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Collide
10-08-05, 11:30 AM
I set up a misting system a while ago, thought id share what I did.
This is not automated right now, as I wanted to test how it worked b4 investing in a water timer as they are somewhat expensive. Although a timer could be easily worked into this design.
It cost me approximately less then $30 to set this up, although the cost of making it might vary depending on if these items are in season or not, and or if you wanted to get super fine mister nosils.

NOTES:
- I had to buy a second washer to fit into the tap converter to get it to stop leaking
- Misting nosils work great and produce a fine mist but id still like to find better nosils in the future but ill prolly stick with these for the next year.
- Pressure is fairly high I have 8 cages hooked up now with no lack of pressure I am sure I could add more then double what I have onto it.
- Because the pressure is high and it dumps a lot of water a good drainage system is a must.
- in order to get the nosils to go into the cage as going though the mesh didn’t work the best, I hot glued a washer on top of the screen poked a hole in the mesh and placed the misting head in the washer.
- Everything was purchased at home depot or crappy tire.

Any way thought id share give people some alternative ideas.

galad
10-10-05, 10:00 AM
Thats awsome collide, simple cheap and easy to set up.

Great job! Will have to look into something like that when i build my new chameleon cages at my dads place.

Im moving from my moms to my dads, and i will obvioulsy be building a new cage. Im thinking about somthing about 7 and a half feet high, 5 feet long and 2 feet deep.
It will have a divider down the middle and hopefully i can set up a nice misting system like yours.


peace

ws

Brock
10-13-05, 04:53 PM
Collide, I have a sink in the laundry room, which is the room next to where I keep my herps, and I'd say that the sink is about 25-30 feet away from the cages. Does your system provide enough pressure that it would go 30 feet and still deliver enough pressure to mist 4 or 5 cages? Cause that looks pretty damn good.

-Brock

Collide
10-13-05, 07:23 PM
my laundry room is about 20 feet but the line is ran around doors ect making it longer i have no pressre issues at all mind you depends on your household presssure as well id guess, if anything i have too much pressure, wich ill have to releave with more cages lmao

The Gawd
10-13-05, 08:42 PM
I just wanted to add that you need an r/o (reverse osmosis) system to make this safe for them. You definatly want the chlorine, chlorimate, ect, out of the water, you cant just use it straight from the tap, its not good for them, or us really, another thing is that undechlorinated water leaves a lot more water spots than r/o water.....

Al

Collide
10-13-05, 09:22 PM
Iv used tap water for years with no issue

The Gawd
10-13-05, 10:55 PM
Possibly. but chlorine, chloromat, ect....is put in our water to kill bacteria n what not, a fish put in chlorinated water will show you the effects almost right away, bye diing. I never ever give any of my animals, or myself water out of the tap. You may not have any effects that you can see, but microscopically, you could see the effects. R/O water, distilled water or boiled water only for me and my animals only. Another thing is spray a piece of glass with tap water, then spray it with R/O water and you will see that their are a lot more water spots from tap water.

AL

Brock
10-13-05, 11:24 PM
Essay time for water everyone!!! :)

Al is right, Reverse Osmosis water is amazingly different than tap water. Did you know water actually does not conduct electricity? Millions of kids in school all over the world learn in elementary that water conducts electricity. False. It is the minerals and chemicals in water that conduct the electricity, that's how much is actually in water. I used to sell reverse osmosis systems and I know all the facts about it. There are pipes under your city in some places that are so thick with built up chemicals that only a pencil could fit through a large pipe a meter in diameter, and there are miles of this. Chlorine is amazingly bad, and that is just one of, on average, 50 conatminants or total dissolved solids in city tap water, if you live in a smaller city or get your water from a natural source such as a spring or well, the hard mineral count can go up to 700. The hard minerals in water cannot be absorbed in the body, think of iron, if you put iron in place of coffee beans in a coffee maker, the iron in the water would make you sick or kill you, if you ate a lot of spinnache, which is high in iron, and drank the water you cooked it in, it wouldn't harm you. I sold a system to a lady who was around when they first started putting flouride in the water, which in some cases was at the suggestion of dental hygenists in an opinion to get rid of excess flouride from the wars, something along those lines at least, and anyways they didn't know how much to put in and she was about 20 at the time, and her teeth corroded in her gums and fell out, and she has had to live with debilitating bone and organ troubles since then. And they still put flouride in the water, not at the same rate, but hey it all adds up. DDT was baned in the 60s and 70s because of its toxicity to everything it came into contact with, that's still in your water, in a river here in BC, the Fraser River, they did tests on fish and found 600 parts per million of DDT in some of the fish, and this test as conducted in 2002. I could go on for about three hours about water, and in some cases I actually had to to make the sale for the systems ;)

Point: tap water is bad stuff, if you can use reverse osmosis, do it. It's good for you and good for everything else.

It's amazing how bad water actually is. But it seems Collide's method only uses tap water, and I don't think a reverse osmosis system has enough pressure to do the job.

-Brock

Collide
10-14-05, 07:40 AM
I will agree that some of the things in tap water are bad, but outa all the cham keepers i know many of them use plain old tap water on CHAMS with no ill effects for many many years. I do not beleave a RO system is a nessessity unless the water in your area is horrid. and water striped of all minerals is just as scarry to me as water with extra crap although not bad at all its still not natural.

Brock
10-15-05, 04:34 PM
I'll have to agree that tap water doesn't seem to affect chameleons much, although if you keep any amphibians, reverse osmosis is the way to go.

I'll try out your misting system and see how it goes :) One more question though, Collide, do you use hot water from the tap and does it cool down to warm by the time it gets to misting? Or does the fact that it is an entire enclosed line make it so that the water is hottern than it would be from a spray bottle?

-Brock

Collide
10-15-05, 08:15 PM
i use hot but for long mistings i turn cold on as well i have the taps marked with white out to indicate wher to turn too, I have to do this because the water in my house gets extreemly hot when left on a long time too hot for the misters to disipate the heat. generally speaking though i use hot for the adverage misting i did test alot b4 hand so i know what i was dealing with.

ffollett
10-16-05, 08:43 AM
You can also get a 9 volt battery operated valve that works on a timer so it will mist on a schedule.