more shedding questions

[MorbidMindset]

ok heres the deal...dremora wont come out of the hide her eyes have been capped for a week but shes not shedding at all. i get a few scales here and there but thats it. since she was oiled with that mite stuff. she wont eat, she wont shed and i dont know whats up! do i need to take it to the vet? can someone give me some advice? i dont want dremora to die but i am not experienced in this and need some advice about it from someone more experienced than i am ..which is just about everyone here except the noobs..lol. thanks:unhappy:

[gonesnakee]

Like I said before ditch the oil & wash as much of the crap off as you can. Very stupid of the vet to suggest to do that. Its not uncommon for snakes infested with mites to not want to eat. Some snakes don't eat in shed & it is common for them to be inactive & hidden when in shed. Not sure what you mean by this exactly i get a few scales here and there but thats it. you are not trying to pull the skin off yourself I hope, leave it too the snake. The snake will shed once its ready to, a shed cycle can sometimes last a couple weeks for pythons. Once the snake has done what it can on its own then you can intravene if required. If the humdity is good it will likely shed in one piece, unless the mite infestation affects that depending on how bad it is. It most likely went into shed to begin with to try & rid itself of the mites, this is how they would do so themselves in the wild. Mark

[MorbidMindset]

no i am not trying to pull the skin off myself. its just a few scales here and there like fuzzies on it. i got the tank up to 80 and its fine now. i also put a mouse in the tank today and dremora snatched it up after a few min. i watched to make sure the mouse wouldnt hurt dremora while it was in the tank. my friend from the unv is not in town at this moment and i just got your message today so i cannot wash dremora off from the oil stuff because it just ate that mouse and is digesting it. is it true as long as the snake eats well then its not sick? since the mite oil was put on the snake..no more mites that we can see either but i do see scales starting to stick up in places like it wants to shed but isnt! and you can rant all you want but I HAVE BEEN reading up on husbandry of the snake! i just been having problems...that is why i joined the forum in the first place to ask quesitons and get answers from you all that know more about it then i do!! i am doign everything in my power to keep this snake healthy! its gonna be my snake soon cause my son dont do squat even tho hes the one that bought the snake! i didnt have a say in that so no chance to have him read up on it first..he just bought it and brought it home and expected to know what to do and I AM THE ONE who got the manual and read it and the hide and asking mostly all the questions!! so please..help dont yell! thanks:sad:

[mykee]

There's a MANUAL for ball pythons!!! Dammit that would have been SO convenient when I first started out.

[MorbidMindset]

oh ok...lets be sarcastic now..thats really mature and it really helps me out! thanks:unibrow:

[gonesnakee]

No ones yelling but you, see any capital letters in my post here other than the begginings of sentences ;) Eatings a good sign yes. The rasied up scales could be mites under there (live or dead). 80 is still not a hot spot of 90. Despite being told not to feed it you did anyway. The snake doesn't have proper heat required for digestion without a hotspot, plus its in sehd & it has mites. 3 good reasons to have not fed it LIVE PREY (thats a yell ;)) If the snake grabbed the mouse wrong & the mouse started biting the crap outta it, you watching would not make any difference ;). I realize your son brought it home, but when folks offer advice, it is ignored & more health issues start popping up as a result of not following proper husbandry as it is suggested still it gets to the point where why bother helping? Or "ranting" as you call it. The fact is your son brought home a pet without knowing how to care for it & now that you are learning advice is being ignored or excused as no $ now. Pets require basics & these basics cost $. They are not being net here. Anyhow you say you have the book. Thats all you need to do is read it & follow simple instructions. Enough said, good luck. Mark

[MorbidMindset]

ok, this is morbid... sorry about my mother... she apparently has a twisted view on peoples expressions (even when she's actually looking at them and not a screen) sorry about the ignorance, and i "have" actually" been studying the manual... even if my mother doesn't take notice, thank you for the tips, ill make sure to "rant" at my mother for biting your heads off over your comment's and tips. and i do have an appointment with the vet, tomorrow actually. i'll make an attempt to keep an eye on my moms activities, and see what i can do to try and make dremora more comfortable, and in better living conditions. i thank you again. and again, sorry about the confusion.
MorbidMindset.

[mykee]

Hmmm, seems like your bad punctuation and your "mothers" bad punctuation are identical. Have neither of you ever heard of capitalizing the first word of a new sentence? Just a thought......
Keep us posted on the health of your ball python.

[x_gilmore_x]

soak th snanke in a warm bath for 30 mins or as long as it takes for it to shed when it happend to me i kept sliding my hand on the snake lightly until all the skin came off then it she was fine but wierdly she shed again in 3 weeks and it came off fine without my help

[gonesnakee]

As for baths. NEVER give a snake a WARM bath or a LUKE WARM bath. A bath of 80-85F is fine & is slightly COOL to the touch NOT warm ;) Being a human anything warm to us (we are 98.6F folks) is TOO hot for your snake & you can put it at risk of thermal shock. Big pet peeve of mine & I DO know many folks that have killed their snakes by giving them a "warm" bath. Know the exact temp of the water or make sure it is slightly cool to the touch, anything not slightly cool to the touch is too warm ;) Mark

[MorbidMindset]

thanks gonesnake. i use a thermometer and i knew that 85 degrees was the coolside for a snake so i just assumed..guess i assumed correctly. thanks