Pastel Ball Python price inquiry

[Nicolak]

I am thinking about purchasing a Pastel Ball Python male 07. He is eating small live rats and is friendly, looks healthy and has never had health problems.

I am new to the reptile business, I live in Hamilton, ON, Canada.
Is $250CAD a good price?

[citysnakes]

if the animal is healthy and you feel that it is worth 250 then buy it.

[Nicolak]

Okay, just making sure. :)

[mykee]

Yup, what Julian said: The animal is worth what you're willing to pay for it (along with a thousand other customers). As breeders, we really don't set the prices for animals, the market (read: customers) do. If our animals are priced too high, they don't sell.

[PythonMan420]

No way man most pastels i have seen are usually $150 dollars... $250 sounds a little pricy

[mykee]

Maybe in Durban....

[jonny666]

No I saw them yesterday at a show for 150$-175$ but I agree it is what you think the animal is worth. I know this is going to get me some responses but I feel that no matter what it is still a 30$ snake. Not big on morphs to each their own.

[Kmef07]

YES!!!!! I finally find someone that agrees. Morphs are the biggest load of **** out there right now. I have seen at shows where people tell someone ya this is a whatever ball python morph and it barely looks any different from a regular but they jack the price up 200 dollars and call it more rare. It's a load of **** to me.

[Will0W783]

Depends on the morph. I can see paying more for a distinctly different-looking morph, like piebald, mojave, leucistic, etc. But the yellow bellies look just like normals to me. The yellow pastels are nice, and do look different; I almost bought one for $125. I would say $250 is high for a pastel, unless it's a proven breeder. I went to Hamburg yesterday and saw spiders going for $250-350. They are my favorite morph, but I am still waiting a bit to see if the price comes down more with the bad economy before I get one. IMO, wait a bit and find a cheaper pastel, unless you just have to have this one.

[jonny666]

Wow! I thought I was the only one in thinking that. It's nice to know someone else does. I was on another forum guy posted five pictures of supposed Ball morphs and I could not tell the diff.

[Kmef07]

Ya I like some boa morphs like the sunglows and stuff and salmons but they actually look different and albinos and stuff and piebalds like willow said but for the super this and double this its just stupid i think.

[Will0W783]

Depends- the super cinny balls are solid gray-brown, while regular cinnys just look like dark brown normals.

[Aaron_S]

It's funny you mention sunglows Kyle. That's just a hypo albino. Basically in my eyes just a brighter albino. Looks pretty much the same ;)

For ball pythons, there's only a small handful that look like normals.

[citysnakes]

in some morphs you dont pay for the looks, you pay for the genes. why can breeders charge more for a yellow belly morph even though to the untrained eye it looks very similar to a normal ball? because of the potential it has when bred to another yellow belly or other morphs.

if you feel a ball is a ball and is only worth 30 bucks then dont get one. the attitude of value placed on an animal based on what it is "worth" is disgusting and if you have that attitude you shouldnt own animals.

just my 0.2...



No way man most pastels i have seen are usually $150 dollars... $250 sounds a little pricy

an average looking pastel for 250 may be pricey but an exceptional looking one would get that from me anyday.

[mykee]

If you truly appreciate the genetics of your ball pythons, only being concerned with what some animals look like, is shallow and lacks any foresight and/or patience. It's what's inside that counts. Not everything gives you that immediate satisfaction, some things require time (god forbid!).

[jonny666]

Everyone has their own opinion. That is why I said to each their own. If you like morphs and you feel the price is right fine. I just do not like morphs. I like the snakes the way they are. I'm sorry if I offended anyone, but I do care about my snakes and take good care. Right heat, humidity, etc. I come to the forum for advice/questions and such. That is what a forum is to give your thoughts and ideas wther they are right or wrong still your own opinion. I have/had Ball Pythons and like them just the way they are. I see the beauty in nature not what can be made or bred.

[Will0W783]

I agree with Julian and Mykee. I would love to get a pair of Mojaves and try to make blue-eyed leucstics (sooo beautiful). I agree that some of the morphs are crazy expensive, but the genetics are interesting and complicated.

[Kmef07]

I must revise my opinion and i do like some of the morphs like the pied and leucstics because they are really different, but for the most part having one of the other morphs over the normal doesn't really do anything for me and why pay more when you dont' have to. I'd rather have a normal and make an awesome enclosure and put money into that then have a yellow belly so to say. and I do like immediate gratification so ya i hate waiting.

Im also more of a boa person cuz i like their head shape and that is where my passion in reptiles is in. so maybe that is why i dont really like all of the morphs but i do like the morphs in boas. so i guess im being a little hypocritical but oh well.

[Will0W783]

Lol. Typical male- doesn't want to work, wants instant gratification...tsk, tsk, tsk.

I like boas, but for the most part, I prefer python head shapes- I like the vents. That being said, I think my ETB has one of the coolest faces I've ever seen. It's incredible, and fierce-looking, like a Chinese dragon, but she's such a sweetheart.

[Aaron_S]

Kyle, I love my animals. I think my pinstripe is absolutely awesome looking! She's got the same colours as a normal but just a really reduced pattern. Quite cool in my books. But to each their own.

Jonny, it's funny you mention you like what nature gives us. You do realize most morphs all were first plucked out of nature right?