You will never get this.

[=Carinata=]

YouTube - rough scale python (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dZiqDY1cZo)
YouTube - rough-scale python morelia carinata (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVpzf9lHAz4)
Read and weep rough-scale python lovers, i have three of these babies and you forieners will probally never see one. Not even at the zoo.
If anyone has a rare or exotic python or boa add it to to this thread, i would love to see. com'on make me jealous.

[citysnakes]

dude, next time im in Australia im going to creep into your backyard and take those badboys. then we'll see who weeps!

[Freebody]

not sure how rare they are down under but here in canada they are pretty rare
Dwarf albino dark lavander retic python,2008 female "Bella" is her name
i was just looking at those you tube videos of your snakes a week or so ago,small world. nice snakes!

[=Carinata=]

I wish we could keep retic pythons. Even if wasn't a morph. They would be real fun to keep. I love the berms and boa's, rock pythons and all that. Don't know much about the different types of morphs. Not soo fun to learn about when you can't have one. Its great to see what other keepers love to show off. You americans can get just about anything. Thats a stunning snake, i'll remember that one. Dwaft Albino lavander retic

[Freebody]

as of april we need to get a permit to own then, they are illegal to breed and sell and import now,soon im sure they will revoke permits and ban the owner ship as well, im canadian,you know the other americans lol :P. in canada we dont have near as many breeders as they do, so many different morphs and breeds are ouch of are reach as well.

[Will0W783]

Read and weep rough-scale python lovers, i have three of these babies and you forieners will probally never see one. Not even at the zoo.

That's kind of a bit harsh and rude, don't you think?

[=Carinata=]

Yeah i herd they where banning snakes in america. Im going to watch snake bytes see if he has any lavander abino retics.

[shaunyboy]

That's kind of a bit harsh and rude, don't you think?


that aside willow the aussie government is in talks as to releasing some rough scaled pythons out to zoo's across the world.this is due to how successfull they have been with captive breeding programes.they are now pretty easy to get hold of in australia.

and we have the german breeders who seem to magically manage to get hold of aussie stuff somehow ;)

i predict rough scaled pythons will be outside australia 5 to 10 years from now.

also one last thing,it will be 100% harder to get stuff legally into australia than it is to get stuff legally out of the place.

cheers shaun

[Will0W783]

They are beautiful snakes. I love all Morelia.

[shaunyboy]

after much digging around and a bit of luck i have found out there are rough scaled pythons in the usa.

Terry Phillip has bred them.they are owned by reptile gardens.

this is all i know but maybe you can find out where reptile gardens is in the states willow.

its actually got me a tad excited as if they're in the states then sooner or later american breeders will have them.this means we can get them exported over to the uk.
cheers shaun

[Nafun]

A google search puts "Reptile Gardens" as being in south dakota. Checked out their page, looks like they mostly have hots, no mention of rough scaled pythons. However, one of their curators of reptiles is Terry Phillip.

So if anyone is in South Dakota, you have my condolences, but could you check out Reptile Gardens? =)

[shaunyboy]

A google search puts "Reptile Gardens" as being in south dakota. Checked out their page, looks like they mostly have hots, no mention of rough scaled pythons. However, one of their curators of reptiles is Terry Phillip.

So if anyone is in South Dakota, you have my condolences, but could you check out Reptile Gardens? =)


thanks for that mate.it brings me one step closer to finding out if ive been informed correctly.
cheers shaun

[percey39]

As you said shaun, these will be readily available for you guys soon enough. I find it rather funny that it always starts in germany though. Our governent is supposedly still looking into exporting some, whether or not they actually will is another story.
With the amount of exoctics available here now, it tells me that it must rather easy to import and expot illegally.

[shaunyboy]

As you said shaun, these will be readily available for you guys soon enough. I find it rather funny that it always starts in germany though. Our governent is supposedly still looking into exporting some, whether or not they actually will is another story.
With the amount of exoctics available here now, it tells me that it must rather easy to import and expot illegally.[/quote]


to be honest mate my post on import export was me trying to wind the guy that started the thread up (i'm sorry).i just felt he was a tad out of order the way he put his post across.i'm old enough now to know better.:hmm:

i e mailed Terry Phillip at reptile garden,so hopefully he will be able to shed some light on whether ive been informed correctly.

re Germany,ive had those very same thoughts for a long time now mate.as ive said before i'm not complaining as it gives the rest of europe access to all the decent aussie stuff.so come on the germany " where are all the roughies " ?????

cheers shaun

[Nafun]

The aussies are worse about their native wildlife than china is about pandas.
Maybe they fear the tourism loss?

Come to Australia - We have nothing to offer but weird animals, most of which can kill you!

[shaunyboy]

CARINATA,you should not have been so smug in your statment,Terry Phillips in the usa got a founding breeding pair of rough scaled pythons LEGALLY FROM THE AUSSIE GOVERNMENT IN 2004.they also gave a pair to Sweden.terry has successfully bred his roughies.there are also a few illegally purchased roughies in europe.so my friend maybe next time you will think before you make rash and smug statments to people who have been nothing but polite,helpfull and mannerable towards you every time you've been on here.

you may be asking what proof i have of this.well Terry Phillips was kind enough to e mail me back when i enquired about his rough scaled project.he is a very respected herpetolgist in the states.he is also the head reptile keeper at a big public facility.

so it looks like we will all be able to have access to roughies very soon.

hope your reading this percy mate as you were correct in telling me your government had made plans to export some roughies.i really cannot wait to work with them.they are a fantastic species.

i would like to apologise to forum members for my smug post but imo it was warranted under the circumstances of the original post.

cheers shaun

[Lankyrob]

I dunno shaun - talking to a banned member again!!

[marvelfreak]

I took the original post as just joking around and having fun. She even said show me what you got and make me jealous. Any way I wonder why she got banned? Now i know why she never posted pics of her other snakes. Oh well.

[Freebody]

i wondered why she made no more post after your research to prove their is hope for us yet :P

[shaunyboy]

I dunno shaun - talking to a banned member again!!


im sitting here laughing my head off rob.once again ive put my foot in it :wacky:.

i just cant seem to keep up with all these folk getting banned.cheers for the heads up (again) my friend,i'll have to try harder to keep up with things mate.
cheers shaun:yes:

[shaunyboy]

i seen him get banned from another snake forum for coming out with some crazy stuff.he's a bit nuts with his husbandry as well he was telling me one time that he feeds multipule snakes in the same tank.which is nothing short of madness.i didnt realise he'd got banned off here as well marvelfreak.ive got a bad habit of that though.thankfully my big mate rob keeps me right.:yes:
cheers shaun

[shaunyboy]

i wondered why she made no more post after your research to prove their is hope for us yet :P


terrys in the proccess of finding out what he is allowed to do with the hatchlings he produced.he has to consult the australian government for guide lines.it is a real hope for the rest of us who want to work with these gorgeous pythons.
cheers shaun

[Will0W783]

Huh, well I guess he got what was coming, running his mouth with such smug, nasty comments like "You will never have this". Jerk.

[Aaron_S]

Doesn't really matter if we did or did not have rough scale pythons. Any Aussie would have to be jealous of our corn snakes. Can't import anything down under any ways. My ball pythons are just as rare to them.

[Nafun]

Know what pisses me off? 5 years ago, I passed within 10 miles of reptile gardens. Twice.
I spent 3 days destressing in a hotel room (I have severe anxiety problems) less than 10 miles from reptile gardens.

[percey39]

Yeah i had heard that they were over there, I wasnt too sure of it though as i had never seen pics. I had a friend a long time ago who had a snow corn i think it was. They do look good but i would prefer some vipers, cobras or af rocks, anaconda's or the like. Im very jealous of all you guys.

[infernalis]

. Im very jealous of all you guys.


In a way, I am jealous of you. Warm weather, the outback, a beautiful capitol city.. clean oceans.

I'll trade.

[percey39]

Haha our weather aint always that great. I was just working in the middle of australia, the weather was 29 degrees celcius during the day and -2 or 3 at night. Melbourne is by the best of our cities just a shame about the cold weather.
I loved L.A when i was there many moons ago, i really like venice beach ( or maybe just the girls on rollerblades lol ) If i could get gauranteed work, i would move over there in a heartbeat.

[infernalis]

I know, "The grass is always greener in someone else's garden"

[shaunyboy]

In a way, I am jealous of you. Warm weather, the outback, a beautiful capitol city.. clean oceans.

I'll trade.


all my grass died due to crappy weather and im jealous of all of you.as your bound to be all sick of hearing,haha:yes:

[shaunyboy]

Doesn't really matter if we did or did not have rough scale pythons. Any Aussie would have to be jealous of our corn snakes. Can't import anything down under any ways. My ball pythons are just as rare to them.


it mattered to me mate,rough scaled were only discovered by the aussie's back around 1982.more and more is being learned about them every day.for me it would be pretty amazing to get to work with a snake that so little is known about.that and its totally nice looking snake.

i hear what your saying about the aussies having a lot to be jealous about.roughies have been a dream of mine for a while now.the fact they're out of australia will give the rest of the world a chance with these beautys mate.

percey mate,you never know your government might lighten up and grant licenses for decent keepers like yourself to import some of the stuff you dream about.even if it was a case of having them and any offspring chipped with some kind of tracking/identification type thing.
cheers shaun

[emseeKAY]

LOL! although i loved Florida while i was there, and id love to visit california, arizona, and a few other states as well as the UK and Australia (and New Zealand) i don't think i'd want to leave Canada, maybe its just ive never left the country for over a month but still... lol

[percey39]

I can only hope shaun, i would love to be able to work with some absolute monsters.
Roughies are great snakes, i personally havent owned any but im looking at pair this coming season. A friend of mine keeps them and said they are very easy husbandry wise, and feed like champs from young.

[shaunyboy]

I can only hope shaun, i would love to be able to work with some absolute monsters.
Roughies are great snakes, i personally havent owned any but im looking at pair this coming season. A friend of mine keeps them and said they are very easy husbandry wise, and feed like champs from young.


thats exactley how i'd describe bredl's to work with.imo wierd that at a glance they look so similar to each other.id recomend bredl's for the same reason your mate recomended the roughies.im trying to get hold of some hypo bredl's at the minute.for a future diamond/bredl/jaguar project.its been done so much with normal bredl i fancy seeing how it would turn out using hypo's.if you could get anything what would you get retic's im thinking ?
cheers shaun

[percey39]

Yes funny you should say that as my friend compared them to a bredli also, just that the roughies have a lot bigger teeth haha. Some of the hypo bredli that are gettin around now look insane. The bredli over a jag could produce something quite special, it would be unreal if the bright orange/red of a hypo bredli had a major influence.
Hmm tough question shuan, if i can pick a venomous as well a python i would go with a gaboon viper ( i am absolutely head over heals for them ) and a african rock python ( love the head shape and purely their size ). With both these i would want pure lines as i dont believe you can really enhance either of these guys, but thats just my opinion. There are many more, but i will stick to only 2 as so i dont bore everyone.

[shaunyboy]

i'm the same with female diamonds mate.imo nothing but a pure male diamond should be bred to one.a friend of mine has a very nice diamond/bredl/jaguar bred by a guy milkelson in europe.i'll get his name for you tommorrow.one of the nicest carpets ive seen.have you seen the jagpondro's that were produced in the states.jaguar carpet x chondro they were amazing.ive watched documentry about gaboons gorgeous head shape.re teeth i think whatever adult morelia tags you ends roughly in the same result a lot of yelping and screaming for the wife to come help you get them off (feeding response hits).
cheers shaun

[percey39]

I would like to see the diamond/bredli/jag, it could be very interesting. Yeah jagpondro's are not my cup of tea, but are definetely easy on the eye. I myself am more of a purist/locale specific man, but i do appreciate some of the hybrids and the work put into them. I did see a interesting cross of a gaboon and i believe a puff adder, was great colours but to me a gaboon is untouchable haha.
Here is a pic of their teeth, this is not my picture nor do i claim any rights to it. I would not like to feel an adults grasp on me lol.

[shaunyboy]

thats way longer than any carpets ive ever seen.in fact a carpets dont come close,they are huge ....!!!

i would not fancy a feeding response from them.that would leave some mess.i would certainly give them teeth the respect they warrant mate.

cheers shaun

[marvelfreak]

OUCH ! That would surely hurt like heck.

[percey39]

Oops made a mistake earlier it was a gaboon cross rhino viper that i saw.

The teeth are pretty bloody big for a young snake, they resemble a handful of needles to me. I would imagine you would have to not jerk at all when bitten as the teeth being as long as they are would break if you pulled away.

[Will0W783]

Man, those look like Emerald teeth! Yikes!

[shaunyboy]

Man, those look like Emerald teeth! Yikes!

kimberly i was really impressed with those teeth.like percey said pretty big teeth for such a young snake.i really need to see an emeralds teeth in the flesh (pardon the pun):rolleyes:

cheers shaun

[Will0W783]

Next time my big 6-foot girl yawns I'll try to snap a picture. I thank God she's such a doll, because her teeth are like half an inch long. *pales*

[infernalis]

wow! such a long running thread for a banned person.

[emseeKAY]

lol it seems as if this ones been hijacked a few times to be fair lol

[shaunyboy]

its cool folks its not like the guy that started its going to say anything :yes:

[emseeKAY]

LMAO you have a point

[marvelfreak]

wow! such a long running thread for a banned person.
Like a dead artist. Always more popular when their not around. lol

[Will0W783]

Like a dead artist. Always more popular when their not around.

ROTL, Chuck!

[infernalis]

ROTL, Chuck!

Rolling On Table Laughing??

[Will0W783]

I meant "ROTFL"....typo.

[Man_vs_Wild]

Dont be mad at this guy. He probably bi polar or somthing. Besides you have nothing to be jealous of. Rough scales are extreemly docile. And when i say docile i mean they dont move. at all. Dont worry about the one brian held on snakebytes. They simple dont bite. And yes you can feed them in the same enclosure under supervision of course and provided they are extremly hungry. Common sense should be exercised.
If your going be jealous... check out my newest snake.
And a blue water water python for good measure.

rough scale python are not great to handle. In fact they stay very still because they dont want to be handle. They think they are camoflaged. Dont get me wrong they are cool pets. Wild ones are interesting but once they enter captivity 'they simply do not do anything'. Unlike morelia splitoa who are great to handle. Take a picture.

[Man_vs_Wild]

I have a rough scaled python. They are not a very interesting snakes to keep. They stay very still. The one on snake bytes was a psyco. probably wild. they dont bite and are extremly docile. painfully docile. Sometimes when i open my rough scale rack i have to pick him up to check for signs of life. If you didn't know better you would swear they have brain damage.
I have three of them they are lovly pets.

[emseeKAY]

lol you should post some pictures of your guys ;) we like pictures haha

[Man_vs_Wild]

All roughies look the same. Mine look very similar to they guy who got banned. It could even be them but i not sure why he would have my snakes.

[Freebody]

i really like the color of them, i would like to get one as soon as they are selling in canada, not moving around while being handled would be a nice change from my retic, she dont really do much in her cage but when she gets out its happy hour! wont stop for a second,but she spends most of her time slithering around me as i stand and hold her,because it makes it easier than her tangling herself in stuff and getting places real hard to get her out of.

[Man_vs_Wild]

sounds like a real handfull. Amazing critters.:elvis:

[citysnakes]

could Man_vs_Wild actually be the banned member formerly known as =Carinata=.....? i wonder...

[Will0W783]

Don't know. He isn't acting like a douche though, so I doubt it. =Carinata= was a real tool.

[Man_vs_Wild]

i really like the color of them, i would like to get one as soon as they are selling in canada, not moving around while being handled would be a nice change from my retic, she dont really do much in her cage but when she gets out its happy hour! wont stop for a second,but she spends most of her time slithering around me as i stand and hold her,because it makes it easier than her tangling herself in stuff and getting places real hard to get her out of.

The first rough scale python made available to the public here in australia sold for 28k au. So you might want to get a piggy bank ready.:)

[Freebody]

The first rough scale python made available to the public here in australia sold for 28k au. So you might want to get a piggy bank ready.:)
ouch lol need more than a piggy bank for that kinda coin :P

[percey39]

Rough scales would be rather cheap over in the states and europe in a couple of seasons. As they breed readily in captivity so as long as the ones they already have are of age there sould be 1000's of them for sale in 5-6 years.

[percey39]

Also prices are dropping on these guy's here very quickly. I seen some for sale for $800 AUD a pair and i think this season they will be even cheaper.

[shaunyboy]

could Man_vs_Wild actually be the banned member formerly known as =Carinata=.....? i wonder...


at first i thought he was to articulate

but he did'nt confront you on the accusation so now im wondering ?????

oh the joy's of owning snakes.

cheers shaun

[shaye]

I own a young rough scaled python have had it for about 5 days now mines a bit feisty and likes the try eat my hands and arms lol
I got a couple of good pics of mine showing his teeth
The guy who bred him took the pics before I bought him
But yeh once he's out for a bit he settles right down and sits there on my hand/arm
Thanx Shaye
Should be posting pics this arvo I'd I remember lol of roughie when in on my laptop not iPhone

[Man_vs_Wild]

Doesn't really matter if we did or did not have rough scale pythons. Any Aussie would have to be jealous of our corn snakes. Can't import anything down under any ways. My ball pythons are just as rare to them.

Im not jealous of no corn snake, ball pythons are cool but i dont want a corn snake id rather a gater snake than a corn snake. I wouldnt be jealous of rosy boa even.
I just bought a small hypo coastal :)carpet,

[Freebody]

i like corn snakes but i dont think i will ever own one, but their is some Very nice ones around. grats on the hypo coastal. pics?

[Man_vs_Wild]

male and female. I just bought the male. haven't recieved him yet. My female is 2.

[Freebody]

i really like that male your getting, he looks real sharp, that rusted red color is sweet.

[shaye]

Haha we can get corn snakes over here just not legally I have seen them in person and been offered them many times
Redtail boas
Vipers
Ball pythons
Chameleons
Leopard geckos
We can get all that here just not legal
Obviously smuggled in

[Man_vs_Wild]

Yeah i got my roughies illegally, just got em airmailed in a special container. Still in secret quarintine lab hidden deep under ground. Its an old secret service bunker. :) Cant hide nothing from those dam russians. f....rs:mad:
When your country been through as many civil wars as ours has you can just about get your hands on anything.:crazy2: My friend just got a pair of liger cubs.. they are tigers cross with a lion:yes:

[Will0W783]

Oooh, ligers are soo neat. Many states, including PA, you dont' need special permits for most animals. PA is awesome- they don't care if you keep a lion, as long as you're not keeping native endangered species. I would love to get a Caracal lynx some day. Right now I have 3 Bengals (they're the cross between a domestic cat and an Asian leopard cat). They are destructive, but insanely lovable little things and they have so many neat calls. Not one of them meows like a normal cat..lol.

[Man_vs_Wild]

I got chased by a mountain lion in colarado once. Chased me for about 5 miles. I thought it was a crazy cougar.

[Man_vs_Wild]

I was going to make a new video of my roughie smashing a mouse.first one failed, I droped the mouse. The psp went flat and the lighting is bad so dont expect top picture quaility.. also its still winter here so it might be hard with a psp to get a clip. but im a loney pathatic loser and i will get the job done.

[Man_vs_Wild]

No joy i might take some photo's insted to fill that hole and keep this thread moving. my big roughies coming up for a shed and the little ones would eat but not for the camera. they dont like the bright light. roughies dont feed like coastal carpet python. they are abit finicky.

[Man_vs_Wild]

Im gunna break this up into a post for each snake.
New hypo's first kill.

[Man_vs_Wild]

This guy really want a the mouse i was tring to feed the roughies but i said no-way fatso you eat rats now.

[Man_vs_Wild]

here... the first two pics are of the sister roughie of the roughie in the utube clip i spontaniously poke in the head with my index finger.

The third is the tail of the male i poked with my index finger. Notice how the colour of the with changes from grey to white at night.

[Man_vs_Wild]

My water python is a fatty. My jungle is taking a long time to turn yellow so it will stay yellow a long time. The roughies is in slough. poor girl, i shook her up to get that woefull pic.

[Man_vs_Wild]

Scrub python grow so fast. hypo coastal is tiny. my retic name is lucy, shes ok, i guess. thanks for the looking. Keep the views coming. I got the longest thread in town, right here.

[Will0W783]

Very nice snakes, Man vs Wild. I love the albino retic. I am lusting after one of them, but they get too large for my current home, and I can't afford the super dwarf version ($3k+). Nice water python too; how's her temperament? I'd love one of those. I love the faces that the Liasis species have....very streamlined and raptor-ish.

[Freebody]

hey umm...thats "bella" the dwarf retic sitting here in my cage beside me LOL i took that picture in my living room, lol what are you playing at lol Fail.....

[presspirate]

Whats up with this person? Is there a back story that us newbs should know about?

[Freebody]

i think it the guy who started this thread originally, he was kicked off the forum for being an idiot and causing trouble, now im sure this is him again, posting pics of other people snakes and calling them his lol so fail, im starting to think he has no snakes at all and just stirs the pot. sad really, could have at least been smark enouph to use a pic from somone who has not already been posted here owned by members of the forum hes posting on lol how bad is that lol

[Will0W783]

Whoa, he stole your pic? That's a total jerk move- now I'm sorry I told him he has nice snakes. Well Freebody, YOU have a really nice dwarf retic!

[Freebody]

hehe thank you willow :)

[shaunyboy]

Whoa, he stole your pic? That's a total jerk move- now I'm sorry I told him he has nice snakes. Well Freebody, YOU have a really nice dwarf retic!


been trying to tell you folks its caranata you've been talking to akll this time

he's started to slip into his old ways.ive pointed it out on another 2 threads today

i new something was niggling me about the retic picture.

unless im going :wacky::wacky::wacky::wacky::wacky:


check the picture of the jungle in his jungle thread.look familiar ????
cheers shaun

[Freebody]

its even my avatar picture lol

[shaunyboy]

Whats up with this person? Is there a back story that us newbs should know about?


read the thread

YOU WILL NEVER GET THIS

i think were dealing with the same guy

in fact citysnakes was the first to point this out and i backed him up

im sure you'll find it very entertaining mate

ive had a good few chuckles out the guys posts.hillarious at times

cheers shaun

[shaunyboy]

its even my avatar picture lol


THATS AMAZING MATE :shocked::shocked:

sitting here laughing my brains out:yes:

gotta love this dude he's hillarious:wacky::wacky::wacky:

this is better than watching tv:laugh::laugh:

cheers shaun

[Freebody]

THATS AMAZING MATE :shocked::shocked:

sitting here laughing my brains out:yes:

gotta love this dude he's hillarious:wacky::wacky::wacky:

this is better than watching tv:laugh::laugh:

cheers shaun
LOL yup i could not have said it any better myself.

[red ink]

Wow you guys are quite tolerant with this troll.

[Freebody]

Wow you guys are quite tolerant with this troll.
LOL yup i could not have said that better either LOL oh well what can ya do with some people that have no shame, doesnt make sence becoming shameless our selves :)

[shaunyboy]

Wow you guys are quite tolerant with this troll.


i find trolls highly entertaining.

it must be my scottish sense of humor

id miss this dude if he goes.

he's like the forums wee pet troll,our own shrek to be exact ...!!

cheers shaun

[infernalis]

Keep the views coming. I got the longest thread in town, right here.

This one is 3 times longer & has nicer photos..

head-shots (http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/general-discussion/83044-head-shots.html)

[Meg]

lol....photo stealer. It sucks and sometimes trolls can cause real problems. But I can help but laugh a little at some people actions. How do you steal a photo from someone from the forum and repost on the same forum and think you'll be believed? lawl. hilarious.

Freebody... i like your attitude about it though :)

[Freebody]

thx meg :) i found it pretty funny , trolls do make me lauph, i guess i have the same scottish humar shaunyboy has lol you should have seen my face when i first seen the pic, that puzzled look of wait this isnt right expression on my face must have been priceless, i wish i had a picture to see it myself :P

[shaunyboy]

lol....photo stealer. It sucks and sometimes trolls can cause real problems. But I can help but laugh a little at some people actions. How do you steal a photo from someone from the forum and repost on the same forum and think you'll be believed? lawl. hilarious.

Freebody... i like your attitude about it though :)


TROLLS TROLLS TROLLS

JUST GOTTA LOVE EM ..........!!!!!!!!!!!!

:yes::yes::yes:

[infernalis]

Tried to open another account already...