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[David&Pets]

Heyyy guys whats up im new to the forums =), my name is David.

I Have a Baby Aru Green Tree Python, A baby veiled chameleon, annnnnnd a beautiful blue red/orange bearded dragon.

I have some questions about my aru, i just got him today actually in the mail from LLLReptiles.com

he seems on the skinny side, but than again hes a baby, i dunno how babies are supposed to look... =\ He seems skinny not fat/chubby and has loose skin, my guess dehydration from the trip...

Any Hints/Tips or anything would be helpful im a little worried about him, although he is basking on his Perch in the heat. Plzz msg me back ty.

[Chu'Wuti]

Hey, David--I hope your baby is doing better. I hope you knew that your post would take a few days after your registration to get up on the forum?

Anyway--your baby may have become dehydrated from the stress of the trip. Offer plenty of water. Let him settle in for several days, then try feeding him. What did LLLReptiles tell you about feeding & husbandry?

Also, the baby may be close to shedding; if that's the case, you may have to wait until after he's shed to feed him.

How's he doing at this point?

[David&Pets]

Hey hes doing, ok somehow...its all in the same day its still my 1st day with him, its been afew hours i got him at like 9 am, its now 3:39 cali time. He seems curious i offer alot of water spraying cage, bowl at bottom, and driped a little luke warm water on him...i hope he will be ok, i called at they mentioned the dehydration aswell.

Under the notes for their babies they mentioned well started off babies feeding weekly, BUT they dont really gaurantee that...so if not ile have 2 somehow get him to take pinkies. I cannot tell shed signs for him, since its my 1st GTP...and his exotic colors haha but hes gorgeous just, some loose skin, a little skinny and small hes a Baby for sure.

[David&Pets]

Pics of My snake For whoever can help me

http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww79/varendan12/IMG_2444.jpg

http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww79/varendan12/IMG_2434-1.jpg

[Kmef07]

im no expert on gtp's but i think it might be a little dehydrated the skin is really baggy or the snake is just really close to shed but if it is just dehydrated when it eats it will fill out quick. if it is close to shed it should shed soon like within a week. and it's skin will tighten up. do the scales raise up? on my bp i had the back of it's scales raised up when it was wrinkley and was about to shed.

[citysnakes]

im going to guess that he is not captive bred. if you want that little guy to live youre going to have to make a few changes. i know lots of people may not like it but youre going to have to move him into a tub. this is a neonate GTP you are dealing with here and they are very sensitive. the tub may not look nice but do it for the animal until he is older and established. these guys need a moderate humidity and dehydate pretty quickly if you cant provide that for them so the tub will solve any humidity issues you have. also dont handle that guy for at least another year.

theres a bunch more you need to do but why dont you give us more info and then we can go from there.

[David&Pets]

Hey He is CB--captive bred, i recieved him in this dehydrated condition cannot tell if the orange around his eye is sign of a shed or his loose skin is dehydration/shed. But the tank isnt too big 12x12x18 and i filled it with grapewood Jungle Vine, Jungle plants and popping in a pothos plant in other corner, so the tank isnt "spacious" for him to feel insecure...i thought about the tub idea but the tank is on the smaller end and is filled up nicely to make it seem smaller to him... Any other info or advice would be great...

1 big question i just recieved him yesterday 2mro will be my 2nd day having him, the Company told me to soak him...but i just recieved him and i think its too early to soak him or feed him...so right now im misting and keeping the humidity lvl's up to help him. He's getting more active and changing perches,

ANy other info/help would be excellent thank you.

[Aaron_S]

I agree with Julian that a tub is probably the best.
If you're set on the tank then keep misting and keeping the humidity up. Keep your hands off as you're doing so far and offer it a small meal a week after you recieved it.

To my knowledge, from what I hear about triple L is that they aren't that good. You can check out the faunaclassifieds website which is the reptile BOI and you can search their name there for any info regarding the company.

[David&Pets]

Is he big enough to eat a pinky mouse hes about the width of a pencil or a little less, i'm worried i cannot get a pinky thats small enough for him =\ and if neccessary ile move him into a smaller tub or a cage but i do know im keeping up on humidity rather well.

[Chu'Wuti]

Hi, David! Now that I've seen the pics, I don't believe he's close to shedding but is definitely dehydrated. You can increase your humidity more by placing a bowl of water on top of a UTH (under tank heater), and it might entice your little guy to go soak himself.

I found this link to what appears to be a pretty good source of info for GTPs.

I also found the link for LLLReptiles' ad for the Arus. They were claiming these are 16-18" and I'm remembering--maybe misremembering--that you think he's about 14"?

These guys aren't supposed to get fat like a BP. He should be able to take a pinky no problem, maybe even a fuzzy. But from what I'm reading, you don't want to go more than your snake's diameter on his food.

Hang in there!

Green Tree Python Care Sheet (http://www.sprucenubblefarm.com/animals/greentreepythoncaresheet.php)

If that link doesn't work, copy & paste and cut it back to the slash after .com, then go from their homepage.

[David&Pets]

hey sandy thank you, He prolly is around 15-16 inches he just seems very small and thin and im like omg, i just purchased a repty Fogger its keeping the humidity lvl around 65% atm which i believe is pretty good, would the repti fogger and the humidity lvl, and me sparying the cage now and again fix his dehydration problem?

[citysnakes]

would the repti fogger and the humidity lvl, and me sparying the cage now and again fix his dehydration problem?

it might but if you were to put him into a tub with parallel perches and a heat source over one end of those perches then you can easily provide exactly what this species needs.

he looks to be in rough shape and these guys are delicate. youre going to have to sacrafice the naturalistic setup for a while and simply provide the basic needs of this species if you are serious about successfully turning his health around.

also you dont want to soak a neonate GTP because you dont want to risk drowning them and the fact that you shouldnt handle them for at least the first year of their lives because they are so delicate.

[Chu'Wuti]

You know, David--I'm all about a naturalistic vivarium--you can ask these guys. I have my BP in one. BUT--if he had come to me looking like he was in bad shape, I would put him in a tub if these guys said to do it. You don't have to give up the vivarium forever, just for a few months probably. When he improves & is eating well, THEN you can try the vivarium.

I asked these guys to come take a look at things because they are really experienced and I do believe they generally know what they are talking about.

Better safe than sorry, especially when the snake is looking poorly.

[David&Pets]

Where can i get 1 of these tubs? and how would i set up perches...im new to the whole tub thing...ile do it if itl help him i just need somone to direct me i know about the bowl/heating pad but nothing else..=\

[David&Pets]

Itd be cool if i could get a good link or size of tub i should get, and or jsut info about the tub...never done a tub thing before so im like omg cause i dont want my baby to die... and im super pissed he was given to me in this condition IM reallllly upset and pissed about the condition its in...they said it happend over shipping, it wasn't like that in the store... so im really miffed about this, if anyone has good links and advice for setting and constructing the cage... plz let me know =\ ty

[citysnakes]

check out this forum:

Morelia Viridis Forum - chondro - Morelia Viridis - Message Board - Yuku (http://moreliaviridis.yuku.com/forum/view/id/63)

[David&Pets]

Here are some pics of a Rubbermaid tub i have, let me know what u guys think.

http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww79/varendan12/IMG_2445.jpg

http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww79/varendan12/IMG_2446.jpg

http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww79/varendan12/IMG_2449.jpg

http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww79/varendan12/IMG_2452.jpg

[David&Pets]

Here Are some Pics of the Rubbermaid tub that i have, please comment, and give other advice for how to set up/place purches and if the tub is ok. Thank you guys so so much

http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww79/varendan12/IMG_2445.jpg

http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww79/varendan12/IMG_2446.jpg

http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww79/varendan12/IMG_2449.jpg

http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww79/varendan12/IMG_2452.jpg

[David&Pets]

ty for the link Julian =)

[Wolfus_305]

Let us know when your snake gets better!
Nice bright yellow!
Best wishes.
Kenny

[David&Pets]

Is that tub suitable for him??

[Chu'Wuti]

David, I haven't done tubs myself. I think it would do for at least a temporary enclosure, but a deeper one would be better--can you find one about 24" deep?

You want to put some holes in the top (airholes). I've done this with an ice pick or nut pick heated in a flame (just the tip) and then punch through several times, reheat, punch some more. I know others have used a fine tip soldering iron to do the same, and others who've just used a small drill bit & drilled the holes. Whatever you have around that will work is probably fine. You want multiple small holes. You can put paper toweling in for substrate, water bowl, and you'll need heat.

I'm not sure how to install the hanging perches, though, and a GTP really needs them.

A couple of other websites with info:

Green Tree Pythons | Snake Tips, How To's and Snake Videos | Boatips.com (http://www.boatips.com/greentreepythons/)

Green Tree Python (Morelia viridis) Care (http://www.reptilechannel.com/snakes/snake-care/green-tree-python-husbandry.aspx)

The second one looked like it might have some good info.

Good luck--and keep us posted on how that little guy is doing!!

[David&Pets]

Hey Guys so i just wanted to say i contacted LLLReptiles and they worked super well with me, they helped me and gave me even more advice to help, unfortunatly the advice didn't help and i didn't want the baby to die, so i drove 4 hours to the superstore to give the baby back to the company, they replaced me with a GTP 4 months old, a red =) whos Cb, Feeding weekly and super duper beautiful and healthy. Thank you guys for everything and helping me with your advice, i followed everyones to try and help the little guy. If u want ile show a new pic for you guys to see the new 1.

Thanks again everyone who took the time to help me try and bring that baby back to good health. Thank you everyone

Sincerely David

[Chu'Wuti]

I hope they can save the baby--I sure do respect your decision on that one, and hopefully they have enough experience and concern to do whatever is needed to keep the baby alive.

So you got a red-phase juvie? Post a photo--I'd love to see her/him!

[siz]

I wanna see the red!! :D:D
I'm a sucker for a red-phase GTP youngster..sometimes I wished they kept that colour to adulthood.

[Chu'Wuti]

Hey, David, you still out there? How's the new baby doing? We'd love to see a photo!

[David&Pets]

Hey yea im Here sorry ive been crazy busy with My fire training,and class's ile post a few tonight i LOVE HIM =). He hasn't nipped at me once, hes already fed for me, and he comes out of the cage onto my hand like 1-2 times a week on his own explores a little for 2-3 mins and scents me than i put him back to not stress him out. But its sooo cool, i leave the cage door open and my hand relaxing in front of the doorway and he just slithers onto my hand and perches and goes up my arm ect. And when feeding came i rubbed him and he went right onto my hand, and into the "feeding zone" =)

[Chu'Wuti]

All riiiight! That's wonderful! You must feel so much more relaxed about this one; now you can really enjoy snake-keeping.

Are you training to become a fire fighter? Good luck, and many blessings upon you!