PETA strikes again

[-okapi-]

As I walked out of one of my classes today I decided to grab on of my schools free newspapers to use as a substrate for my gecko's tank. Normally I dont read them, I just stuff them in my backpack. Today, however, I looked down at it and saw the headline: PETA: NKU is harming rats 'unnecessarily'. Well, anyone who has read my signature knows what I think of that group of crazys, so obviously I read the story. You can read it too by going to this link:

http://media.www.thenortherner.com/media/paper527/news/2006/02/15/News/Peta-Nku.Is.Harming.Rats-1613919.shtml?sourcedomain=www.thenortherner.com&MIIHost=media.collegepublisher.com

Basically the People Evily Terrorizing Accademics are saying that my school is evil because one of the professors here performs brain surgery on rodents. I myself have taken a tour of the science labs and i can tell you, those rats and mice are being well taken care of, then euthanized humanely. They keep them in better conditions than pet stores and use them for a good cause. I cant remember exactally what the professor said, but they have discovered several chemicals/protiens/hormones/somethings in the brains of these rats and mice that have lead to new views on the way the brain works, and experimental treatments for several brain disorders, including Alzheimers. I can see PETA getting angry over a couple kids cutting up animals for no reason, but what is going on at my school serves good purposes.

Your comments are welcome.

[peterm15]

imo.. your letting these tools get to you.... i dont give them the satisfaction of reading their articals... goin to their websites.. just dont let them get to you... if anything just get an artical published stating the TRUTH about what is happening in the school..

just dont let them bug you.

[-okapi-]

Yeah, I know. The real reason i HATE peta is they have millions of dollars which they say they use to help animals in need, yet there are shelters that are over budget because their state funding gets cut and peta turns their back on them. Then the shelters get a bad rep because they have to euthanize animals due to lack of money/space/workers. That really p*$^#@ me off.

[.derek.]

regardless of whether you disagree with peta you cant deny they do SOME good things. like shutting down sub par farms, chinese fur farms and in the very least they give animal cruelty public attention.i agree they do have many extreme views.and some of them are hypocrites (like the president).

[-okapi-]

"One good dead is not enough to redeam a man of a lifetime of wickedness"

Of coarse in this instance, it is a group of crazy people, not a man...

I dont like peta because they want to take our herps away, close down shelters, and blow stuff up. No offense derek, but liking them would be the same as liking Hitler just because he built schools in germany, which is one good thing vs all the horrible things he did.

PETA speaks about the animal cruelty issue only to enlarge their bank accounts, nothing more.

[.derek.]

"liking them would be the same as liking Hitler "

comparing some one who caused a war which killed over 50 million people to and animal activist group is ignorant and disrespectful. i would have a normal debate with you but first reciting some sort of bible passage or something like that and comparing millions of humans to animal activits isn't the kind of debate i care to get in to. sure they want to take your herps away with everyone else's.mabye you are a responsible keeper but i promise you there are thousands of very irresponsible keepers that very badly mistreat there animals.that you cant deny.

[djcoreyd]

If thats all they do to the rats they are lucky! I use a large mouse trap with nails attached to it on the rats that live under my front porch.LOL Tell those fur luv'n dictators to get bent........ maybe us herper's should start a petition against them!

My $.02 worth

Cheers!

[Ash19]

I don't like PETA myself. I've heard way too many horrible things about them. One person I know used to be a member...until she found out what kinds of things they do to *help* "poor, defenseless, mistreated" animals. For instance, setting loose dogs in show rings just so they won't be kept cooped up just to be stared at...then they run away and get hit by cars. Even though they were very well cared for. Also, I saw a program on tv about PeTA. I saw this man run up to a woman wearing a fur coat. He had a bat and he beat her down till she was unconcious. Then he took her coat and ran. How does he get it in his head that that is right? That that will make it better, that he is any better then some old lady wearing a fur coat?

[blazinreps]

http://www.petakillsanimals.com

[peterm15]

regardless of whether you disagree with peta you cant deny they do SOME good things. like shutting down sub par farms, chinese fur farms and in the very least they give animal cruelty public attention.i agree they do have many extreme views.and some of them are hypocrites (like the president).



good thing.. HA.. never... good things like burning down animal shelters, assulting ppl, passing out flyers with discriptive pics of dead animals to persons under 5..

nothing good has ever come from peta.. there responsible for the deaths of thousands of animals, and not feed animals, cats dogs horses rabbits and yes even herps, when someone can homestly justify the good in brutally putting down animals, ill listen.. till then.. kill the bastards. anyone that cruel to people as well as animals deservers to die.. at least imo

[-okapi-]

comparing some one who caused a war which killed over 50 million people to and animal activist group is ignorant and disrespectful.

Im ignorant and disrespectful because I dont like a group of people who:
scam people out of millions of dollars
blow up police cars
bail known criminals out of jail
kill animals
burn down buildings
attack and sometimes even kill people who have different views than themselves?

How is that different than a man who:
scammed whole countries out of billions of dollars
blew up anything that moved
instructed known war criminals
killed animals
burned down buildings
and attacked and killed people with different views than himself?
The more I think about it the more I see how alike the two are...

i would have a normal debate with you but first reciting some sort of bible passage or something like that and comparing millions of humans to animal activits isn't the kind of debate i care to get in to.

It is ignorant and disrespectful to insult other peoples religous beliefs, even if their religion is a line from Pirates of the Caribbean... And i never compared millions of humans to animal activists, so I have no clue what the heck you are talking about there... very confusing. Oh, and this is not a debate thread. I opened it so others could learn something, got get drawn into a debate.

Oh, if you are ever going to quote me again, QUOTE THE WHOLE SENTENCE, NOT JUST PART OF IT TO MAKE ME LOOK BAD, THAT IS VERY DISRESPECTFUL. The whole quote should of been: No offense derek, but liking them would be the same as liking Hitler just because he built schools in germany, which is one good thing vs all the horrible things he did.

[.derek.]

To be honest i was about to post a lengthy post explaining the major differences and many other good points.But I deleted it before i did. this is a reptile forum.if you want to have a discussion about it then have fun. i will not get into a argument of the holocast on a reptile board.

[-okapi-]

Firstly, I posted this thread so people could learn about the on goings at my school.
Second, this is the " General Discussion" section, and as this site says: Anything goes.. (If there isnt another forum for your thread) Look at the other posts in general discussion, half of them have very little or nothing to do with herps as well.
Third, I didnt start this thread as an argument, I presented facts in the form of a news artical, then a certian individual attempted to argue on their very first post, and every single one after that one, even though everyone else who posted was not arguing, just sharing information and commenting as I asked them to do.

PS- im still confused by this (the underlined part):i would have a normal debate with you but first reciting some sort of bible passage or something like that and comparing millions of humans to animal activits isn't the kind of debate i care to get in to.

[.derek.]

actually in my first post i agreed that they have extreme ideas and are hypocrites but they do SOME good things.and to clear up your confusion i meant comparing millions of human deaths to animal activits putting down animals in there shelters.dont know how to make that anymore clear.listing what peta does and then saying "how is that different from a man who" and then refering to hitler. or your comment like "The more I think about it the more I see how alike the two are..."so like i said if you want to compare a human genocide to animal activits thats your problem.and theres no point making more posts saying how you never compared them together. in my eyes the 2 qoutes from you i put in the post have done just that.and i never said i am not going to make posts about non herp related things because i have no problem with that i said i am not going to get in a discussion about the halocast on a reptile forum.i personaly dont mind peta regardless of some of there views so after i posted they do some good things you are the one who started an argument by saying liking peta would be the same as liking hitler for building schools or something to that effect.i was just posting my opnions on a discussion board and it was you who started comparing it to a genocide.and saying peta has never done anything good means that person has not fully researched peta.they have shut down countless fur farms and dog/cat markets for food in asia.that to me is good.not to sure what this argument is about.i dont dislike peta.thats my opinion.like i said in my original post they have some extreme views and are hipocrites but they do some good.i still belive that.