View Full Version : Some guy is cured from AIDS (unique)
JimmyDavid
11-13-05, 12:07 PM
Haven't you heard it? Some guy who had aids is healthy again without ever getting any treatment (not like such thing could help anyway). Seems like his own body fought the sickness on it's own...
Do you think it's for real or just some medical mess up? I mean, you learn in basic biology that our body can only resist FAST virus, not slow ones. A cold develops so fast (2 or 3 days) that your defenses notice it, but if it takes years (like Aids) it develops unnoticed, therefore creating tolerance to it's presence and never adpting till it's too late.
BOAS_N_PYTHONS
11-13-05, 05:58 PM
Hey Jimmy, I remember watching a show a year or 2 back about AIDS and cures and some that live with it for generations. Can' t remember the whole thing but it was something like this. There was a study of a group of women known as protestutes in Mozambique that were 3 generations carrying this disease. The study was from a university in the USA, where they were trying to centeralize the fact that 3 generations carried AIDS and even more that they posed a danger of passing on the disease to people they encountered yet showed all signs of somewhat perfect health let alone pass it on to 2 generations after. After doing this study and breaking down all the information and genetics and there immune system they plan on working with that information to possible create a new medicine or counter agents for people suffering from AIDS.
:)
Wow thats crazy,
that would be an amazing breakthrough!
Where could i find out some more info?
peace
ws
kitsuchan43
11-13-05, 07:36 PM
That is nuts O.o I can't say as I've ever heard of that ever happening
JimmyDavid
11-13-05, 09:54 PM
I'm quite sure this is gonna be all over the news soon, but to start with, i found this:
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/health_medical/article326894.ece
hbwright
11-15-05, 03:27 PM
Sorry I'm a couple days late for this thread but this is the field I work in. I do work for Jemsek Clinic in the Carolinas. This absolutely makes sense and I'm not sure what is unique about this guy. It is very common for somebody with HIV diagnosis to be undetectable, maybe not to this degree but all this means is that their viral load level is too low for the test to pick up. There are more sensitive test but no test is 100% sensitive. Here is a very quick page I came up with a single search so I don't have to go through all my literature.
http://www.labtestsonline.org/understanding/analytes/viral_load/test.html
This guy mentioned in the article is by no means "cured" and could still pass on HIV if he was unprotected.
JimmyDavid
11-15-05, 05:17 PM
No, i think you didn't get it right. HIV was in fact detectable in this guy, it's just not anymore. What is unique is that nobody ever crossed the line BACK. You may live for years without developing the disease, but after the virus sparks it's activity, nobody ever got clean from it.
hbwright
11-15-05, 06:15 PM
There was a patient at the office last week with a viral load of 4,000,000 and CD4 of 23 2 years ago. His viral load is now undetectable (meaning less then 200 on most standard HIV ELISA tests) with CD4 of 780 (normal non-HIV 1000).
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