on the rossettes mate.
cheers shaun

[Freebody]

i could see how getting a diamond would give a person tunnel vision :P they are in a legue of their own. I dont mean to sound stupid but the rosetts are the patch of 4 diamond grouped together right? and the port mac i have just stumbled onto has a similar look but with the stripes like what i see in the 2 pics i posted, or am i standing in left feild still lol ? touchy subject this pure diamond python deal from all the reading and pissing contest on different forum threads i have read on the subject of identifying.I seem kinda foolish me saying i like diamond pythons to look at one and say i like it and find out its not a diamond :P dont worry yall their is hope for me yet lol oh i would like to confirm that most of the time the offspring of morilias after the ugly ducking stage will turn out to be very similar to the parent, like if the parents are dark the offspring will be darker if the parent or real bright or golden the ofspring will most likely turn out that way as well dispite what their type ie,diamonds,coastals,jungles,jags... just in general morelia species ?

[Freebody]

sorry i think i jacked your thread i will stop and post any diamond questions on a new thread :) I just love your diamonds photo bucket spread so much i got learn more on them. beautiful :)

[gonesnakee]

Its my understanding that a Port Mac is a Diamond/Coastal intergrade, Mark

[Freebody]

ya thats what i read, they look very similar or at least they did to me :P <<< noob lol