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reptilenut4sure
07-08-07, 02:41 PM
I was wondering what is the best subtrate to use for snakes. Ive been reading around on the internet and read books. And the only clear answer I get is using newspaper for subtrate. Is there any other kind of subtrate that works good and cant hurt the animals? Ive used pine shavings, aspen, the eco earth compressed bricks of coconut. I know that cedar will kill the snakes. But heard of all the other ones giving or can give the snakes mouth rot when they eat in the cages. I will just put the list of animals I have and you can let me know what ones you think would be best for them. All of these are tame and I can handle all of them except the Tree boa. :)
Ball Python
Red Tail Boa Baby
Red Tail Boa Sub Adult
Yuma King Snake Baby
Amazon Tree Boa Sub Adult/Adult
The Snake Guru
07-08-07, 02:48 PM
Pine is another substrate that has been shown to cause upper resitory issues because of the oils and saps that leach out.
I Use Aspen with almost all my snakes now and never have had issues, Others that I use are the Eco-Earth for High Humidity loving species, Repti-Bark, and Sand for the sand boas and dryer snakes.
~B~
ffollett
07-08-07, 03:58 PM
We have used cypress, aspen, news paper, and just recently switched to care fresh.
snakelady13
07-08-07, 07:21 PM
I like cypress best. Your snakes are small enough that when you feed them, you can move them to a "feeding container" I never feed in the same cage they live in unless they are a large snake, like a burm or retic. I found that feeding them in separate containers also cuts down on the snakes thinking they are getting fed every time I put my hand in the cage.
reptilenut4sure
07-08-07, 07:58 PM
Well I feed all of them in a "feeder container" except the Tree boa because he just mean as hell and you cant get with in a foot of him with out getting a wonderful greeding from him. I used the eco earth for him . Thats the only one that im really worried about. I might end up using newspaper in his if I keep on having problems with him. But other than that thanks for the info.
SerpentLust
07-08-07, 09:29 PM
I use Aspen for all my snakes.
Herpkid101x
07-09-07, 10:39 AM
i use aspen too
Reticsrule
07-09-07, 08:51 PM
I used to use Repti-Bark but then tried newspaper and found that I like it much better. Sure it's not the most visually appealing substrate, but it's cheap, readily available, and easy to clean.
ohh_kristina
07-10-07, 04:30 PM
Cypress works best for me. Also, when all else fails, a nice paper towel will do the trick!
SerpentLust
07-11-07, 11:39 AM
Cypress works best for me. Also, when all else fails, a nice paper towel will do the trick!
Paper Towel is my other favourite. Quarantine, Lack of Aspen, etc. Very good substrate and affordable
gonesnakee
07-11-07, 11:59 AM
I use blue shop towels (heavy duty papertowels) for all the small stuff & Aspen or Pine for the large stuff. I know folks who have used pine for decades with zero issues. Papertowels or shop towels keep things "clinically clean" so to speak. Newspaper is a poor excuse for a substrate IMHO & does very little to absorb anything. Throw it in the recycle bin where it belongs ;)Not big on any of the dirt like crap they sell either, just a breeding ground for bacteria, molds & mildews unless you are continually gutting the enclosure. Mark
reptiven
07-11-07, 01:32 PM
i think the best substrate is paper or newspaper easy and cheepest
gonesnakee
07-11-07, 04:11 PM
It has more purpose than to just cover the bottom of the tank/enclosure. It needs to be absorbant as well to be of any usefullness, otherwise might as well not use substrate at all. Paper or newspaper are useless IMHO. When it comes to your snakes don't cheap out on something that doesn't even really work just to save a few bucks. Mark
Reticsrule
07-11-07, 07:14 PM
Mark, you are correct in saying that newspaper doesn't absorb much, but it makes the waste very easy to remove which is my main concern. In my experience, snakes (mine at least) seem to avoid their feces/urates at all costs so I'm not worried about them getting covered in waste if it isn't absorbed.
Gerrior
07-12-07, 05:00 PM
I use Aspen with all my snakes, and repti bark if I want to raise humidity. I find that clap drinking bowls works really well to raise humidity also. Aspen doesn't retain the water like repti Bark would there for more stable humidity levels, but I'm sure with proper monitoring and situations rebti bark would be good also, just 3 times the price.
Mark, (this seems to be a common occurence lately) though I do agree with you that newspaper is not the most absorbent of substrates out there, keep in mind that many of us (I hope) well certainly myself, are aware of the non-absorbent factor and change their "unprinted newpaper stock" in my case much more often. I use it for all of my adults for two reasons; it can be cut or folded to size very easily which allows me to cover the ENTIRE floor space (unlike paper towel) and two, it's very easy to replace. I do use paper towels in all of my hatchling racks, again because of it's absorbency. Babies wet themselves much more often. That and a sheet of folded Bounty fits a Rubbermaid #2220 bin to a tee.........
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