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KatRice2421
11-04-07, 08:42 PM
Can Red tail Boa and Ball Python live together in the some cage if they are the same sizes? Why do Red tail boas have to have rats and not mices?
Thanks Alot
Tanya:)

PDXErik
11-04-07, 09:42 PM
Balls plus Boas? No. Not advisable to house two boas together. If the enclosure is HUGE, I've heard it's possible, but with even a small chance of two dead snakes, is it worth it?

Boas eat mice when they're small. Balls eat rats when they're big enough. It's just a matter of appropriate size of prey to predator.

TailsW/Scales
11-04-07, 10:14 PM
Read the thread that's titled "Can They Live Together" and you'll find all the information you need.



:no:

ffollett
11-05-07, 12:37 AM
It is best to start boas off on rats because that is what they will eat most of their lives. We also start ball pythons off on rats since at some point mice will become to small for them and when all is said and done rats are better for a snake then mice.

As for the housing two of them together that would be a no. I actually have pics of a boa that ate a ball python larger then itself and then regurged it.

gonesnakee
11-05-07, 03:59 PM
Heres the link for you to go read why not http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/general-discussion/80467-can-they-live-together.html Save me typing out a bucnh of stuff. This is what is being suggested above as reading. So the answer is NO. As far as a Boa eating mice its fine except when its 8 feet long & needs 20 of them at a time compared to a rat or 2 or a rabbit. Adult Boas require large meals & a few mice just won't cut it. It is far cheaper to feed one a rat or 2 or a rabbit than dozens of mice, not to mention much easier as well & probably healthier in the long run too. I say healthier because the fat content of 1 or 2 rats or 1 rabbit is likely far less than the amount in a couple mice. Mark

RIBBIT
11-05-07, 06:54 PM
heres a question can you house balls and bloods lol

ffollett
11-05-07, 07:24 PM
heres a question can you house balls and bloods lol

Only during breeding season if you are trying to make super balls.

the fat content of 1 or 2 rats or 1 rabbit is likely far less than the amount in a couple mice.

Believe it or not mice and rats have about the same fat content. Here is a link to a file I posted on another forum that shows the nutrient value of prey items.

NUTRIENT COMPOSITION (http://www.myreptileplanet.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3&d=1192332985)

RIBBIT
11-05-07, 07:27 PM
[quote=ffollett;538080]Only during breeding season if you are trying to make super balls.



sarcasm but ok i forgot about the super duper balls those are nice orange and red

ffollett
11-05-07, 07:35 PM
LOL I got the sarcasm but I am sure there would be others out there going Well can you? Why didn't anyone answer. Maybe I can just get one big cage for my blood, ball, retic and burm to live in. No one said you couldn't do that.

TailsW/Scales
11-05-07, 08:26 PM
LOL I got the sarcasm but I am sure there would be others out there going Well can you? Why didn't anyone answer. Maybe I can just get one big cage for my blood, ball, retic and burm to live in. No one said you couldn't do that.

So that's what I've been doing wrong all these years!!!! I haven't been combining my entire collection together!!! :rolleyes: :D

KatRice2421
11-05-07, 10:24 PM
Thank You All for the Help!:)
Tanya

KatRice2421
11-05-07, 10:25 PM
Thank You All for the Help!:)
Tanya

RIBBIT
11-06-07, 06:47 AM
So that's what I've been doing wrong all these years!!!! I haven't been combining my entire collection together!!! :rolleyes: :D
lol ya when I get sand boas i should put them in with my balls then right lol

ffollett
11-06-07, 08:16 AM
So that's what I've been doing wrong all these years!!!! I haven't been combining my entire collection together!!! :rolleyes: :D

I was thinking about just turning the snake room into one large cage that way I can really have a mix of species. Hell I will even throw the snapper and sulcata in there for good measure.

BlueClover
11-06-07, 08:38 AM
I was thinking about just turning the snake room into one large cage that way I can really have a mix of species. Hell I will even throw the snapper and sulcata in there for good measure.

I'm sure your snapper would LOVE that! :P

gonesnakee
11-06-07, 01:18 PM
I was thinking about just turning the snake room into one large cage that way I can really have a mix of species. You would not beleive how many people ask me if thats how it actually is in my snake room. Some folks come over here & expect to see loose snakes crawling all over the house :rolleyes: LOL Mark

RIBBIT
11-06-07, 05:32 PM
You would not beleive how many people ask me if thats how it actually is in my snake room. Some folks come over here & expect to see loose snakes crawling all over the house :rolleyes: LOL Mark its amazing how stup... I mean unknowledgeably people are

Boots Hawks
11-06-07, 07:56 PM
OK, so I have never bred a snake, heck I wont even kiss it. But jokes aside, I read somewhere that some who breed them keep them together year round. Unless the male seems like he is tired of the old hag and they give him a break for a week or two. I have even heard of a substantially larger boa being placed with a smaller male for breeding and never having a problem. I also know of a reptile shop that keeps 3 to 4 fairly large boas together. I too would never try a python and boa.
If you did have two the same size who do you think would win in a fight? 5 foot boa vs 5 foot python.

RIBBIT
11-07-07, 06:53 AM
personally i think a boa. its not too bad to house same species together just not different ones>